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On October 25 2011 15:27 chroniX wrote: Dexter didnt kill anyone in that episode, right? Isnt that pretty special?
I thought that too. I couldn't think of another episode where he hasn't killed anymore. But the episode didn't feel special compared to others.
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On October 25 2011 15:27 chroniX wrote: Dexter didnt kill anyone in that episode, right? Isnt that pretty special?
I'm pretty sure this isnt the first episode, were he hasnt killed anyone...
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Dexter pointed out that the crime scene seemed created by 2 people. One person being very neat about the placement the other guy chopping at the corpse unexperienced.
Then again if it's a fight-club-esque ghost then it could even fake differences in skill.
Like said i suppose it's not too crazy a theory. Sure he stole the sword but who knows what happened along the way. Like someone said maybe they started this together and the old guy died along the way.
It is remakeable that he has yet to speak to anyone except the other killer and after 4 eps that does make him likely to be a ghost character.
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On October 25 2011 15:44 JediGamer wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2011 05:19 valaki wrote:On October 25 2011 05:03 Cainam wrote:I don't think anyone has proposed this yet but is it clear to anyone else that... + Show Spoiler +...Olmos' character is not real. I'm pretty sure he is dead and is somehow manifested as a part of Colin Hanks' personality, not unlike Dexter's father. He has not addressed anyone besides Hanks directly, and when they were at the restaurant he did not even have a place setting in front of him. Now that you mention it...in this episode he sneaked in Travis' or the girl's house then dragged her out from the bed then tied her up without waking up Travis. Hey Quinn/Genius!, his face is on the website and they already spoke about him. I'll eat my words if they turn this into some fight club hangers. Edit: haha everyone here jumping bandwagon on some already proven rule. People like conspiracy theories I suppose.
Are you nuts? Nobody said he never existed. He did, but he died somehow before the season begun. Before you start calling people out, you should start listing the evidences why do you think he's alive now, rather than living only in Travis' head.
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On October 25 2011 16:32 MadNeSs wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2011 15:27 chroniX wrote: Dexter didnt kill anyone in that episode, right? Isnt that pretty special? I'm pretty sure this isnt the first episode, were he hasnt killed anyone...
It's definitely not the first. I wish I could prove it by providing episode numbers, but I definitely remember in the past thinking "Hey, there wasn't a killing this week". It's happened a few times.
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On October 25 2011 05:03 Cainam wrote:I don't think anyone has proposed this yet but is it clear to anyone else that... + Show Spoiler +...Olmos' character is not real. I'm pretty sure he is dead and is somehow manifested as a part of Colin Hanks' personality, not unlike Dexter's father. He has not addressed anyone besides Hanks directly, and when they were at the restaurant he did not even have a place setting in front of him. You are right. Mind = blown. 99% certain.
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The season's theme is starting to get pretty good, though they could left Dexter out of the religion shit IMO. But that was pretty obvious when "Brother Sam" came into the picture. Hes great actor for that character though.
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I love this season, the whole religion theme is really well done, with series not trying to force either side while also making is really interesting and thought provoking and this theory about the Doomsday killer being actually one person with a multiple person disorder would make it even better
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On October 25 2011 17:00 zalz wrote: Dexter pointed out that the crime scene seemed created by 2 people. One person being very neat about the placement the other guy chopping at the corpse unexperienced.
Then again if it's a fight-club-esque ghost then it could even fake differences in skill.
Like said i suppose it's not too crazy a theory. Sure he stole the sword but who knows what happened along the way. Like someone said maybe they started this together and the old guy died along the way.
It is remakeable that he has yet to speak to anyone except the other killer and after 4 eps that does make him likely to be a ghost character.
I'm also convinced that Olmos' character no longer exists. The character never interacted with anyone in this season. The character was alive and had some wild ideas and then died, I would assume by the hands of Travis (Colin Hanks' character). This then tipped Travis into some mentally unstable state, schizophrenia / multiple personality disorder / take your pick, where Gellar, the religious extremist, represents one side of the Travis character, while the other side is a more "standard" person, eyeing up the ladies, sleeping with them on the first date, etc...
The regular Travis is your standard issue sociopath killer, with the violence and imperfect cutting (like Dexter remarked when studying the bodyparts of the 4 horsemen victim). The side represented by Gellar is the "artist" (note that in one of the scenes in the last episode, Gellar is seen painting the angel-figure, the way the waitress was displayed at the end of the episode) that wants to create a "tableau".
Having a single person with a mental disorder present a crime as if it was performed by more than one person has been done in crime series before (Criminal Minds, if I recall correctly). It's not a stretch to think that the Dexter-crew borrowed some ideas here and there. The parallels between Travis having an deceased older character guiding him and Dexter chatting up his dad would be quite clear (if Gellar turns out to indeed be dead).
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It's definitely a nice theory. Part of me wishes I didn't hear it, since now if it ends up being true I'll have been spoiled. >_<
I usually don't mind reading theories in these kinds of threads, because none of them end up coming true.
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Wasn't there an scene where Olmos burned himself with an iron and Travis experiencing clear physical pain? That pretty much confirms this theory?
