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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
August 26 2017 18:16 GMT
#33721
Lots of possibilities, i just hope it is really good with some nice dialogue.
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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
August 26 2017 18:34 GMT
#33722
imagine its tyrion shanking dany
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Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9246 Posts
August 26 2017 19:05 GMT
#33723
On August 27 2017 03:07 BlackCompany wrote:
So how do you think will this season end?
Littlefinger dieing? Arya/Sansa dieing?
The wall falling, Dany and Jon getting together, Jaime killing Cersei?

I feel like there are many good options for a worthy season finale


Littlefinger dead, probably killed by Arya with Sansa watching
The Wall won't fall in this season
Euron somehow interrupts the meeting in King's Landing but ultimately doesn't change anything
Cersei somehow catches Dany, has her chained and locked in the deepest cell of the Red Keep, comes with the Mountain/Qyburn to torture her, but then Dany says "dracarys" and Cersei spontaneously combusts /s
Last scene shows the Night's King riding his Sindragosa
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
August 26 2017 19:25 GMT
#33724
On August 27 2017 02:13 Piledriver wrote:
Honestly, the biggest reason why this entire White walker storyline is not particularly interesting is because we don't understand the Night Kings motivations, and the show runners have effectively reduced the wights to brainless zombies.


The wights we see in S1EP1 actually show a bit of personality and even allow one of the castle black rangers to escape on foot after throwing a severed head as a warning towards him. The sequence portrays the wights as being
both stealthy/crafty, as well as having a certain degree of sentience and decision making rather than being just dumb reanimated corpses.



I was actually expecting a lot more out of the wights and expected them to be closer to the Undead from warcraft, or Orcs from LotR, wherein they have an underlying set of motivations and have a reason for their actions. The current portrayal of wights and white walkers seems far too one-dimensional.

Those were ww not wights
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
August 26 2017 19:26 GMT
#33725
On August 27 2017 04:05 Sent. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2017 03:07 BlackCompany wrote:
So how do you think will this season end?
Littlefinger dieing? Arya/Sansa dieing?
The wall falling, Dany and Jon getting together, Jaime killing Cersei?

I feel like there are many good options for a worthy season finale


Littlefinger dead, probably killed by Arya with Sansa watching
The Wall won't fall in this season
Euron somehow interrupts the meeting in King's Landing but ultimately doesn't change anything
Cersei somehow catches Dany, has her chained and locked in the deepest cell of the Red Keep, comes with the Mountain/Qyburn to torture her, but then Dany says "dracarys" and Cersei spontaneously combusts /s
Last scene shows the Night's King riding his Sindragosa

Last scene HAS to be wall falling
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Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9246 Posts
August 26 2017 19:36 GMT
#33726
I think destroying the Wall deserves over 50% of an episode so I expect it to happen in the first or second episode of the last season
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Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9407 Posts
August 26 2017 21:35 GMT
#33727
On August 27 2017 04:36 Sent. wrote:
I think destroying the Wall deserves over 50% of an episode so I expect it to happen in the first or second episode of the last season


There won't be anything to it. Dragon attacks the wall w/ fire and it is destroyed. It will be a a 3-5 minute scene.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
August 26 2017 23:38 GMT
#33728
On August 27 2017 06:35 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2017 04:36 Sent. wrote:
I think destroying the Wall deserves over 50% of an episode so I expect it to happen in the first or second episode of the last season


There won't be anything to it. Dragon attacks the wall w/ fire and it is destroyed. It will be a a 3-5 minute scene.

Yea pretty much
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Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9246 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-27 01:54:50
August 27 2017 01:54 GMT
#33729
Destroying an ancient megastructure in mere minutes sounds "wrong" but I guess you're right. I still think they'll save it to have something cool to open the next season with.
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Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-27 05:27:12
August 27 2017 05:26 GMT
#33730
On August 27 2017 10:54 Sent. wrote:
Destroying an ancient megastructure in mere minutes sounds "wrong" but I guess you're right. I still think they'll save it to have something cool to open the next season with.


