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MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
June 17 2014 06:46 GMT
#25561
What if Varys is one of those guys that can go into the mind of an animal and his is a spider? Thats how he gets all his information!
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
JSK
Profile Joined February 2013
United States133 Posts
June 17 2014 07:00 GMT
#25562
On June 17 2014 06:53 Lonyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2014 06:12 SpiZe wrote:
On June 17 2014 05:02 AsnSensation wrote:
I understand that this was heavy cavalry against light armored footsoldiers but I thought Stannis only had a small army left, how did he defeat 100k so fast.

anyway after this episode I definitely understand why so many bookreaders like stannis the fucking mannis.

Tyrion - Shae+Tywin scene was meh after all the hype it got but from what I read on reddit it seems the D&D changed a lot and left out an epic scene most book readers expected to be the last scene.

Kind of surprised it wasn't Daeny that got the very last scene of the season once again but considering how excited I am for more Bravos and more Arya adventures, she deserved it!


I doubt he defeated the whole 100k, I mean a 100k person camping + supplys takes a fuck ton of place. Like a lot. It makes more sense to me to think that Stannis' army attacked the vanguard and went straight to the heart (where Mance was) using the advantage of surprise, cavalry, training and discipline. Remember that they have made a very clear point of the wildlings being "free folk", poeple that goes along doing what they want and only Mance is keeping them united towards a single goal : safety. Upon seeing cavalry lines charging towards them, some obviously abandonned and fled (most of them actually, it didn't look like much of the wildlings where trying to fight, we saw a lot being slauthered while running).

So I guess it's safe to assume most of the free folk just ran away. I mean even if they were unarmed and sleeping, the slaughter of a 100k should take quite some time.


Manse was probably at the front with everyone else far behind doing whatever in the old camp.
They attacked at night, but they didn't start right at the front, while Stannis attacked the front of the forest.

Manse had no reason at all in the world to expect anyone to attack. He knew pretty much that the Crows couldn't go offensive against him, he was sat doing nothing. Stannis was able to attack because Manse was way off guard, and his army was behind him in their old camps, while he was at the front keeping an eye around and preparing for the next assault.
Makes perfect sense that hardly anyone was around and that it was an easy battle against only a few wildlings. Plus horses are way faster than people, so any people behind them in their camps would never make it to help with Manse's defence.


they did run, see my quote in the post above

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FrogOfWar
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany1406 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-17 07:31:15
June 17 2014 07:29 GMT
#25563
On June 17 2014 15:45 Yenticha wrote:
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On June 17 2014 07:42 sc4k wrote:
A point that my gf raised that seems completely legit to me: was Shae acting on Tywin's orders for the entirety of him knowing her? Tywin set up his son with a surefire weakness that he would always have control of. She fell in 'love' with him very quickly. She was always so sure she wanted to stay in KL even though it was extremely dangerous. She was extremely vindictive at the trial, beyond what one would imagine a 'scorned' lover to be.


I have exactly the same question. I have not read the books, and Shae is so hard to understand. Just from watching the show, I would assume that she was actually spying on Tyrion the whole time (which reminds me of the time Jaime set him up with a prostitute without telling him).
Because the other option is that Shae is just one of the dumbest characters ever, and that's not cool.


No. Why would she be dumb? She'd be a whore who manipulates men to her advantage. I imagine she had a better life with Tyrion in King's Landing than she had whoring around in a soldier camp like she was when we first met her. Pretty young manipulative bitch hooking up with rich men - it has been known to happen ;-)


Also didn't understand why Arya was *so* hateful vs the Hound. I thought she wanted him dead, no him having a very crual and painful death.


I agree. She seems quite full of herself there. What did he do other than killing the stupid butcher's boy, who for all he knew attacked the prince? How about Ned Stark chopping off a poor fellow's head because he dared to run from a zombie massacre? The hound's speech about how he should have fucked Sansa actually is another point in his favor, because he didn't. Just like he never mistreated Arya, but helped her about 25 times to survive her own killing spree. Didn't he also protect her from Brienne who he thought worked for the Lannisters? So what's her problem with him? I am disappoint.
shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
June 17 2014 07:30 GMT
#25564
Fighter power rankings should change since Brienne beats the Hound on a straight up 1v1
AKMU / IU
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
June 17 2014 07:31 GMT
#25565
On June 17 2014 16:30 shin_toss wrote:
Fighter power rankings should change since Brienne beats the Hound on a straight up 1v1


After he's been wounded and been noted moving slower by Arya. Not exactly at 100% up to par when he fought Brienne.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
June 17 2014 07:33 GMT
#25566
The Hound at 100% would surely beat Brienne hands down. His infectious bite wound on the neck and travelling such a long distance while killing and stealing took its toll
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Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
June 17 2014 07:37 GMT
#25567
How Brienne of fucking Tarth standed after that Hound headbutt >.>

I call hax.
Revolutionist fan
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
June 17 2014 07:40 GMT
#25568
On June 17 2014 16:31 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2014 16:30 shin_toss wrote:
Fighter power rankings should change since Brienne beats the Hound on a straight up 1v1


After he's been wounded and been noted moving slower by Arya. Not exactly at 100% up to par when he fought Brienne.

