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On April 18 2011 21:59 Turenne wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2011 21:54 KwarK wrote:On April 18 2011 18:14 maartendq wrote:On April 18 2011 11:00 happyness wrote:On April 18 2011 10:50 dacthehork wrote: yeah I got no idea why HBO wants people to watch it on HBO go or their Channel?
wtf I sense sarcasm? It seems to me, though, that most people who are looking forward to GoT is poor college-age students who can't afford HBO. Makes me wonder how long the show will last. Knowing HBO, they'll quit after the second season. They did this with Rome and Carnivale. The latter was even planned to have six episodes to conclude the complete story. OT: great pilot. Not nearly as much nudity as in the book. I can imagine that everything might be a bit confusing to people who haven't read or aren't reading the books. Rome ended because they ran out of history, GoT has the advantage of being fiction. No, it was too expensive. They had five or so series planned orginally.
Well he's partly true. The second season wasn't meant to cover all the history that it did because there was no 3rd season planned. So in effect it ended because it was too expensive and ran out of history
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Day[9] day9tv: I strongly recommended "Game of Thrones" to my mother. And then I saw the episode. Fuck. Hahaha, yep.
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Just watched it again on a stream. Thoughts.
Everything is really well set up for the meaty part of the book where they start to enter into some moral dilemmas and Machiavellian shenanigans. Thats really all the pilot was and all the pilot was ever going to be, in retrospect I came into the series expecting everything to start in the thick of things. Last night I was a little disappointed with how slow it was and how the characters themselves weren't as flushed out as I would have liked, but then again I've had 2.5 books to flush the characters out for me, whereas the TV viewing audience are just meeting the characters, it was short-sighted of me to expect Jon to act like he does in SoS, and in fact thats why the whole series is worth watching because the characters change and develop over time. Seeing Jon act completely differently than how I've come to know him isn't a fault of the TV series, it just goes to show the depth and complexity that the characters are written with.
The direction and ambiance of the show was as I expected incredible, HBO seldom disappoints and they came through in spades. Costumes, lighting, settings, casting, all done extremely well, keeping not only faithful to the source material, but adding in it's own flair. My mom (who hasn't read the series) said "it's awfully dark and grim" and I thought "perfect, it's a dark and grim series" it means HBO captured the feeling of the books expertly in their portrayal of the world, and I'm really excited to see the remainder of the book and hopefully the rest of the series if ratings permit.
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On April 18 2011 22:10 Cedstick wrote:Show nested quote +Day[9] day9tv: I strongly recommended "Game of Thrones" to my mother. And then I saw the episode. Fuck. Hahaha, yep. lol whats the problem ? as if its the first time your mother sees someone naked on tv .. haha as soon as its out in german Ill put on my mothers mediastreamer :D
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On April 18 2011 22:14 smileyyy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2011 22:10 Cedstick wrote:Day[9] day9tv: I strongly recommended "Game of Thrones" to my mother. And then I saw the episode. Fuck. Hahaha, yep. lol whats the problem ? as if its the first time your mother sees someone naked on tv .. haha as soon as its out in german Ill put on my mothers mediastreamer :D
Stop lying, everyone's parents are virgins.
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Just watched it - suffice to say I am appalled by the smut and immoral out of wedlock love-making contained within. I was planning on showing the programme to my little niece - she is particularly interested in beheadings and vast amounts of blood spilling out of people's carcasses - but I will not have her mind warped by nudity.
I'm off now, to say ten holy marys, and pray for the damned souls of the creators of this blasphemous show.
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On April 18 2011 22:24 Turenne wrote: Just watched it - suffice to say I am appalled by the smut and immoral out of wedlock love-making contained within. I was planning on showing the programme to my little niece - she is particularly interested in beheadings and vast amounts of blood spilling out of people's carcasses - but I will not have her mind warped by nudity.
I'm off now, to say ten holy marys, and pray for the damned souls of the creators of this blasphemous show.
But daenerys & drogo waited till they were wed!
