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Archibo
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Doppelganger
488 Posts
On May 16 2011 21:42 ItsMeDomLee wrote: If the books are a 10 this show is a 5.5. I just don't understand why they're not sticking to the book 100%. A lot of this 'character development' that they're doing is actually changing the characters themselves. Joff's character has suffered (believe it or not) from the wishy washiness that's been shown on the show. In the book he's an cruel ass but in the show he's a dumb ass. Renly turned into a pussy. : / I feel that the only good added scene in this entire show so far is the Varys/Baelish scene. I may be missing one but no more than that. Thank God that at the end of this season book 5 comes out. TV shows adhere to different storytelling principles. a)you show you don't tell there will be many things, that we only know from hearsay in the books that will be cut or will be shown b)there is no inner monologue and therefore you have to show everything from the outside it is impossible to make an copy of the books without a lot of shitty scenes that won't work on television but I agree to a certain point, that the scene with theon in the whorehouse was wasted time... and the loras sex scene... well can they not show a relationship without the characters fucking on screen? On the other hand: The scene with robert and cersei was one of thebest scenes in the entire series. so for me it is very much hit and miss. and the Lysa scene was pretty much a shocking change in Style and tone so much that I think they could have taken the time to build that up. | ||
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ItsMeDomLee
Canada2732 Posts
On May 16 2011 22:01 Doppelganger wrote: TV shows adhere to different storytelling principles. a)you show you don't tell there will be many things, that we only know from hearsay in the books that will be cut or will be shown b)there is no inner monologue and therefore you have to show everything from the outside it is impossible to make an copy of the books without a lot of shitty scenes that won't work on television but I agree to a certain point, that the scene with theon in the whorehouse was wasted time... and the loras sex scene... well can they not show a relationship without the characters fucking on screen? On the other hand: The scene with robert and cersei was one of thebest scenes in the entire series. so for me it is very much hit and miss. and the Lysa scene was pretty much a shocking change in Style and tone so much that I think they could have taken the time to build that up. While I appreciated that scene as well, it kind of messes up the characters pretty bad. In that scene, you are shown how much the king and queen despise each other but at the same time it shows a level of understanding and respect for each other. I'm not sure that was ever present in the books. I'm not sure if that is a good or bad thing and which version is better, still undecided on the matter. | ||
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OrchidThief
Denmark2298 Posts
On May 16 2011 21:42 ItsMeDomLee wrote: If the books are a 10 this show is a 5.5. Complete disaster really. I just don't understand why they're not sticking to the book 100%. A lot of this 'character development' that they're doing is actually changing the characters themselves. Joff's character has suffered (believe it or not) from the wishy washiness that's been shown on the show. In the book he's an cruel ass but in the show he's a dumb ass. They neuter Cat's character.. Renly turned into a pussy. : / I feel that the only good added scene in this entire show so far is the Varys/Baelish scene. I may be missing one but no more than that. Thank God that at the end of this season book 5 comes out. It's not too late for this season to turn around but judging from the first 5 episodes the rest will be just as bad. Then again, book 1 isn't half as good as book 3 and 4 anyways. Yeah we get it, the books are different from the show. I really wish people would get over this and start discussing the show on it's own merits. Even if it's not against the rules, please consider not posting that: "Wow this character was so much better in the books"-post that you've been typing up, it's getting to a point where it's just annoying. | ||
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PlaGuE_R
France1151 Posts
I seriously hope you guys dont adopt the attitude you show on here in the bedroom with your wives/gf or thats bound to be a frigid relationship. Just so you understand why sex is important in any TV show, you need to remember what the top 3 motives for murder are first is sex second is money and third is power. so much intrigue and crap happens because of sex, The Hand's death, + Show Spoiler + Vyserys' death was because he sold his sister to be a sex slave but she rose up as more then that. + Show Spoiler + Ned's death was for uncovering that Cersei and Jaime sleep together + Show Spoiler [book 3] + Theon's betrayal of the Starks can be foreshadowed by how he gets taunted by even a lowly whore about being a "ward" | ||
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Cylon
United States124 Posts
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ItsMeDomLee
Canada2732 Posts
On May 16 2011 22:09 Cylon wrote: I don't understand why they got rid of the gates of the moon and the entire trip up to the eyrie. So they could shave Renly's hair and do more brothel scenes.... | ||
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ItsMeDomLee
Canada2732 Posts
