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LucasWoJ
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States936 Posts
December 07 2009 23:43 GMT
#921
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Yeah, I dislike Laguerta to a certain extent, but I don't remember disliking her in earlier seasons. I think it may have something to do with her lone function now: her relationship with Batista. Batista at least does something in the show, but I'm beginning to grow less attached to him as a character. If both Laguerta and Batista were to die in some plot-twisting way, I don't think I would care.

Nevertheless, I having watched the previews for the next episode.... [Don't click the spoiler link below if you haven't watched the preview]
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Is the Trinity Killer to be trusted in terms of the deal he offers Dexter? If not, who's he going to kill? Dexter? Rita? Cody?

"Of all the words of mice and men, the saddest are it could have been." - Kurt Vonnegut
Chuiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
3470 Posts
December 08 2009 00:26 GMT
#922
Laguerta annoys me too, but then so do most characters. It seems like every other character but Dexter is a cookie-cutter character from generic cop shows.
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Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-08 01:13:23
December 08 2009 01:13 GMT
#923
OOOHHH MYYYYY GOOODDDDDDD. !!!!!!!!!!!

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Deb tells what's her face "I would've done the same thing." during her interview. WILL she? Will she cover for Dexter if it comes down to it? That preview gave me chills. Hollyyy shit
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meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
December 08 2009 01:13 GMT
#924
On December 08 2009 10:13 Warrior Madness wrote:
OOOHHH MYYYYY GOOODDDDDDD. !!!!!!!!!!!

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Deb tells what's her face "I would've done the same thing." during her interview. WILL she? Will she cover for Dexter if it comes down to it? That preview gave me chills. Hollyyy shit


Holy shit... I never thought of that!
Maero
Profile Joined December 2007
349 Posts
December 08 2009 01:35 GMT
#925
On December 08 2009 08:43 LucasWoJ wrote:
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Yeah, I dislike Laguerta to a certain extent, but I don't remember disliking her in earlier seasons. I think it may have something to do with her lone function now: her relationship with Batista. Batista at least does something in the show, but I'm beginning to grow less attached to him as a character. If both Laguerta and Batista were to die in some plot-twisting way, I don't think I would care.

Nevertheless, I having watched the previews for the next episode.... [Don't click the spoiler link below if you haven't watched the preview]
+ Show Spoiler +
Is the Trinity Killer to be trusted in terms of the deal he offers Dexter? If not, who's he going to kill? Dexter? Rita? Cody?



Where is the preview you're referring to here? I obviously can't find it.
AtlaS
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1001 Posts
December 08 2009 01:45 GMT
#926
On December 08 2009 08:37 Horiz0n wrote:
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On December 08 2009 08:17 Foucault wrote:
On December 08 2009 07:01 Horiz0n wrote:
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the ending was great, John Lithgow grows on me for every episode (soon he will take over the world!)
didnt like that Maria Laguerta wasnt kicked she is a needle in my eye


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Yeah John Lithgow is awesome. Why on earth is Maria Laguerta a needle in your eye though. Because she's a woman? I can't see much reason to dislike her character.

Anyways, this episode was exciting but I get the feeling that the last couple of episodes have been rushed, and too much weird stuff is happening. Someone else notice that Dexter seems closer and closer to a nervous breakdown? He's been really stressed out lately by everything and it's noticeable.



V - (text also contains spoiler from the first book)

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I cant put my finger on it but its something about her character that just infuriates me, she should have died like in the book...

And I don't think its because she is a she, If it where, I believe I would have problem with more people in the show

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I disliked her in previous seasons for being an all around bitch to Deb. She's gotten better within the last two seasons but there is something about her that I don't like. It's not gender cause I do like Deb, I don't like Rita though (I don't think i'm alone when it comes to her). Idk, there is something about her that just bugs me.
I don't have mono anymore. Woooo!
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-08 01:49:50
December 08 2009 01:48 GMT
#927
finale promo video

+ Show Spoiler +
Maero
Profile Joined December 2007
349 Posts
December 08 2009 01:55 GMT
#928
On December 08 2009 10:48 BlackJack wrote:
finale promo video

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjUUNobMU-s&feature=related


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Thanks... do you have any clue what Lucas is talking about when he refers to Trinity's "offer"? I must have missed something.
toopham
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States551 Posts
December 08 2009 02:07 GMT
#929
AHHHHH.