I thought the first show was good. I was hoping the tournament was in this episode :D KING OF FLOWERS SO HANDSOME
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On April 18 2011 22:24 Turenne wrote: Just watched it - suffice to say I am appalled by the smut and immoral out of wedlock love-making contained within. I was planning on showing the programme to my little niece - she is particularly interested in beheadings and vast amounts of blood spilling out of people's carcasses - but I will not have her mind warped by nudity.
I'm off now, to say ten holy marys, and pray for the damned souls of the creators of this blasphemous show.
Hey, you just made my sarcasm-meter explode ಠ_ಠ
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On April 18 2011 22:05 Cedstick wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2011 21:53 Turenne wrote:On April 18 2011 20:10 Stroggoz wrote: whats with everyone complaining about nudity? This is HBO, its fairly standard and they have shown much more in their previous shows. dicks galore in OZ
1st episode was great. However, the episode had too much plot and not enough character development. In my opinion they should've taken it slower and built up the characters a bit more. i havnt read the books though and im sure characters will get deeper throughout the season. Breasts and sex are immoral apparently. It's not that there was nudity, it's how it was done. As I said in an earlier post, it felt like in a lot of scenes they were pandering to me as if I was a pervert. It seems like this because in 99% of nudity shown in TV the camera deliberately avoids it as much as possible, its mostly just corner of the frame flashes for less than a second. This is what you are used to.
In comparison game of thrones mostly presents the nudity as is. Its not the focus of the camera in most cases, but its certainly way more prominent than you are used to. and theres certainly still good deal of tv censorship anyway, no vaginas or penises were shown. The only case where it was the actually focus in a "pervert" sort of way was dany's breast, but obviously this was for dramatic effect.
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my complaint was that they have a limited amount of time to condense the opening of the book into about one hour. It's a minor gripe but things like Dany getting naked, striking a pose for the camera, and then finally getting into scalding hot water likely missed the mark for every single viewer because of the attention to the titties. Not only did it come off really cheesy to me but it's time I think could have been way better allocated elsewhere. Like introducing Theon Greyjoy or doing the opening of the book more justice.
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On April 18 2011 22:58 floor exercise wrote: my complaint was that they have a limited amount of time to condense the opening of the book into about one hour. It's a minor gripe but things like Dany getting naked, striking a pose for the camera, and then finally getting into scalding hot water likely missed the mark for every single viewer because of the attention to the titties. Not only did it come off really cheesy to me but it's time I think could have been way better allocated elsewhere. Like introducing Theon Greyjoy or doing the opening of the book more justice. This just in, fitting a 600page book in a few hours is pretty damn hard.
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I heard that each season will cover an entire novel's worth of plot (though from wiki), can anyone clarify this? Each novel seems to have so much, and having 1 novel = 1 season seems like things will be left out.
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On April 18 2011 22:09 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2011 21:59 Turenne wrote:On April 18 2011 21:54 KwarK wrote:On April 18 2011 18:14 maartendq wrote:On April 18 2011 11:00 happyness wrote:On April 18 2011 10:50 dacthehork wrote: yeah I got no idea why HBO wants people to watch it on HBO go or their Channel?
wtf I sense sarcasm? It seems to me, though, that most people who are looking forward to GoT is poor college-age students who can't afford HBO. Makes me wonder how long the show will last. Knowing HBO, they'll quit after the second season. They did this with Rome and Carnivale. The latter was even planned to have six episodes to conclude the complete story. OT: great pilot. Not nearly as much nudity as in the book. I can imagine that everything might be a bit confusing to people who haven't read or aren't reading the books. Rome ended because they ran out of history, GoT has the advantage of being fiction. No, it was too expensive. They had five or so series planned orginally. Well he's partly true. The second season wasn't meant to cover all the history that it did because there was no 3rd season planned. So in effect it ended because it was too expensive and ran out of history  Rome: HBO Chairman Chris Albrecht announced in a July 2006 news conference that season two of Rome would be its last, citing the fact that the series (called "notoriously expensive" by Broadcasting & Cable) had been developed under a two-year contract with the BBC that would have been difficult for the BBC to extend due to the series' cost. Of the storyline, co-creator Heller said:
“ I discovered halfway through writing the second season the show was going to end. The second was going to end with the death of Brutus. Third and fourth season would be set in Egypt. Fifth was going to be the rise of the messiah in Palestine. But because we got the heads-up that the second season would be it, I telescoped the third and fourth season into the second one, which accounts for the blazing speed we go through history near the end. There's certainly more than enough history to go around.
