Jon/Night's Watch - Why is Mance so set on invading Castle Black? I wonder if Jon can unite the two sides to face a common enemy. Otherwise it's going to be pretty hard to stop a gigantic army of wildlings. Meanwhile shit's going down in that incest place though I have no idea what.
He's got to get south of the wall or they will all die. Which basically means going through Castle Black.
On April 16 2013 01:47 Sent. wrote: I'm very curious about Theon and his savior. I don't belive that his sister is involved here but on the other hand I have no idea who else could be intrested in saving the Greyjoy.
First I thought those Northern flayers held him, but then someone mentioned it could be a hard lesson from Theons father and it made a lot of sense.
But then again, there is the fact that that old Gods tree was left unharmed in Winterfell. Everything burned down but the holy area. Which they focus on in the intro movie too. This makes me again think it were norths who burned winterfell and took Theon. Not ironislanders, they don't care about the old gods, they have the drowned god. So it could be his sister rescuing him after all.
What's the time span between when the Crows were at the incest village and Jon Snow saw the white walker(?) take the baby in the woods and "now" when the Crows are back?
On April 16 2013 02:08 Gosi wrote: What's the time span between when the Crows were at the incest village and Jon Snow saw the white walker(?) take the baby in the woods and "now" when the Crows are back?
On April 15 2013 18:58 Erasme wrote: They paid them, simply they make believe Podrick that he was very good ...
You are smart It would be so clever, and so Tyrion-like to do this. Although Tyrion have memories of being lied to regarding about such thing, considering what Jamie did too Tyrion on his first sexnight (the setup in the woods of the girl who ran away from rape).
On April 15 2013 18:58 Erasme wrote: They paid them, simply they make believe Podrick that he was very good ...
You are smart It would be so clever, and so Tyrion-like to do this. Although Tyrion have memories of being lied to regarding about such thing, considering what Jamie did too Tyrion on his first sexnight (the setup in the woods of the girl who ran away from rape).
I think Tyrion was just testing how loyal Podrick was. It would have been easy to "steal" gold as whores do take gold usually always.
Its seems a bit strange from a character development standpoint that jamie lanister, the greatest swordsman in the 7 kingdoms is currently 0/2 in duels actually shown on screen.
On April 15 2013 18:58 Erasme wrote: They paid them, simply they make believe Podrick that he was very good ...
You are smart It would be so clever, and so Tyrion-like to do this. Although Tyrion have memories of being lied to regarding about such thing, considering what Jamie did too Tyrion on his first sexnight (the setup in the woods of the girl who ran away from rape).
I think Tyrion was just testing how loyal Podrick was. It would have been easy to "steal" gold as whores do take gold usually always.
Sounds to me like you guys are way overinterpreting stuff here lol. It was just comic relief, not a serious story element.
On April 16 2013 02:43 turdburgler wrote: Its seems a bit strange from a character development standpoint that jamie lanister, the greatest swordsman in the 7 kingdoms is currently 0/2 in duels actually shown on screen.
he was never the greatest. he's one of the greatest, so your point still stands.
however, from everything I've seen, selmy; barristan the bold, is the greatest swordsman and overall badass in all of westeros.
On April 16 2013 02:43 turdburgler wrote: Its seems a bit strange from a character development standpoint that jamie lanister, the greatest swordsman in the 7 kingdoms is currently 0/2 in duels actually shown on screen.
I believe he said he's been in captivity for a year, his skills have lessened, now he is worn down, and unpracticed. I don't expect him to have the upper hand of any fight anymore and will continue to lose those duels.
On April 16 2013 02:50 TheFish7 wrote: The greatest "Swordsman" in Westeros is not Jaime, it is Podrick
There is no way Podrick is the greatest at "swordsmanship". It requires knowledge and experience; it's not enough just to have a big sword (though it certainly doesn't hurt ). Cmon, it's obviously Tyrion's manipulation to make the poor chap feel like a million gold dragons.
I don't see how Jaime can fight anymore. He holds his sword with both hands, AND he lost his dominant hand. So he has to 1) get over the loss of his hand, 2) get back in shape after being chained for a year, 3) learn to use his left hand, and 4) learn a new weapon, like Arya's rapier. With Joffrey already setting the precedent for Kingslayers no longer serving for life, and Tywin still at a loss for an heir, Jaime returning to his house would make sense.
And yeah if that's where the Hound killed Mycah...that makes sense.
That scene he only has a sword - if we assume that most knights fight with a shield as well frequently, he can definitely fight one-handed. Plus he mentions lances when challenging Rob after his capture, and that's one-handed on horseback.
The problem is still switching hands, which is more than just the hand: it's entire stance, footwork, balance... a massive challenge.