"Hello ...dexter morgannn"

Gives me the chill.
cant wait until The Finale xD
DIE!!!
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
December 08 2009 03:27 GMT
#930
On December 08 2009 10:55 Maero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2009 10:48 BlackJack wrote:
finale promo video

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjUUNobMU-s&feature=related


+ Show Spoiler +
Thanks... do you have any clue what Lucas is talking about when he refers to Trinity's "offer"? I must have missed something.


no idea, maybe he will clarify
LucasWoJ
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States936 Posts
December 08 2009 03:34 GMT
#931
On December 08 2009 10:55 Maero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2009 10:48 BlackJack wrote:
finale promo video

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjUUNobMU-s&feature=related


+ Show Spoiler +
Thanks... do you have any clue what Lucas is talking about when he refers to Trinity's "offer"? I must have missed something.



+ Show Spoiler +
This is what I was referring to:
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=5923695n&tag=related;photovideo

(just the clip at the beginning)

Trinity offers to leave Dexter alone if Dexter disappears from his life.
"Of all the words of mice and men, the saddest are it could have been." - Kurt Vonnegut
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
December 08 2009 03:37 GMT
#932
I like Deb but that indent between her eyebrows is really distracting. Not to mention her wide jaw and other masculine features. She's very unfortunate looking =[
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
December 08 2009 03:59 GMT
#933
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Plot holes galore. Why would Dexter rush right to work when he knows that Trinity was there and probably was luring him in. Why wouldn't the police check her phone, especially after knowing that she was in contact with Trinity.

But yeah, I still can't wait until next week to see how Dexter handles this situation.
Sullifam
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
December 08 2009 04:11 GMT
#934
On December 08 2009 12:59 ghostWriter wrote:
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Plot holes galore. Why would Dexter rush right to work when he knows that Trinity was there and probably was luring him in. Why wouldn't the police check her phone, especially after knowing that she was in contact with Trinity.

But yeah, I still can't wait until next week to see how Dexter handles this situation.


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well dexter rushes off for deb. he knows it's not his best move as a serial killer, but it's his best move as a brother. i did expect a little better constant vigilance from dexter, but (1) he's bound to make mistakes when he's involved in so much shit without a break and (2) the tv show wouldnt work if dexter was perfect haha. i guess some fans would like his mistakes to be unavoidable in a stricter sense (like he acts 100% logically with as much info as possible and perfect execution, but still gets screwed), but i think it's nice that his mistakes are inevitable as a result of his life choices.

as for the phone, yeah, definitely a mistake there. but the writers are generally so good, i'd guess they were aware of it and just accepted it. there could've been a scene of her dumping her phone, but then there'd also have to be a scene where the detectives think of checking her phone, then discover that it's gone, etc, and all that screen time is contributing to nothing but the covering of this plot hole. just not worth it.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7232 Posts
December 08 2009 04:11 GMT
#935
This finale is going to be AMAZING.
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Maero
Profile Joined December 2007
349 Posts
December 08 2009 04:53 GMT
#936
On December 08 2009 12:34 LucasWoJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2009 10:55 Maero wrote:
On December 08 2009 10:48 BlackJack wrote:
finale promo video

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjUUNobMU-s&feature=related


+ Show Spoiler +
Thanks... do you have any clue what Lucas is talking about when he refers to Trinity's "offer"? I must have missed something.



+ Show Spoiler +
This is what I was referring to:
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=5923695n&tag=related;photovideo

(just the clip at the beginning)

Trinity offers to leave Dexter alone if Dexter disappears from his life.