Carnivale: At the time, HBO made their commitments for only one year at a time, a third season would have meant opening up a new two-season book in Daniel Knauf's six-year plan, including the introduction of new storylines for current and new characters, and further clarification and elaboration on the show's mythology. Fans assumed that the show would be renewed, but an internet leak announced in early May 2005 that the series would not be returning for a third season. HBO confirmed that the show had been cancelled on May 11, 2005. HBO's president Chris Albrecht stated that the network would have considered otherwise if the producers had been willing to lower the price of an episode to US$2 million; but the running costs for the sizable cast, the all-on-location shooting and the number of episodes per season were too enormous for them.
Game of Thrones I can only pray to all deities known to me HBO won't cancel this series (assuming the quality of the serie stays very good). Otherwise I loose a lot of faith in HBO and their ability to deal with big projects. The already broke my heart with the cancelation of Carnivale (and to some extend Rome but I never REALLY got into the flow of that show) and I don't know if I can handle that pain again
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On April 18 2011 23:09 peeeky wrote: I heard that each season will cover an entire novel's worth of plot (though from wiki), can anyone clarify this? Each novel seems to have so much, and having 1 novel = 1 season seems like things will be left out. As it is they are indeed planning on making 1 season per novel but it could be the first season is a shorst season to test the water so to speak. It also is a realatively short book in the serie. It could be (and I hope they do) the second season will be a full season of 22 episodes. Or they will atleast split up the longer books into 2 half seasons (the first airing in the spring, the second in the autumn) each 10 episodes.
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I only have 1 question for the first episode: Who is that guy doing in the tower? His own sister? And why is that so bad if so?
I'm in love with the serie =).
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On April 18 2011 23:35 Qzy wrote: I only have 1 question for the first episode: Who is that guy doing in the tower? His own sister? And why is that so bad if so?
I'm in love with the serie =).
Yes he was fucking his sister, and seeing as she's married to the king, they don't really want people to know. And even if she weren't, incest is still very taboo.
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On April 18 2011 23:37 Robstickle wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2011 23:35 Qzy wrote: I only have 1 question for the first episode: Who is that guy doing in the tower? His own sister? And why is that so bad if so?
I'm in love with the serie =). Yes he was fucking his sister, and seeing as she's married to the king, they don't really want people to know. And even if she weren't, incest is still very taboo.
Thanks! Looking forward to next weeks episode.
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The first episode was pretty good, and I think the show will do the series justice. My only gripe, if you can even call it that, is there were a ton of gratuitous tit scenes. I mean I enjoy a nice set of knockers like any other guy but, I believe I counted 5-6 scenes varying from 3-5 minutes each, where they were just boobies everywhere. I remember the book being somewhat sexual in nature but I thought they over did it, but it’s HBO so yeah. But other than that it was great since characters seemed to fit fairly well except I do not like the actor playing Jamie, he seems like he is forcing his part. Also Tyron will be an interesting character to watch develop because in my eyes when I read the book I pictured him a bit heartier and thicker at the shoulders.
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On April 18 2011 23:37 Robstickle wrote: Yes he was fucking his sister, and seeing as she's married to the king, they don't really want people to know. And even if she weren't, incest is still very taboo. Well, somewhat taboo. The former royal family in this setting openly engaged in incest, and didn't give a damn what anyone else thought. Of course, this may have contributed to them being brutally overthrown.
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Also I didn't get the scene with the girl going into the hot water. Is she the sister to that white hair-guy that wants to be king? Is the white haired guy somewhat related to the current king? Why did she go into boiling hot water - she's nuts isn't it?
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