I mean they have a dragon that can literally turn people to ash in the matter of seconds. What do you think that is gonna do to a wall made of ice?

I'm more interested in what exactly is gonna come out of it's mouth. Fire, ice, or some kind of blue fire?
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
August 27 2017 07:41 GMT
#33731
On August 27 2017 03:07 BlackCompany wrote:
So how do you think will this season end?
Littlefinger dieing? Arya/Sansa dieing?
The wall falling, Dany and Jon getting together, Jaime killing Cersei?

I feel like there are many good options for a worthy season finale


The LF/Arya/Sansa triangle perhaps has me the most puzzled as to how it's going to be resolved. I figured all 3 would be endgame players what with how much has already been invested in each character. LF has been quietly scheming for too long for him to go out now. Sansa is just beginning to grow into a competent player of the game. Arya still has people on her hit list and spent too much time training to be an assassin for her to go out like a chump.

In light of Arya choosing not to kill Sansa last episode, I highly doubt they'd backtrack and revisit that possibility. Additionally, I think Arya might have another purpose entirely this episode. Leaving LF vs Sansa, with a slight possibility of Bran finally playing a part. I somehow think LF will gain the upper hand this season, but Sansa will live to play the long con and outsmart him in the next.

==

I'd imagine with the length of the ep it's one or both of the WW destroying the Wall or the fall of Cersei. The latter is far more likely. Jamie turning on Cersei has been telegraphed to such an extent that I think it's too obvious to occur now. Jamie will die loving Cersei way more than she ever loved him. Instead, I'm going with the crazy prediction of Arya killing Cersei while assuming the identity of Jamie in the midst of the chaos. I believe Arya's journey to Winterfell was one big misdirection of her original goal at the beginning of this season, which was to kill Cersei.

==

CLEGANEBOWL!!! Both die

==

Theon probably redeems himself in some way. Euron and Yara die.
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Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4729 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-27 10:55:48
August 27 2017 10:50 GMT
#33732
Since quite a while every main character has been safe. Sure there is lots of people dying, but basically these are all side plots (Olana and her granddaughter, Tommen, The Dorneish girls, etc.). At this point I am not sure that the show/book has what it takes to kill a LittleFinger, Sansa or Jamie (obviously Daenerys, Jon Snow and even Cersei just won't die).

If we get a romance between Danerys and Jon "I have more lifes then 7 cats" Snow... in my estimation that would just be so obvious and so clichée, just horrible. If the show goes down that road, that is just too dumb. But ever since it became clear that Jon Snow is immortal you can see it coming. Please let me be wrong.

I feel as with nearly every good show quality is declining towards the end of it all. They are tying all the loose ends together and they don't have enough time to do it. Within two episodes, Jon Snow is in Winterfell, on Dragonstone and behind the wall. To me the pacing feels really off and I have a really hard time imagining a convincing and satisfying ending to this show.

Besides from those complains, the undead dragon is a really nice twist, things are getting pretty much out of hand.
All in all it is still an enjoyable show to watch.

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Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9407 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-27 11:08:23
August 27 2017 10:55 GMT
#33733
LF has been quietly scheming for too long for him to go out now.


Nah it's just been filler-scheming for a while. The writers don't know what to do with the Winterfell-plot so they are just trying to create some fake drama. It won't lead anywhere and Littlefinger will be killed off in this episode. Sansa and Arya still have plot armor (littlefinger doesn't).


I'd imagine with the length of the ep it's one or both of the WW destroying the Wall or the fall of Cersei. The latter is far more likely. Jamie turning on Cersei has been telegraphed to such an extent that I think it's too obvious to occur now. Jamie will die loving Cersei way more than she ever loved him. Instead, I'm going with the crazy prediction of Arya killing Cersei while assuming the identity of Jamie in the midst of the chaos. I believe Arya's journey to Winterfell was one big misdirection of her original goal at the beginning of this season, which was to kill Cersei.


