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KwarK
United States42831 Posts
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Emnjay808
United States10656 Posts
On July 31 2017 12:44 KwarK wrote: Also surely Euron can't actually believe that Cersei will marry him. He's got to be playing his own game here. its been mentioned a couple times that euron will only be her ally for now. the writing is pretty straightforward at this point, its all just fanservice from here on out. the castlerock battle was nice to see. though im a little disappointed that they had no siege towers. | ||
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shin_toss
Philippines2589 Posts
On July 31 2017 12:56 Emnjay808 wrote: its been mentioned a couple times that euron will only be her ally for now. the writing is pretty straightforward at this point, its all just fanservice from here on out. the castlerock battle was nice to see. though im a little disappointed that they had no siege towers. because they already planned that they will open the gate from the inside, or siege tower tech tree isnt unlocked yet | ||
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MassHysteria
United States3678 Posts
On July 31 2017 12:56 Emnjay808 wrote: its been mentioned a couple times that euron will only be her ally for now. the writing is pretty straightforward at this point, its all just fanservice from here on out. the castlerock battle was nice to see. though im a little disappointed that they had no siege towers. This is the part of the roller coaster where you just put your hands up and enjoy boys and girls. | ||
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KwarK
United States42831 Posts
And yet we're supposed to believe that he went "fuck it, dad's most important goal is to make a secure castle but I wanna get some pussy". Womanizing drinking "don't give a fuck" Tyrion is a product of his inability to satisfy his father's impossible standards. It's pretty irrelevant but they're really fucking up his character. They're rewriting it as him being a total fuckup forever until he meets Dany, becomes her hand, quits drinking and finds Jesus. Old Tyrion goes Tyrion giving 110% to everything to prove himself to the person who matters most to him Tyrion getting all depressed about his failure to prove himself no matter what he does Turns out that the guy was a massive hypocrite, Tyrion was always worthy of Tywin, Tywin was unworthy of Tyrion Tyrion killing that dude because fuck that guy Tyrion going through a nihilistic drinking period Tyrion giving 110% to everything to prove himself to the person who matters most to him New Tyrion goes lol, same old Tyrion, if there's pussy or wine involved he'll always get some, what a rascal Have you heard the good news about our lord and saviour Kelly C? | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
I definitely understand the complaints about Euron's ships though lol he somehow built a gigantic fleet and is now crushing it. Although the only believable thing about it is if he had that fleet and is doing a good job taking on Danny's army in chunks, not all at once. | ||
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KwarK
United States42831 Posts
On July 31 2017 13:29 blade55555 wrote: Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't that who Tyrion pretty much was when we first meet him? It's said he loves his whine and loves his whores. It was the same in the book. So I don't see it farfetched at all to see him build a secret passage for his whoring, something he was known for in that period of time. I definitely understand the complaints about Euron's ships though lol he somehow built a gigantic fleet and is now crushing it. Although the only believable thing about it is if he had that fleet and is doing a good job taking on Danny's army in chunks, not all at once. I think you've missed the point of his character, especially if you've read the books. Also we pick him up after years of being told that he's disappointed his father, no matter what he does, he's into escapism by then. But the idea that he would ever halfass any task Tywin gave him or compromise the family in some way, that's frankly absurd. Tyrions entire arc is that he gives more for House Lannister and tries harder for his father than anyone else and yet gets nothing for it until eventually he finds that his father is the real hypocrite and that it was never about the family. | ||
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Dav1oN
Ukraine3164 Posts
Tyrells Highgarden was a disappointment  And Euron's fleet using some kind of mass recall O_o | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
I like how bran is back and his sis is like, you're lord of winterfell and bran is all like: sis, my sole calling is being an emotional distant tree man, let me tell you about you being raped to 100% make sure you know I'm magic. Edit: and come on folks, some time passed. Jon got south and a bunch of armies moved. The fleet could have drop dread pirates ax man off on the way. Edit 2: where is the gold going to end up? Because there isn't no way it makes it back to kings landing. | ||
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Sermokala
United States13960 Posts
That he had a secret back door any half wit smuggler could have found is just dreadful. I can see the time frame being worse for jamie leading the army to high garden more then the iron fleet sailing around the south coast of westeros to catch up to the unsullied and the rock. Jamie would have to theoretically travel to the rock or some base close to the capital and then march it all the way through the country side and then take highgarden. Its a TV show so I can acept the liberties of time between the events. it does make the preview of the next episode akward of john snow still at dragon rock when the news of the rock and high garden come to them. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
I especially liked Jon Snow. | ||
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palexhur
Colombia730 Posts
