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Sandtrout
243 Posts
Arya doesn't know that all the bastards of Robert are supposed to be black haired (she doesn't even know that they are searching for Robert's bastards or that Gendry is one of them), so it was simply a spontaneous idea to tell them the one dead kid with Gendry's helmet lying next to him would be Gendry. And we don't know if the Lannisters believe her (or if they know about the hair), so why assume the producers made a mistake? | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17665 Posts
 He wanted it so badly and is such an awesome guy IRL: Conan Stevens, Australian actor measuring 214cm, member of MENSA, professional grappler, he wanted to play The Mountain since 2007 and got the role. He even went to casting for Drogo just so they notice and remember him. Unfortunately, due to his involvement in The Hobbit (as orc Azog) and Spartacus he couldn't make it for the filming of season 2. The Mountain will now be played by Ian Whyte, measuring 216cm, who played the White Walker in S02E01. | ||
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
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Shockk
Germany2269 Posts
On April 16 2012 23:52 Steveling wrote: Ok,so WHY DID THEY MAKE RENLY AND LORAS GAY?wtf They didn't "make" them gay. They just chose to explicitely show what was only hinted at in the books (though GRRM himself confirmed that they were, indeed, gay). | ||
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
On April 16 2012 23:54 Shockk wrote: They didn't "make" them gay. They just chose to explicitely show what was only hinted at in the books (though GRRM himself confirmed that they were, indeed, gay). It's pretty clear in the book that they are gay, but still it's kinda boring that HBO feel the need to put one fucking sex scene each episode for no fucking reason. | ||
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Shockk
Germany2269 Posts
On April 16 2012 23:57 WhiteDog wrote: It's pretty clear in the book that they are gay, but still it's kinda boring that HBO feel the need to put one fucking sex scene each episode for no fucking reason. I think the almost-sex scene with Loras and Renly was an excellent build-up for his conversation with Margaery later on - showing that their arrangement is a special one, motivated primarily by power and strategy, but not without affection. It also did a good job at establishing Margaery as a possible strong "female lead" character considering how smooth she handled the situation. | ||
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Gladiator6
Sweden7024 Posts
I'm so curious if we will find out more about then, perhaps something related to the old gods? | ||
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
Don't post here though, just pm me. | ||
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Ebzy
United Kingdom153 Posts
On April 17 2012 00:08 Steveling wrote: If you could pm me with a quote from the books that says that they had that kind of relationship I would appreciate it. Don't post here though, just pm me. This question has come up a few times, I'll link what I was shown in your Pm | ||
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RoMGraViTy
United States314 Posts
On April 17 2012 00:01 Shockk wrote: I think the almost-sex scene with Loras and Renly was an excellent build-up for his conversation with Margaery later on - showing that their arrangement is a special one, motivated primarily by power and strategy, but not without affection. It also did a good job at establishing Margaery as a possible strong "female lead" character considering how smooth she handled the situation. Completely agree with this. The scene fit in extremely well. Also, being gay i have no problem with scenes like that. The rest of you can get over it once and a while.  | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On April 17 2012 00:11 RoMGraViTy wrote: Completely agree with this. The scene fit in extremely well. Also, being gay i have no problem with scenes like that. The rest of you can get over it once and a while. Did you feel as sorry for Renly as I did? :D (not gay, but I can imagine his problems) | ||
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Aelfric
Turkey1496 Posts
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
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ELA
Denmark4608 Posts
Loved every moment of this one - It is damned that we all know that there will be only 10 episodes! | ||
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Aelfric
Turkey1496 Posts
On April 17 2012 00:32 daemir wrote: Then again if their orders were to capture the bastards and bring them in, they'd think twice about disobeying it. Heads seem to roll for the slightest reasons there and I don't think excuses like "we were forced to kill them in battle" fly when it was 1 recruiter and a band of thieves, kids and rapers vs well armed and armored unit. I thought the orders were to kill the bastard not to bring him in. If that's the case i guess i missed something. | ||
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Sandtrout
243 Posts
On April 17 2012 00:37 Aelfric wrote: I thought the orders were to kill the bastard not to bring him in. If that's the case i guess i missed something. The Goldcloaks were ordered to find him, that's what we saw as far as I know. But it's the Lannisters who found them, we don't really know what their orders are. Since they killed the boy without hesitation I don't think they were specifically ordered to get him alive but with the lie Arya told, I think they won't kill the rest but keep them alive for further questioning in case they discover the lie (if they are all dead they couldn't determine possibility of Gendry running away in time). | ||
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shizna
United Kingdom803 Posts
if joffrey was aware of the significance of baratheon black-haired bastards, then joffrey would know almost for certain that his father was in fact jaime... and therefore he would not have a claim to the throne. but he does not know, and still believes he's robert's son. it's not like cersei has told the entire city watch that joffrey is a result of incest, therefore they should be on the lookout for black hair. | ||
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Aelfric
Turkey1496 Posts
On April 17 2012 00:43 Sandtrout wrote: The Goldcloaks were ordered to find him, that's what we saw as far as I know. But it's the Lannisters who found them, we don't really know what their orders are. Since they killed the boy without hesitation I don't think they were specifically ordered to get him alive but with the lie Arya told, I think they won't kill the rest but keep them alive for further questioning in case they discover the lie (if they are all dead they couldn't determine possibility of Gendry running away in time). That kinda makes sense, he may not be in that group. They should consider the possibility of him ran away. But again, killing the guy with the arrow doesn't really make sense too. Just because he is a bit harder to carry shouldn't make them give exceptions to the orders. You can't know who'll have the valuable information. | ||
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shizna
United Kingdom803 Posts
On April 17 2012 00:43 Sandtrout wrote: The Goldcloaks were ordered to find him, that's what we saw as far as I know. But it's the Lannisters who found them, we don't really know what their orders are. Since they killed the boy without hesitation I don't think they were specifically ordered to get him alive but with the lie Arya told, I think they won't kill the rest but keep them alive for further questioning in case they discover the lie (if they are all dead they couldn't determine possibility of Gendry running away in time). no, the tv show merged the amory lorch and goldcloak parts from the book. i believe amory said something like "we heard from two of ours that you are withholding a bastard". indicating that amory ran into the two goldcloaks that yoren sent packing... the bastard was to be killed like that baby in the brothel, it was under orders from joffrey and he didn't have any use for gendry - so why would he 'capture' ? i believe joffrey just said "kill those bastards" and slynt and the gold cloaks just went after them all. they tortured gendry's master who told them he was with nights watch, on kings road going to the wall with a bulls helmet. User was warned for this post | ||
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RoMGraViTy
United States314 Posts
On April 17 2012 00:18 Redox wrote: Did you feel as sorry for Renly as I did? :D (not gay, but I can imagine his problems) Yes i did. | ||
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