EPTI am totally hoping that Umber is a ruse, that the wolf's head is fake, and that he will try to gain Ramsay's trust to finally betray him and revenge his house and the Starks'.
Hoping for this too .
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shin_toss
Philippines2589 Posts
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killa_robot
Canada1884 Posts
On May 10 2016 07:18 Noocta wrote: I don't mind the dual wielding guy idea.. but common. People that fought like that ( very few too ) did use a way shorter sword in offhand. You don't dual wield two 2 foot longswords ffs You do if you're a badass. On May 10 2016 09:17 Redox wrote: How do you fake a dire wolf head though? Does not seem likely. Never underestimate the power of paper mache! | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
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Emnjay808
United States10639 Posts
Okay fuck this show. | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On May 10 2016 10:01 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: I'm assuming they have normal wolves? Just find one and chop its head off. Yea, the head seemed too small to me as well. Either it was a wolf head or the producers of the show fracked it up by making a too small fake Direwolf head. | ||
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Warfie
Norway2846 Posts
On May 10 2016 12:47 Scarecrow wrote: It's definitely Rickon, the expression on his face when the wolf's head was revealed says it all. nobody doubts it's rickon, it's even the same actor. question is if he's in on some kind of scheme with the umbers, and that they faked the wolf to convince ramsay. but the theory is kind of poor because there would be no need to even put the real rickon in there - which is a huge risk - if the wolf's head was enough to convince mr bolton | ||
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Scarecrow
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Garbels
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Sent.
Poland9105 Posts
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On May 10 2016 18:19 Sent. wrote: Lets not forget that the great plotter Littlefinger thought giving Sansa to Boltons was a great plan, we shouldn't rule out a plan just because it sounds dumb Well it would have been a good plan if Ramsay hadn't been a complete degenerate sadist with very little political sense, no? | ||
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haitike
Spain2704 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States13960 Posts
On May 10 2016 18:19 OtherWorld wrote: Nah, Umber giving Rickon to Ramsay is to help Ramsay get Sansa back, and thereafter he's going to use the fact that Ramsay killed/tortured Rickon to dethrone Ramsay and take his place, with Sansa as his wife. Well it would have been a good plan if Ramsay hadn't been a complete degenerate sadist with very little political sense, no? Is it a good plan though? What does it achieve? A fractured North and Vale vs the other kingdoms wouldn't work well... | ||
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snailz
Croatia900 Posts
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Adreme
United States5574 Posts
On May 10 2016 18:40 haitike wrote: And probably that Ramsey was a sadist with no political sense is part of littlefinger plan. Littlefinger did not know anything about Ramsey. He probably has learned since then but had he known anything about Ramsey back then he never would have given Sansa to him in the first place. He assumed he was similar to Roose and thus while dangerous a man who could be manipulated. | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On May 10 2016 19:09 Cricketer12 wrote: Is it a good plan though? What does it achieve? A fractured North and Vale vs the other kingdoms wouldn't work well... On May 10 2016 19:38 snailz wrote: how was whoring away sansa a good plan? i remember littlefinger being pretty convinced of it, but it was so obvious she was eventually escaping, that the whole plot seemed like a really cheap way to get sansa raped / viewers shocked. littlefinger not scouting ahead who ramsay actually was is also pretty out of character. why would u give up a person with the strongest claim on the North to someone you cant even trust. there's no power play there... Well, to trigger the Lannisters into marching on Winterfell with his help. Then once he's Warden of the North and is de facto ruler of the Vale, he has enough strength to fight for the Throne. And he could even hide Sansa while he's marching on the Throne, and then take her as a wife. As for Sansa obviously escaping, I dunno, if anything it was certain that she'd be badly treated, but usually Ramsay doesn't let people who get too close to him escape. | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14892 Posts
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Godwrath
Spain10109 Posts
On May 10 2016 21:09 KOFgokuon wrote: lol, the lannisters know he baelish fucked them over with sansa come on Hmm, as far i know they do not, and don't have any proof about it, am i forgetting some reference ? | ||
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DickMcFanny
Ireland1076 Posts
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KOFgokuon
United States14892 Posts
I'm pretty sure Cersei definitely had a discussion with the small council about ramsay marrying sansa, i'm somewhat confident that they mentioned littlefinger in that discussion as well | ||
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