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fishjie
United States1519 Posts
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VHbb
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 ) and by the way, Bronn! Hope he gets some relevant role in the next episodes.Overall, way better season than I was expecting: I always enjoyed the show, but somehow I was expecting things to be much more linear in this season, while it seems there are quite a few turns to pass yet. (come on we were all expecting Cersei to be done this season, while the the scenario seems still very open!) Also enjoyed - Sansa at Winterfell, and Brann's arrival - all scenes with Varyis - Daenerys / Jon Snow first encounter - the Iron Bank still playing a very relevant role - the battles, which weren't the central part of the episode, but still highlighted the salient points Btw was the take of Highgarden in the books? I can imagine that if you read the books, and it was a very epic battle described in all details, the way it was showed in the episode may be a bit disappointing. The lannister army on march was very cool though  p.s. "teleporting" simply means that the timeframe for an episode is wider, and a bit less linear GoT has to finish at some point - I'm only happy that they don't spend 5 episodes with fillers just to make the timeline linear and super consistent. | ||
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fishjie
United States1519 Posts
even worse with the land army surprising highgarden. "tyrion thought you'd be all defending casterly rock". right. so highgarden doesn't have any scouting armies, no watch towers with signal fires, nothing to be on the look out for an invasion. if this were a few days sure maybe, but since you're arguing the time frame is increased, there's no way an army making their way across, probably looting and pillaging as well would be undetected. also HBO is making spin off series to keep the cash cow going, so it'd make more sense to slow down the pace. its not filler episodes, the dialogue is good and makes the show interesting. | ||
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VHbb
689 Posts
About Grey Worm, he didn't really know that the enemy fleet could know his position (since he didn't know that Yara's fleet was defeated - which is where maybe they got information about the move to Casterly Rock). It's also possible that they did have scouting ships but they weren't able to scout the enemy's fleet before starting the attack to the Rock (and once they scout it, how do they get the information to Grey Work who is fighting in the castle?) There were many historical examples of naval armies "sneaking up" on each other, thanks to terrain (bays where to hide) - and I would imagine that the Euron is a better captain than whoever is leading the unsullied ships. I don't find it that unlikely or disturbing: how course it is not 100% perfect accuracy, but it doesn't seem unlikely, which is enough for me (it helps if you don't try to over-analyze everything  )p.s. overall this episode was *mostly* dialogue, with a few short battle scenes. I do appreciate it very much, and it's one of the best aspect of GoT - but I also would like to see the plot advanced.. | ||
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lestye
United States4164 Posts
But god bless the Bran Sansa scene under the tree was so wtf. | ||
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palexhur
Colombia730 Posts
On July 31 2017 16:46 VHbb wrote: It seems like at Highgarden the arrival of the Lannister was not a big surprise (see Olenna's reaction), so likely they did scout the army but not in time to do much about it. What could they have done, other than prepare the forces they already have at the castle? About Grey Worm, he didn't really know that the enemy fleet could know his position (since he didn't know that Yara's fleet was defeated - which is where maybe they got information about the move to Casterly Rock). It's also possible that they did have scouting ships but they weren't able to scout the enemy's fleet before starting the attack to the Rock (and once they scout it, how do they get the information to Grey Work who is fighting in the castle?) There were many historical examples of naval armies "sneaking up" on each other, thanks to terrain (bays where to hide) - and I would imagine that the Euron is a better captain than whoever is leading the unsullied ships. I don't find it that unlikely or disturbing: how course it is not 100% perfect accuracy, but it doesn't seem unlikely, which is enough for me (it helps if you don't try to over-analyze everything )p.s. overall this episode was *mostly* dialogue, with a few short battle scenes. I do appreciate it very much, and it's one of the best aspect of GoT - but I also would like to see the plot advanced.. What you are tellling is that the Lannister could move in Tyrells land a force but the Tyrells couldnt be prepared, lol , seriously I dont care anymore about the bad writing, but please dont be absurd to justify these plots. It is not even over analizing, it is just common sense, maybe you lack of that. | ||
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VHbb
689 Posts
On July 31 2017 17:11 palexhur wrote: What you are tellling is that the Lannister could move in Tyrells land a force but the Tyrells couldnt be prepared, lol , seriously I dont care anymore about the bad writing, but please dont be absurd to justify these plots. It is not even over analizing, it is just common sense, maybe you lack of that. I don't have any interest in "justify the plot" I'm just telling why I don't see this as a "bad writing" problem ("bad writing" is a bit abused in this thread, when something is not liked it becomes "bad writing" ...)Maybe we just disagree, I don't think this means I "lack common sense" (I guess kind of insulting makes you feel bigger, so go ahead )I forgot why I avoided reading this thread last year - too bad because I like talking about the episode after watching it.. | ||
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