Ooooh, that's new. Thanks for the link :D
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
December 08 2009 06:29 GMT
#937
On December 07 2009 16:40 ItchReliever wrote:
watching the new episode as we speak.

one thing i've never understood with dexter. why does he not let the police capture the bad guys? it doesn't seem to fit with his code of killing only bad guys, it shows how he cares more about just killing people than the fact they are evil--yet he seems to care about innocent deaths


He DOES care more about just killing people. That's the whole basis of his character. He has irresistible urges to kill people, he was just taught by his dad to channel those urges towards other murderers. He cares more about the challenge and the hunt involved in taking down particularly notorious adversaries so he goes out of his way to make sure the police don't get in his way.

Harry thought that he could keep Dexter protected and somewhat innocent by directing his urges towards the worst society has to offer. Harry eventually realized that directing Dexter to only kill murderers didn't change the fact that he was himself a monster. When Harry walked into Dexter's kill room and saw what Dexter was doing, and Dexter asked for approval, Harry realized that Dexter wasn't killing bad guys because they deserved it, but because he needed to kill and his dad happened to point him in a certain direction. That's when Harry killed himself.

Only recently has he started to develop a sense of attachment to the people in his life. Even then, one could argue it's still more for camouflage than real caring, just like Arthur uses his family to shield him from suspicion. Dexter has been finding it increasingly difficult to pretend to be a normal guy with all the relationships he requires to do it, and being the serial killer that he really is underneath. We know that if he was forced to choose one life over another, it wouldn't even be a choice for him, he can't stop being a serial killer.
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
December 08 2009 06:33 GMT
#938
But when he has to make a choice, he now prioritizes so that his family comes before his own needs. Like when he was looking for trinity in the arcade and Deb calls, he (kinda stupidly) goes right back to the police station to comfort her. And just because the police catch bad guys doesn't mean that they get punished. Some people get fancy lawyers to get them off, others aren't able to be prosecuted due to lack of evidence or whatever, but Dexter makes sure that they can't harm other people anymore.
Sullifam
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
December 08 2009 06:39 GMT
#939
On December 07 2009 15:38 GGQ wrote:
Dexter is only as smart as the plot allows him to be.


Dexter wasn't being stupid, he was being overwhelmed. It's been a theme for some time now, he can't keep juggling all his responsibilities as a family man with his serial killing. Not realizing that Trinity set a trap to follow him was a result of his fake life distracting him, not stupidity. It's just like the time he fell asleep at the wheel and crashed his car after a kill. He feels that his cover life might actually be making him more human, but his main reason for keeping it is still to prevent him from seeming like a suspicious lone wolf. It's becoming apparent that he can't keep juggling for much longer, and if something has to go, it'll be Rita and the kids.

We know from all the way back to Season 1 that when he does something without enough planning and his undivided attention, he makes mistakes that can lead back to him. He messed up when killing the Cuban smuggler because he didn't expect the wife to show up, and because he was thinking about how to fix his relationship with Rita. He also messed up with Paul, leaving the shoe behind, because he acted on impulse that time. Without careful planning, Dexter makes a lot of mistakes.

Dexter didn't know Deb would call him in the middle of a hunt. Given that he couldn't find Arthur, he felt that going back to Deb to comfort her would be the best option because it maintains his false life and didn't appear to hurt his chances at catching Arthur. That was a logical conclusion. The speed at which the whole thing happened prevented him from thinking carefully and seeing the possibility that it was a trap. Remember, after the call with Arthur, he rushed immediately over and searched the entire place but couldn't find him. Then he gets an urgent call and has to rush away again. Of course he's not going to be thinking straight and not notice a van tailing him.
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-08 06:46:09
December 08 2009 06:42 GMT
#940
On December 07 2009 18:16 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Yeah, but I thought part of his code was killing people who were going to do it again?
Either way this episode was kind of slow and not much happened, but I feel like it set up for a crazy finale.


The trucker was a former murderer but no immediate threat, true. However, Dexter hasn't always checked for his targets to be immediate threats. I think he mostly said that to Miguel because he was trying to discourage him from participating.
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