On May 11 2016 00:04 Diavlo wrote: Jesus Christ, little sam is still a fucking 1 year old... At this point they really should put emphasis on how much time passed since the beginning of the show because the rate of growth of all the characters is so confusing I have no idea how old any of the characters are. At this point I have no clue if Tommen is 12 or 18 and it makes a pretty big difference in the way I judge his character and the political struggles surrounding him. The worst part is that even the actors don't know...
In a subsequent interview with Vulture.com, Dean-Charles Chapman revealed that the writers never told him how old Tommen is, and he assumed he was still 12 years old, based specifically on the fact that he was said to be 8 years old four years before in Season 1. He even tries to play him younger by user a higher pitched voice than his normal speaking voice. Chapman said: "It's kind of hard to get in the mind of a 12-year-old, because I can't even remember being 12. And Tommen is so young, he's like a baby." The same interview, however, postulated that the character might have been aged-up when he was recast, and that Chapman just assumed he is 12 years old because the writers never specified how old Tommen is
Tommen got retconned to be older.
Basic date structure of the show atm:
Robert's Rebellion is in the year 281 Greyjoy's Rebellion is in the year 289 Season 1 takes place in the year 298 Season 2 takes place in the year 299 and so on with each season being a year.
So we're in 303 right now.
The one exception is Tommen. Officially he was 14 when the show started. He's 19 now, same age Joffrey was when he died.
Am I the only one bothered by this? Changing the age of a character midway through by 5 years seems so stupid to me. For example when Margaery comes into Tommen's room to seduce him I thought he was 12-13 years old which showed to what length she would go to to be the queen, hitting on what would be a kid to her. And his reaction is what I would expect for a kid that age. But he's supposed to be 17? Wtf...
And if each season is around a year, how is little sam was still a baby in season 5 and now looks like a 1 year old.
Reading the source you gave it seems like the writer make it on the fly which is so bad when you consider the amount of material they have.
There's reasons for all of it, but they all happen to draw on differences between the show and the books so I won't talk about it here. Little Sam should be older though, I think he's 3 now, ready to walk.
I think a lot of the characters had to be older to make certain storylines filmable. Like if Sansa was still a teenager her marriage to Ramsay would have gone over even worse than it already did. Tommen and Margery might have been a no-go too, especially the scene where they're lying naked in bed, but that wasn't the most vital of scenes so whatever...
But it is pretty jarring to see Rickon and Bran start off as little kids and end up as teenagers now. I guess it makes us feel like the northerners do when you see grown-up Rickon and it's like... who's that supposed to be (especially since they don't have the internet to tell us it's the same actor =p)?
Well boys hit puberty late so you could make an argument for Tommen starting out 12ish and being a late bloomer. But girls hit it earlier and Myrcella was puny in Seasons 1/2. That's really the jarring one.
On May 11 2016 00:04 Diavlo wrote: Jesus Christ, little sam is still a fucking 1 year old... At this point they really should put emphasis on how much time passed since the beginning of the show because the rate of growth of all the characters is so confusing I have no idea how old any of the characters are. At this point I have no clue if Tommen is 12 or 18 and it makes a pretty big difference in the way I judge his character and the political struggles surrounding him. The worst part is that even the actors don't know...
In a subsequent interview with Vulture.com, Dean-Charles Chapman revealed that the writers never told him how old Tommen is, and he assumed he was still 12 years old, based specifically on the fact that he was said to be 8 years old four years before in Season 1. He even tries to play him younger by user a higher pitched voice than his normal speaking voice. Chapman said: "It's kind of hard to get in the mind of a 12-year-old, because I can't even remember being 12. And Tommen is so young, he's like a baby." The same interview, however, postulated that the character might have been aged-up when he was recast, and that Chapman just assumed he is 12 years old because the writers never specified how old Tommen is
Tommen got retconned to be older.
Basic date structure of the show atm:
Robert's Rebellion is in the year 281 Greyjoy's Rebellion is in the year 289 Season 1 takes place in the year 298 Season 2 takes place in the year 299 and so on with each season being a year.
So we're in 303 right now.
The one exception is Tommen. Officially he was 14 when the show started. He's 19 now, same age Joffrey was when he died.
Am I the only one bothered by this? Changing the age of a character midway through by 5 years seems so stupid to me. For example when Margaery comes into Tommen's room to seduce him I thought he was 12-13 years old which showed to what length she would go to to be the queen, hitting on what would be a kid to her. And his reaction is what I would expect for a kid that age. But he's supposed to be 17? Wtf...
And if each season is around a year, how is little sam was still a baby in season 5 and now looks like a 1 year old.
Reading the source you gave it seems like the writer make it on the fly which is so bad when you consider the amount of material they have.