And now he's dead. Shall the Hound remain above Brienne in rank because he might have been better in optimal conditions in his prime?

We're kind of out of known fighters anyway.
Barristan Selmy, Brienne, Jon Snow, Tormund the wildling, Grey Worm. The Kingsguard thugs(which all combined suck ass according to Barristan)
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-17 07:41:28
June 17 2014 07:40 GMT
#25569
On June 17 2014 16:37 Salteador Neo wrote:
How Brienne of fucking Tarth standed after that Hound headbutt >.>

I call hax.


Because she's a fucking badass. It's not unheard of to hear of a woman being able to take a bloody good shot from a man and still be standing. If he didn't hit her in the jaw or squarely on the temples then there's no reason for her to be knocked out.
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
June 17 2014 07:51 GMT
#25570
plus the fight looked super scrappy with all the groin kicks and stuff even biting the hounds ear and plus falling down the cliff really ended him
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
FrogOfWar
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany1406 Posts
June 17 2014 08:07 GMT
#25571
On June 17 2014 16:37 Salteador Neo wrote:
How Brienne of fucking Tarth standed after that Hound headbutt >.>

I call hax.


The cartoony violence is really a trend lately on GoT, like Jon Snow's head being smashed on an anvil and him just spitting once and being fine, or Hodor being hit in the face with a hammer and just taking a scratch.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
June 17 2014 08:21 GMT
#25572
On June 17 2014 16:33 MooMooMugi wrote:
The Hound at 100% would surely beat Brienne hands down. His infectious bite wound on the neck and travelling such a long distance while killing and stealing took its toll

thats like saying that the Viper if he wasnt showboating would wreck the Mountain.
or that Ned would wreck Jamie if he didnt have to first kill a bunch of Lannister flunkies.
lilopuppy
Profile Joined August 2012
Philippines542 Posts
June 17 2014 08:43 GMT
#25573
Also Brienne had a Valyrian sword at the start of the fight. That's like +100 in ATK.
All the way to TI322!
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-17 08:46:07
June 17 2014 08:45 GMT
#25574
On June 17 2014 17:07 FrogOfWar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2014 16:37 Salteador Neo wrote:
How Brienne of fucking Tarth standed after that Hound headbutt >.>

I call hax.


The cartoony violence is really a trend lately on GoT, like Jon Snow's head being smashed on an anvil and him just spitting once and being fine, or Hodor being hit in the face with a hammer and just taking a scratch.


They really need to keep their action tropes in check, they've been going crazy the last couple of episodes. That was never the draw of the show so I'm not sure why they're so bent on LOTR-izing it at this stage.
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
June 17 2014 08:51 GMT
#25575
random question, is a mace any good on a horse? like u just swing it in like a circular motion next to ur horse and just run at people, tho i guess it could hurt urself if it bouced off someones sheild/body and ended up hitting urslef in the face LOL
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
June 17 2014 08:57 GMT
#25576
Hound Nooooo!
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
June 17 2014 09:42 GMT
#25577
On June 17 2014 17:51 Shock710 wrote:
random question, is a mace any good on a horse? like u just swing it in like a circular motion next to ur horse and just run at people, tho i guess it could hurt urself if it bouced off someones sheild/body and ended up hitting urslef in the face LOL

Maces are heavy and clunky, don't really benefit from being on a horse. I'd say you abuse your speed, and the fact you always strike downwards with a weapon (costs less strenght) which makes swords and spears superior weapons on horseback.
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
June 17 2014 09:46 GMT
#25578
I'm hoping for Oberyns brother to appear next season and be just as awesome as him :D!
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
June 17 2014 09:46 GMT
#25579
The way i see the Shae situation, Tywin found out about Shae before the trial and specifically said "find her and bring her to my chambers"

I then think he threatened the ever-living shit out of her and basically said "My dick or your life" along with needing to testify at the trial.

When tyrion found her, she knew what she had done was unforgivable and panicked for her own life, hence the "ima stab u biatch!" reaction.

She knew damn well how much tyrion cared for her safety when he sent her away and soon learnt just how serious shit was when she was caught by tywin, but it was already too late, all she could do was try to save her own skin.

I think tywin and shae playing this game from the very beginning is pretty outlandish/absurd and would ruin a large part of the storyline for me.
Useless wet fish.
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
June 17 2014 09:48 GMT
#25580
On June 17 2014 17:51 Shock710 wrote:
random question, is a mace any good on a horse? like u just swing it in like a circular motion next to ur horse and just run at people, tho i guess it could hurt urself if it bouced off someones sheild/body and ended up hitting urslef in the face LOL

Do you actually mean a mace (morning star) or a flail (ball on a chain)? I'd say that most weapons are decent on horseback just because the horse gives you a huge advantage over foot soldiers. A flail, however, might be hard to time correctly and easy to injure your horse or leg with. I'd rather have a sword or spear.

About Shae: some seem to think Shae was with Tywin all along. But could she not just be a straight up stupid whore who met Tyrion by chance, actually fell in love with him, then got jealous and bitchy? And when she was discovered she betrayed Tyrion because she was paid or forced to do it, or even out of her own hurt feelings.
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