On April 16 2013 02:43 turdburgler wrote: Its seems a bit strange from a character development standpoint that jamie lanister, the greatest swordsman in the 7 kingdoms is currently 0/2 in duels actually shown on screen.
I believe he said he's been in captivity for a year, his skills have lessened, now he is worn down, and unpracticed. I don't expect him to have the upper hand of any fight anymore and will continue to lose those duels.
Being locked up with no exercise/practice and probably vastly undernourished, as well as whatever lasting injuries from being beaten, isn't good for your ability to fight, especially against an opponent like Brienne that relies on strength/endurance.
On April 16 2013 02:43 turdburgler wrote: Its seems a bit strange from a character development standpoint that jamie lanister, the greatest swordsman in the 7 kingdoms is currently 0/2 in duels actually shown on screen.
I believe he said he's been in captivity for a year, his skills have lessened, now he is worn down, and unpracticed. I don't expect him to have the upper hand of any fight anymore and will continue to lose those duels.
On April 16 2013 02:50 TheFish7 wrote: The greatest "Swordsman" in Westeros is not Jaime, it is Podrick
There is no way Podrick is the greatest at "swordsmanship". It requires knowledge and experience; it's not enough just to have a big sword (though it certainly doesn't hurt ). Cmon, it's obviously Tyrion's manipulation to make the poor chap feel like a million gold dragons.
Actually I am suspecting the opposite. Would Tyrion really push it to the point of pretending to ask for details? The girls, more likely, refused the money to mess with Tyrion. He is a common visitor, he knows every whore there personally, tips well, and, as mentioned before in the series, he is quite good. Making Tyrion think his squire, who was until recently a "newbie", made such a good impression on the girls would surely put Tyrion into overdrive. They'll get their money back.
On April 16 2013 02:43 turdburgler wrote: Its seems a bit strange from a character development standpoint that jamie lanister, the greatest swordsman in the 7 kingdoms is currently 0/2 in duels actually shown on screen.
he's not the best?
one of the best I suppose. Also I assume you're talking about 0/2 as in the fight with Ned Stark and then Brienne, though to be fair his hands were bound the second time. Not like it's really a fair fight when you've been a starved and physically stressed prisoner. Also he didn't lose against Ned, their fight got cut short.
I think Robb is fucked. He seems to be pissing off more people than he's gonna be able to handle.
I also forgot how Theon got into that situation of his. I feel completely lost in that part of the story arc and I should probably go rewatch season 2. I remember Bran and Rickon escape...and then I don't remember exactly. Theon gets betrayed?
On April 16 2013 02:43 turdburgler wrote: Its seems a bit strange from a character development standpoint that jamie lanister, the greatest swordsman in the 7 kingdoms is currently 0/2 in duels actually shown on screen.
he's not the best?
one of the best I suppose. Also I assume you're talking about 0/2 as in the fight with Ned Stark and then Brienne, though to be fair his hands were bound the second time. Not like it's really a fair fight when you've been a starved and physically stressed prisoner. Also he didn't lose against Ned, their fight got cut short.
I think Robb is fucked. He seems to be pissing off more people than he's gonna be able to handle.
I also forgot how Theon got into that situation of his. I feel completely lost in that part of the story arc and I should probably go rewatch season 2. I remember Bran and Rickon escape...and then I don't remember exactly. Theon gets betrayed?
That confusion is deliberate on the part of the shows creators methinks; they want audiences to be as bewildered as Theon as he tried to figure out what the hell is going on. All we know from the show is that the II'ers hit Theon over the head, and then Theon was in a torture chamber. There are little clues that point to what actually happened, but nothing all that substantive as of yet.
Yea suffice to say that the viewer does not know who Theon's captors are or where he is. Anyone who knows more is either theorycrafting based on next to no evidence or is bringing in spoilers from the books.
On April 15 2013 18:58 Erasme wrote: They paid them, simply they make believe Podrick that he was very good ...
You are smart It would be so clever, and so Tyrion-like to do this. Although Tyrion have memories of being lied to regarding about such thing, considering what Jamie did too Tyrion on his first sexnight (the setup in the woods of the girl who ran away from rape).
I think Tyrion was just testing how loyal Podrick was. It would have been easy to "steal" gold as whores do take gold usually always.
Maybe Podrick didn't actually sleep with them as he was too uncomfortable, then felt guilty so he took the gold back to Tyrion and lied about it.
EPT
It would be so clever, and so Tyrion-like to do this. Although Tyrion have memories of being lied to regarding about such thing, considering what Jamie did too Tyrion on his first sexnight (the setup in the woods of the girl who ran away from rape). 
). Cmon, it's obviously Tyrion's manipulation to make the poor chap feel like a million gold dragons.