There's reasons for all of it, but they all happen to draw on differences between the show and the books so I won't talk about it here. Little Sam should be older though, I think he's 3 now, ready to walk.
I think a lot of the characters had to be older to make certain storylines filmable. Like if Sansa was still a teenager her marriage to Ramsay would have gone over even worse than it already did. Tommen and Margery might have been a no-go too, especially the scene where they're lying naked in bed, but that wasn't the most vital of scenes so whatever...
But it is pretty jarring to see Rickon and Bran start off as little kids and end up as teenagers now. I guess it makes us feel like the northerners do when you see grown-up Rickon and it's like... who's that supposed to be (especially since they don't have the internet to tell us it's the same actor =p)?
Well boys hit puberty late so you could make an argument for Tommen starting out 12ish and being a late bloomer. But girls hit it earlier and Myrcella was puny in Seasons 1/2. That's really the jarring one.
Props to HB for pointing it out first, but if Rickon is just a Shaggy Dog story I'm going to be really annoyed. Even the starks that have died have meant something, having Rickon not matter would annoy me so much
On May 11 2016 11:37 Jaaaaasper wrote: Props to HB for pointing it out first, but if Rickon is just a Shaggy Dog story I'm going to be really annoyed. Even the starks that have died have meant something, having Rickon not matter would annoy me so much
Why? He hasn't mattered at all up to this point. Just because his last name is Stark does not mean he should get a big arc and a meaningful death imo. He's been a fairly unimportant character so far, sacrificing him to further the northern plotline seems a solid way to go out.
If he does survive, he'll probably return to being irrelevant, so what's the point?
edit: Rickon trivia: "He's 88th with 10 minutes of screen time, spanning 5 seasons alongside other pivotal characters such as Locke, Irri and Orell. Good luck finding some show watchers who remember who these guys are."
I actually remember Locke and Irri, have to look up who Orell is tho :o
Orell is the wildling warg with Ygritte/Tormund when they crossed the wall
Regarding Rickon,I agree that he is kinda irrelevant up to this point IF he dies, on the other hand IF he survives, he CAN have a role to fill in and be relevant til the end of the show.
On May 11 2016 11:37 Jaaaaasper wrote: Props to HB for pointing it out first, but if Rickon is just a Shaggy Dog story I'm going to be really annoyed. Even the starks that have died have meant something, having Rickon not matter would annoy me so much
Why? He hasn't mattered at all up to this point. Just because his last name is Stark does not mean he should get a big arc and a meaningful death imo. He's been a fairly unimportant character so far, sacrificing him to further the northern plotline seems a solid way to go out.
If he does survive, he'll probably return to being irrelevant, so what's the point?
edit: Rickon trivia: "He's 88th with 10 minutes of screen time, spanning 5 seasons alongside other pivotal characters such as Locke, Irri and Orell. Good luck finding some show watchers who remember who these guys are."
I actually remember Locke and Irri, have to look up who Orell is tho :o
On May 11 2016 23:55 aseq wrote: Yeah, Irri was the one I didn't remember either. When I just looked up what she looked like, I still didn't remember, haha.
She has a really, really cringeworthy deleted scene posted here for your mocking pleasure:
On May 11 2016 03:09 Djzapz wrote: So I'm kind of wondering what's Arya's pertinence to the story now. If she's "no one" as they lose no opportunity to remind us, then the girl formerly known as Arya is kinda dead (maybe?) and she's therefore unable to exert her death wish upon people whom she now has no reason to particularly dislike since she's not actually Arya.
Are the faceless bros going to allow her to be kind of Arya-ish and kill some of the people she wants dead or is it going in a completely different direction? Are we going to get 2 more seasons of boring montage? Or is she now just a gear in the Faceless bros big machine? Looking forward to something happening on that front.
Also the Dany arch seems to just be filler, delaying actual things that matter from happening. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe something important will happen in Vaes Dothrak but it seems like they just wanted to yank her out of Meereen to get Tyrion and Varys to advance the plot. I guess my buddy might be right, maybe she's going to acquire an army of Dothraki out of it, but it seems to me like she's on a sidequest. There's still the same problem that not only the dothraki won't go onto ships, the ships have burned down anyway and plus they don't have any reason for now to follow her in any of her bullshit adventures.
I think the Many Faced God will allow her to be "a girl with a list". The price of her service are the names on her list. At 8:55
Her training partner asks her about her list and offers to add more names to her list given to her from the house of black and white. At 2:05
Orell is the wildling warg with Ygritte/Tormund when they crossed the wall
Regarding Rickon,I agree that he is kinda irrelevant up to this point IF he dies, on the other hand IF he survives, he CAN have a role to fill in and be relevant til the end of the show.
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