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On May 04 2016 16:15 Harris1st wrote:
Wow this thread...
every single small plothole gets totally blown out of proportion lol
There simply isn't enough air time to explain it all, or would you rather have every character have a 10min long monologue explaining his actions rather than doing something?
Oh man you should see the book thread 
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On May 04 2016 16:58 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2016 16:15 Harris1st wrote:
Wow this thread...
every single small plothole gets totally blown out of proportion lol
There simply isn't enough air time to explain it all, or would you rather have every character have a 10min long monologue explaining his actions rather than doing something? Oh man you should see the book thread
I'm not going in there again, too nerdy (even though I've read the books ) ^_^
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Zurich15361 Posts
On May 04 2016 16:56 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2016 16:46 Sterlymobile wrote:
Does Balon dying mean Theon is the next king? The grey haired dude mentioned something about customs when Yara was saying she was the ruler now. Things are looking up Theon! Nope. Recall that the ironborn either think Theon is dead or too much of a greenlander to rule of he was alive...
As far as I recall only Balon thought so. And he is dead. Also no one except Yara knows what a mess he is. Theon should be next in line.
That is if he makes it home in the first place to show everyone in time that he is alive. In any case I highly doubt he wants the job, and in his state of mind/body his claim will surely be challenged by proper Ironborn.
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On May 04 2016 16:58 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2016 16:15 Harris1st wrote:
Wow this thread...
every single small plothole gets totally blown out of proportion lol
There simply isn't enough air time to explain it all, or would you rather have every character have a 10min long monologue explaining his actions rather than doing something? Oh man you should see the book thread
After the show is fully out, I am probably not gonna read the books, but spend the rest of my life catching up with the book thread just out of curiosity 
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If you enjoy vitriol, go for it.
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On May 04 2016 17:12 zatic wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2016 16:56 Cricketer12 wrote:On May 04 2016 16:46 Sterlymobile wrote:
Does Balon dying mean Theon is the next king? The grey haired dude mentioned something about customs when Yara was saying she was the ruler now. Things are looking up Theon! Nope. Recall that the ironborn either think Theon is dead or too much of a greenlander to rule of he was alive... As far as I recall only Balon thought so. And he is dead. Also no one except Yara knows what a mess he is. Theon should be next in line. That is if he makes it home in the first place to show everyone in time that he is alive. In any case I highly doubt he wants the job, and in his state of mind/body his claim will surely be challenged by proper Ironborn.
The guy that performed Balon's sea burial told Yara that she wasn't guaranteed succession, but had to be selected by the Kingsmoot. I assume the same would hold for Theon, especially since this is the definition of a Moot:
"an assembly of the people in early England exercising political, administrative, and judicial powers."
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Theon is a perfectly legitimate male heir. I'm pretty sure he wouldn't need to win any kind of election. Only Yara would, because women don't normally get to rule.
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On May 05 2016 02:22 Scorch wrote:
Theon is a perfectly legitimate male heir. I'm pretty sure he wouldn't need to win any kind of election. Only Yara would, because women don't normally get to rule.
Well, Balon didn't think so. And I doubt other Iron Islanders would think so either, especially with his inability to produce heirs...
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On May 05 2016 02:38 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2016 02:22 Scorch wrote:
Theon is a perfectly legitimate male heir. I'm pretty sure he wouldn't need to win any kind of election. Only Yara would, because women don't normally get to rule. Well, Balon didn't think so. And I doubt other Iron Islanders would think so either, especially with his inability to produce heirs...
Yup. Its pretty clear that the ironborn are based on vikings and the vikings were super penis focused...
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Does anyone beside Yara know about that?
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Ramsay, I'm sure he would spread that knowledge if he found out his pet leads the Ironborn
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Balon knew too, but he had already declared Yara his heir so that was more nail-in-the-coffin for Theon winning him over.
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On May 05 2016 04:09 Wuster wrote:
Balon knew too, but he had already declared Yara his heir so that was more nail-in-the-coffin for Theon winning him over.
Again, the ironborn think him dead. Yara knows he is alive. Everyone else unless sent Ramsey's letter should be under the impression he died when Winterfell fell to the Northern retaliation...
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Ironborne follow the strong, nobody is going to follow theon when he can't even hold a sword properly or command a ship.
A Kingsmoot will be held and we already have a great contender for the seastone chair in Euron Greyjoy.
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On May 04 2016 16:58 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2016 16:15 Harris1st wrote:
Wow this thread...
every single small plothole gets totally blown out of proportion lol
There simply isn't enough air time to explain it all, or would you rather have every character have a 10min long monologue explaining his actions rather than doing something? Oh man you should see the book thread
I just go there to laugh at their nit picking haha. I read the books to, but man some people feel so entitled in there...
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Germany25657 Posts
I'm just reading both threads to make fun of the salt levels that are reached whenever a scene in Dorne happens.
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On May 05 2016 08:20 KadaverBB wrote:
I'm just reading both threads to make fun of the salt levels that are reached whenever a scene in Dorne happens.
Dorne salt makes McDonald's fries jealous.
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On May 05 2016 02:22 Scorch wrote:
Theon is a perfectly legitimate male heir. I'm pretty sure he wouldn't need to win any kind of election. Only Yara would, because women don't normally get to rule.
That scene made it pretty clear Ironborn are an elective monarchy. Usually the dead ruler's pick wins, but not always... other people within the house can also try to get elected. Sounds like that's Jack Sparrow's plan.
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On May 06 2016 08:32 Yoav wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2016 02:22 Scorch wrote:
Theon is a perfectly legitimate male heir. I'm pretty sure he wouldn't need to win any kind of election. Only Yara would, because women don't normally get to rule. That scene made it pretty clear Ironborn are an elective monarchy. Usually the dead ruler's pick wins, but not always... other people within the house can also try to get elected. Sounds like that's Jack Sparrow's plan.
It's not clear to me. I thought it was an ordinary hereditary monarchy with the throne going to the male heir. The election is only necessary as a fallback solution because Balon's male heirs, his son and brother, are missing or thought dead. Once the pirate brother reveals his presence, he'll probably be crowned without an election. Why else would he suddenly return home to kill Balon?
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Zurich15361 Posts
Yeah it was pretty clear all the way from Season 1 on that Theon will be the heir to the Iron Islands. Election seems to happen because Theon is presumed dead.
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