On May 16 2011 22:08 OrchidThief wrote: Yeah we get it, the books are different from the show. I really wish people would get over this and start discussing the show on it's own merits. Even if it's not against the rules, please consider not posting that: "Wow this character was so much better in the books"-post that you've been typing up, it's getting to a point where it's just annoying. What did you want to read? That a horse got cleaved in half and a split second later they show a full horse collapsing? Or that Tyrion was bludgeoning a strawman with his shield? If an episode sucks expect the fans of the series to express it. | ||
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duckii
Germany1017 Posts
On May 16 2011 22:09 Cylon wrote: I don't understand why they got rid of the gates of the moon and the entire trip up to the eyrie. they still have the moon gate, it's the well look-alike in the middle of the throne room *nevermind, I know what you meant | ||
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OrchidThief
Denmark2298 Posts
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Carras
Argentina860 Posts
cant wait an entire week for another episode! | ||
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tyCe
Australia2542 Posts
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Darksteel
Finland319 Posts
On May 16 2011 22:00 Archibo wrote: Sorry if this question has been asked yet, but is there a possibility to see the series online outside of the USA? I read all the books and have been waiting on dance of dragons for what seems to be years, so I hope to bridge the time gap with the TV show until the fifth book is being published. Depends on where you live I guess, but in Finland we get everything very late so I usually watch the series as they come via "guestionable methods" and buy DVDs of the really good ones afterwards. Good series are worth watching more than once | ||
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betaV1.25
425 Posts
On May 16 2011 22:38 Darksteel wrote: Depends on where you live I guess, but in Finland we get everything very late so I usually watch the series as they come via "guestionable methods" and buy DVDs of the really good ones afterwards. Good series are worth watching more than once Best bet is to buy the dvd's on amazon.co.uk the rest of europe will have to wait a long time i would say. | ||
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piegasm
United States266 Posts
On May 16 2011 22:09 PlaGuE_R wrote: OMG SEX! OMG!! OMG! RUN FOR THE HILLS! SHIELD YOUR EYES! AAH! SEX!!!! oh wait look, he cleaved a horse in half, AWESOME LOL oh wait AAAAH GAY SEX! AAAAH OMG! OMG!!! AAAAH GAY SEX!!!! oh look Jory with a knife thru his face, that's fucking awesome. I seriously hope you guys dont adopt the attitude you show on here in the bedroom with your wives/gf or thats bound to be a frigid relationship. Just so you understand why sex is important in any TV show, you need to remember what the top 3 motives for murder are first is sex second is money and third is power. so much intrigue and crap happens because of sex, The Hand's death, + Show Spoiler + Vyserys' death was because he sold his sister to be a sex slave but she rose up as more then that. + Show Spoiler + Ned's death was for uncovering that Cersei and Jaime sleep together + Show Spoiler [book 3] + Theon's betrayal of the Starks can be foreshadowed by how he gets taunted by even a lowly whore about being a "ward" I really don't think the objection is to the simple fact that it's being shown. It's more in the fact that a lot of it is simply gratuitous. You don't need full frontal nudity in order to inform the audience that the characters in question are having or recently had sex. Two people in a bed, clearly wearing nothing under the blankets conveys the same message and has the added benefit of not alienating those who are squeemish about such things. I'm not the least bit offended by the nudity or the violence but I feel the message it sends is that the producers of the show aren't confident enough in their work to let it stand on its own merit so they throw in a bunch of gratuitous sex and violence. I'm not male but if I was I'd also be a little irked at the idea that the producers think I need said gratuitous sex and violence to make me want to watch their TV show. In the end it's a pretty minor complaint because I think the series is excellent overall. It's the first show in years I've cared to watch more than one episode of. I just think some of the sex is a bit gratuitous and extraneous and therefore unnecessary. | ||
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Whalecore
Norway1111 Posts
Wolf vs Lion - Wolves win right? RIGHT?? | ||
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Tili_us
Belgium44 Posts
On May 16 2011 23:10 Whalecore wrote: Newest episode was fucking epic. Wolf vs Lion - Wolves win right? RIGHT?? Yeah. No... | ||
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Coolbeans
Ireland162 Posts
On May 16 2011 22:00 Archibo wrote: Sorry if this question has been asked yet, but is there a possibility to see the series online outside of the USA? I read all the books and have been waiting on dance of dragons for what seems to be years, so I hope to bridge the time gap with the TV show until the fifth book is being published. If you want to watch it legally outside of the US Sky Atlantic airs GoT on monday nights in Ireland and UK probably similar channels around Europe aswell | ||
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betaV1.25
425 Posts
On May 16 2011 23:33 Coolbeans wrote: If you want to watch it legally outside of the US Sky Atlantic airs GoT on monday nights in Ireland and UK probably similar channels around Europe aswell Sadly no  only uk and Ireland.The rest will have to wait or be creative. | ||
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RA
Latvia791 Posts
Banhammer is coming. | ||
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