Nothing will happen to Cersei this episode. She will acquire mercanaries to rebuild the lannister-army. I think its highly unlikely that Jamie will kill her, and then take over the Lannister army to fight against Dany.

I think the main point of the plot for this episode will be these two points:

1. Cersei will maybe fake that she agrees to stop fighting, but will rebuild her army and we will see a big mercanary army at the end.

2. The wall will fall.

Don't expect other major plot points. Maybe Sam will go back to Winterfell and the knowledge he gained about Jon being a legitimate son could come up if he talks to Bran. But maybe that is delayed until next season. Bran has been doing nothing all season and it would make sense if he will have some relevance in this episode.

With regards to Cleganebowl, it needs a set-up. Not really sure how they are going to fit it in this episode - though you never know w/ these writers.

I still hope we see some type of plot-twist w/ regards to Tyrion +Varus but highly unlikely it will occur this season (if at all).
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9407 Posts
August 27 2017 11:06 GMT
#33734
On August 27 2017 10:54 Sent. wrote:
Destroying an ancient megastructure in mere minutes sounds "wrong" but I guess you're right. I still think they'll save it to have something cool to open the next season with.


You also need to think in terms of budget. There is no way they can afford a huge battle at the wall given what they invested so far. Further, there isn't even any real army at the wall so it will be extremely onesided. And ofc they don't even have to break the wall where there are humans defending it. They could break it any location.
Isualin
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1903 Posts
August 27 2017 11:46 GMT
#33735
i would love to see the one true king Stannis riding an undead horse along with the white walkers
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Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
August 27 2017 15:24 GMT
#33736
On August 27 2017 19:50 Malinor wrote:
If we get a romance between Danerys and Jon "I have more lifes then 7 cats" Snow... in my estimation that would just be so obvious and so clichée, just horrible. If the show goes down that road, that is just too dumb. But ever since it became clear that Jon Snow is immortal you can see it coming. Please let me be wrong.

You are not wrong. D&D have explicitly said Jon and Dany are falling in love. They think it's super cool this way.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
August 27 2017 15:27 GMT
#33737
While it is a bit cliché it makes sense so i don't mind it at all. As with everything else the execution is important. I don't want a soap opera lovestory but something with more depth.
Add to that the family relationship and it could be interesting how they deal with all of it. Plus possible twists around azor ahai, etc.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 27 2017 16:31 GMT
#33738
On August 27 2017 14:26 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2017 10:54 Sent. wrote:
Destroying an ancient megastructure in mere minutes sounds "wrong" but I guess you're right. I still think they'll save it to have something cool to open the next season with.


I mean they have a dragon that can literally turn people to ash in the matter of seconds. What do you think that is gonna do to a wall made of ice?

I'm more interested in what exactly is gonna come out of it's mouth. Fire, ice, or some kind of blue fire?

That is clearly magic ice of some sort, it freezes straight up and down. . I expect the wall to fall is a more helms deep sort of way. Or maybe a large crack.
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-27 23:34:43
August 27 2017 23:32 GMT
#33739
Something I noticed while rewatching last episode, the gang is using dragonglass weapons or flaming magic swords or Valeerian steel. I think that is why the walkers felt more cannonfodderish than for example the one in Castle Black. When the Hound smashes one with Gendry's hammer, (which I assume is just normal steel) it stands back up again
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Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
August 28 2017 00:44 GMT
#33740
On August 28 2017 08:32 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Something I noticed while rewatching last episode, the gang is using dragonglass weapons or flaming magic swords or Valeerian steel. I think that is why the walkers felt more cannonfodderish than for example the one in Castle Black. When the Hound smashes one with Gendry's hammer, (which I assume is just normal steel) it stands back up again


Also happens to be a group of the most experienced fighters the realm has to offer. Wrights vs normal cannon fodder guys and it's going to be a bloodbath.

Realistically it's White Walkers vs the all-stars, wrights vs *insert army here*, and undead dragon vs alive dragon.
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