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On October 25 2011 22:07 Cel.erity wrote: It's definitely a nice theory. Part of me wishes I didn't hear it, since now if it ends up being true I'll have been spoiled. >_<
I usually don't mind reading theories in these kinds of threads, because none of them end up coming true.
You know, even Dexter said something that could indicate to this if you would watch extremely careful! And not to mention all the clear indicators which has been said already.
From the last scene:
"But that's not the look of a murderer. That's the look of a man with true faith. I've seen it before on brother Sam. Whatever this guy believes, he knows it to be true."
But yeah, i agree somewhat. But in Dexter it has been pretty clear if you have been watching carefully.
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On October 25 2011 22:07 Cel.erity wrote: It's definitely a nice theory. Part of me wishes I didn't hear it, since now if it ends up being true I'll have been spoiled. >_<
I usually don't mind reading theories in these kinds of threads, because none of them end up coming true.
Second that, the theorie makes too much sense not to be true and I wish I had not encountered it.
Really clever find, though. Talk about thinking outside the box.
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Interesting I'll have to watch the other episodes. He certainly seems to talk in much the same types of ways as Dexter's dad does. The tied up girl didn't actually look at him, especially when he said she was part of god's plan now, instead she just looked at Travis like "wtf are you doing?".
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On October 25 2011 18:38 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2011 05:03 Cainam wrote:I don't think anyone has proposed this yet but is it clear to anyone else that... + Show Spoiler +...Olmos' character is not real. I'm pretty sure he is dead and is somehow manifested as a part of Colin Hanks' personality, not unlike Dexter's father. He has not addressed anyone besides Hanks directly, and when they were at the restaurant he did not even have a place setting in front of him. You are right. Mind = blown. 99% certain.
How do you explain his photo and the website? To me it means he is real. Maybe he's dead like dex father but I doubt it. In an episode he physically picks up the mannequin head from the ground. If they make him an hallucination after that i will be disapoint
Also, the tied up girl in last episode.
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The guy was literally doing painting (physical action).. in that "monestary" or w/e the setting was for holding the prisoners. He is on a website. Dexters dad was none of this.
At this point if this theory is true, I won't be surprised because Dexter hasn't been good since John Lithgow was on it. But it honestly would mean they think we are barely more intelligent than Jersey Shore watchers.
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On October 26 2011 04:14 tl4life wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2011 18:38 Koshi wrote:On October 25 2011 05:03 Cainam wrote:I don't think anyone has proposed this yet but is it clear to anyone else that... + Show Spoiler +...Olmos' character is not real. I'm pretty sure he is dead and is somehow manifested as a part of Colin Hanks' personality, not unlike Dexter's father. He has not addressed anyone besides Hanks directly, and when they were at the restaurant he did not even have a place setting in front of him. You are right. Mind = blown. 99% certain. How do you explain his photo and the website? To me it means he is real. Maybe he's dead like dex father but I doubt it. In an episode he physically picks up the mannequin head from the ground. If they make him an hallucination after that i will be disapoint Also, the tied up girl in last episode. Since when are there rules against hallucinating certain things?
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On October 26 2011 04:14 tl4life wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2011 18:38 Koshi wrote:On October 25 2011 05:03 Cainam wrote:I don't think anyone has proposed this yet but is it clear to anyone else that... + Show Spoiler +...Olmos' character is not real. I'm pretty sure he is dead and is somehow manifested as a part of Colin Hanks' personality, not unlike Dexter's father. He has not addressed anyone besides Hanks directly, and when they were at the restaurant he did not even have a place setting in front of him. You are right. Mind = blown. 99% certain. How do you explain his photo and the website? To me it means he is real. Maybe he's dead like dex father but I doubt it. In an episode he physically picks up the mannequin head from the ground. If they make him an hallucination after that i will be disapoint Also, the tied up girl in last episode.
He went "underground" according to all the cops and since when Dead people can't have a website? Dexters father does things too though, so i don't see anyway to solve this than waiting for future episodes.
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I'm 98% certain that the professor is a hallucination. We keep coming back to the scene in the diner where 2 things happen.
Olmos has nothing in front of him, and despite not ever looking at the waitress makes the offhand comment of how Colin Hank's character feels about her. Colin's character even goes make conflict by adressing Olmos as though Olmos already knows the answer.
Also when the waitress asks If only Colin's character needs more coffee. Ignoring Olmos entirely.
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On October 26 2011 04:21 JediGamer wrote: The guy was literally doing painting (physical action).. in that "monestary" or w/e the setting was for holding the prisoners. He is on a website. Dexters dad was none of this.
At this point if this theory is true, I won't be surprised because Dexter hasn't been good since John Lithgow was on it. But it honestly would mean they think we are barely more intelligent than Jersey Shore watchers.
How does painting mean he is not a hallucination? You can hallucinate someone doing a "physical action." Have you not seen fight club? And ya, someone with some crazy mental disorder definitely couldn't be pretending to be someone else on a website. Everything on the internet is true! The character has never actually interacted with anyone else, which is the only way to verify he is still alive. Maybe you should think things over a bit more before saying that they are insulting your intelligence. Maybe you should stick to jersey shore.
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