On April 18 2011 14:39 bjwithbraces wrote: Do the white walkers play a bigger role later on? I've never read the books but thought they were personally the best part of the episode. Granted I know there's a lot of back story about the intertwining of the characters but I wanted to see more. Seemed like it'd be a bigger deal about this mysterious, brutal people that live outside "the wall" and that's what the main village or whatever are defending against. Or do the books focus more on the workings of this kingdom and less on them[the white walkers]?
A LOT later on. Like, next three books hopefully. It'll build up until then.
They do but not a *major* role yet in the books that have been written so far. The wildlings or as they call themselves "free folk" from The North are awesome though. But that is a much later story arc that does coincide with The Others very well. The books focus on the politics and the drama at The Wall but there is so much of it to get through.
Question? Rickon didn't even show up in the episode amirite?
It is unfortunate that HBO is so liberal on nudity since I really loved the books and will watch the show but unfortunately won't be talking about it with many people because of it.
On April 18 2011 14:50 Gofarman wrote: Question? Rickon didn't even show up in the episode amirite?
It is unfortunate that HBO is so liberal on nudity since I really loved the books and will watch the show but unfortunately won't be talking about it with many people because of it.
Rickon didnt really show up in the book either, or the segment of the book the pilot is based upon, except for mentions of him naming his direwolf and iirc he was at the kings feast?
On April 18 2011 14:50 Gofarman wrote: Question? Rickon didn't even show up in the episode amirite?
It is unfortunate that HBO is so liberal on nudity since I really loved the books and will watch the show but unfortunately won't be talking about it with many people because of it.
He was there, just never formally introduced as a character. Not a big deal considering he's relatively useless as a character for a long while.
Also, what did people expect in regards to nudity and such for this series? The books are full of it, you don't make a fuss about it simply because it's written. Well, visually it's going to be there, it's part of the setting and characters. So far it hasn't been overdone, the time when it's an entire episode solely focused on characters going wild with sex and nudity than I'll say 'hey wait a minute..'.
IMO they did a good job, other than some minor changes to make it flow faster.
a few things i didnt like though - the wedding consummation, like some1 else mentioned, made drogo look a lot more savage than in the book.
in the opening scene, the others are not how i pictured them, or else the one present was actually a wight, which would make more sense. It looked like the wight of some wildling woman, but then it was also using a sword..donno what to think lol. they changed the person who got executed too..imo the old guy, frozen with fear, saying not a word would have made for a better scene, but i guess this way it allowed for more explanation about the white walkers.
at the feast @ winterfell, the king is groping some slut the entire time, where in the book he sits at the high table with the starks.
Sansa looks a lot older than joffrey lol. in fact all the kids look older than they are in the books (which is totally fine), except joffrey.
And..the actor portraying illyrio is waaaaay thinner than he should be lol. IMO his size is really important because it signifies his vast wealth, which isnt too apparent so far. Hes portrayed more as some noble who helped out the targaryeons due to his own kindless, rather than to further his personal gain, which is how it sounds in the books.
i loved pretty much everything else though all the starks, targaryeons and tyrion were especially awesome
i also found it funny that HBO went pretty much all out with the female nudity, but all the male actors were fully clothed in comparison. Not that im complaining, but it looked a bit wierd.
not read the books, but had to give the show a shot since i loved band of brothers and fantasy in general. the casting is really great and the acting for the most part is good. however the music felt terrible and in my opinion ruins the entire thing, (especially the excessive drums.)
being a film geek i though some of the camera shots were good overall, but alot of it seems forced with the more intimate conversations and such, (im guessing its because its a tv-show, and playing to that audience,) but had that been improved and a better score swapped, this has potential.
best charachters imo are the dwarf guy, the blond girl, and sean bean.
On April 18 2011 16:28 WniO wrote: however the music felt terrible
I agree :/ I loved the pilot other than the music. I mean.. it was alright, but it definitely could have been better. Mostly the opening credits.. awesome, and the music had great potential, but it didn't have a good climax imo. Idk, maybe it'll grow on me.
Can't wait for next Sunday though! Why can't the days be Sun-Sun-Sun-Sun-Sun-Sun instead of Sun-Mon-Tues-Wed-Thurs-Fri-Sat ??
On April 18 2011 16:39 Potatisodlaren wrote: Was anyone else mightily impressed by the intro? I can't imagine anything that would be better, it's so perfect.
Plotwise the first episode wasn't very interesting (except for the intro, which I'd already seen). Otherwise it felt like the writers though "hey this scene isn't interesting...how bout we take her clothes off!" but i guess HBO is like that lol
It annoys me that they chose to cast such an ugly bitch to be Eddard Starks wife. I would've figured a powerful man like him would be able to land someone better looking than her.
On April 18 2011 18:03 SolHeiM wrote: It annoys me that they chose to cast such an ugly bitch to be Eddard Starks wife. I would've figured a powerful man like him would be able to land someone better looking than her.
You're rather classy.
I liked the episode, I knew things would be slightly different because I remember seeing GRRM saying he was going to be changing a couple things however some changes are just odd. Like the conversation he has with Cat and eventually the Maester in their room about taking up Robert's offer to become the Hand. + Show Spoiler +
In the book, Cat is pushing him about it. She thinks he should do it and even more so after they get the letter from Lysa. Ned mentions how his father and brother went to King's Landing at the request of a King and never returned. In the show it was the opposite. Catelyn didn't want him to go, she said she'd tell Robert to leave her husband alone and she's the one to mention Ned's father.
In the grand scheme it doesn't matter but I always find it odd why small things like that are changed.
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all the starks, targaryeons and tyrion were especially awesome
gotta read e-books
