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shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
May 10 2016 00:47 GMT
#29561
I am totally hoping that Umber is a ruse, that the wolf's head is fake, and that he will try to gain Ramsay's trust to finally betray him and revenge his house and the Starks'.


Hoping for this too .
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killa_robot
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1884 Posts
May 10 2016 00:51 GMT
#29562
On May 10 2016 07:18 Noocta wrote:
I don't mind the dual wielding guy idea.. but common. People that fought like that ( very few too ) did use a way shorter sword in offhand.

You don't dual wield two 2 foot longswords ffs


You do if you're a badass.

On May 10 2016 09:17 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2016 06:29 zatic wrote:
I am totally hoping that Umber is a ruse, that the wolf's head is fake, and that he will try to gain Ramsay's trust to finally betray him and revenge his house and the Starks'.

I man can wish for.

I thought it was an awesome episode!

How do you fake a dire wolf head though? Does not seem likely.


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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
May 10 2016 01:01 GMT
#29563
I'm assuming they have normal wolves? Just find one and chop its head off.
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Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
May 10 2016 03:20 GMT
#29564
They killed another Direwolf.

Okay fuck this show.
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Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
May 10 2016 03:47 GMT
#29565
It's definitely Rickon, the expression on his face when the wolf's head was revealed says it all.
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-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
May 10 2016 08:28 GMT
#29566
On May 10 2016 10:01 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I'm assuming they have normal wolves? Just find one and chop its head off.

Yea, the head seemed too small to me as well. Either it was a wolf head or the producers of the show fracked it up by making a too small fake Direwolf head.
Warfie
Profile Joined February 2009
Norway2846 Posts
May 10 2016 08:49 GMT
#29567
On May 10 2016 12:47 Scarecrow wrote:
It's definitely Rickon, the expression on his face when the wolf's head was revealed says it all.

nobody doubts it's rickon, it's even the same actor. question is if he's in on some kind of scheme with the umbers, and that they faked the wolf to convince ramsay. but the theory is kind of poor because there would be no need to even put the real rickon in there - which is a huge risk - if the wolf's head was enough to convince mr bolton
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
May 10 2016 09:06 GMT
#29568
It's been so long I couldn't tell it was the same actor, if they're really working together there's no way Rickon being at the Bolton's mercy is a good plan. It seems like a convenient plot device to get a disinterested Jon to fight for the the north to save his half-brother.
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Garbels
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria653 Posts
May 10 2016 09:12 GMT
#29569
Title (Oathbreaker) made me think brienne didn't kill stannis. Episode made me think of tv tropes.
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9276 Posts
May 10 2016 09:19 GMT
#29570
Lets not forget that the great plotter Littlefinger thought giving Sansa to Boltons was a great plan, we shouldn't rule out a plan just because it sounds dumb
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-10 09:20:44
May 10 2016 09:19 GMT
#29571
Nah, Umber giving Rickon to Ramsay is to help Ramsay get Sansa back, and thereafter he's going to use the fact that Ramsay killed/tortured Rickon to dethrone Ramsay and take his place, with Sansa as his wife.

On May 10 2016 18:19 Sent. wrote:
Lets not forget that the great plotter Littlefinger thought giving Sansa to Boltons was a great plan, we shouldn't rule out a plan just because it sounds dumb

Well it would have been a good plan if Ramsay hadn't been a complete degenerate sadist with very little political sense, no?
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haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2723 Posts
May 10 2016 09:40 GMT
#29572
And probably that Ramsey was a sadist with no political sense is part of littlefinger plan.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
May 10 2016 10:09 GMT
#29573
On May 10 2016 18:19 OtherWorld wrote:
Nah, Umber giving Rickon to Ramsay is to help Ramsay get Sansa back, and thereafter he's going to use the fact that Ramsay killed/tortured Rickon to dethrone Ramsay and take his place, with Sansa as his wife.

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On May 10 2016 18:19 Sent. wrote:
Lets not forget that the great plotter Littlefinger thought giving Sansa to Boltons was a great plan, we shouldn't rule out a plan just because it sounds dumb

Well it would have been a good plan if Ramsay hadn't been a complete degenerate sadist with very little political sense, no?

Is it a good plan though? What does it achieve? A fractured North and Vale vs the other kingdoms wouldn't work well...
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snailz
Profile Joined April 2011
Croatia900 Posts
May 10 2016 10:38 GMT
#29574
how was whoring away sansa a good plan? i remember littlefinger being pretty convinced of it, but it was so obvious she was eventually escaping, that the whole plot seemed like a really cheap way to get sansa raped / viewers shocked. littlefinger not scouting ahead who ramsay actually was is also pretty out of character. why would u give up a person with the strongest claim on the North to someone you cant even trust. there's no power play there...
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Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
May 10 2016 10:47 GMT
#29575
On May 10 2016 18:40 haitike wrote:
And probably that Ramsey was a sadist with no political sense is part of littlefinger plan.


Littlefinger did not know anything about Ramsey. He probably has learned since then but had he known anything about Ramsey back then he never would have given Sansa to him in the first place. He assumed he was similar to Roose and thus while dangerous a man who could be manipulated.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
May 10 2016 10:51 GMT
#29576
On May 10 2016 19:09 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2016 18:19 OtherWorld wrote:
Nah, Umber giving Rickon to Ramsay is to help Ramsay get Sansa back, and thereafter he's going to use the fact that Ramsay killed/tortured Rickon to dethrone Ramsay and take his place, with Sansa as his wife.

On May 10 2016 18:19 Sent. wrote:
Lets not forget that the great plotter Littlefinger thought giving Sansa to Boltons was a great plan, we shouldn't rule out a plan just because it sounds dumb

Well it would have been a good plan if Ramsay hadn't been a complete degenerate sadist with very little political sense, no?

Is it a good plan though? What does it achieve? A fractured North and Vale vs the other kingdoms wouldn't work well...


On May 10 2016 19:38 snailz wrote:
how was whoring away sansa a good plan? i remember littlefinger being pretty convinced of it, but it was so obvious she was eventually escaping, that the whole plot seemed like a really cheap way to get sansa raped / viewers shocked. littlefinger not scouting ahead who ramsay actually was is also pretty out of character. why would u give up a person with the strongest claim on the North to someone you cant even trust. there's no power play there...

Well, to trigger the Lannisters into marching on Winterfell with his help. Then once he's Warden of the North and is de facto ruler of the Vale, he has enough strength to fight for the Throne. And he could even hide Sansa while he's marching on the Throne, and then take her as a wife.
As for Sansa obviously escaping, I dunno, if anything it was certain that she'd be badly treated, but usually Ramsay doesn't let people who get too close to him escape.
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KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14904 Posts
May 10 2016 12:09 GMT
#29577
lol, the lannisters know he baelish fucked them over with sansa come on
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10137 Posts
May 10 2016 14:09 GMT
#29578
On May 10 2016 21:09 KOFgokuon wrote:
lol, the lannisters know he baelish fucked them over with sansa come on

Hmm, as far i know they do not, and don't have any proof about it, am i forgetting some reference ?
DickMcFanny
Profile Blog Joined September 2015
Ireland1076 Posts
May 10 2016 14:28 GMT
#29579
Sorry, I didn't pay close enough attention to the show, do we know where Littlefinger is at?
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KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14904 Posts
May 10 2016 14:36 GMT
#29580
from next episode's preview he's back in the vale

I'm pretty sure Cersei definitely had a discussion with the small council about ramsay marrying sansa, i'm somewhat confident that they mentioned littlefinger in that discussion as well
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