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On October 25 2011 05:03 Cainam wrote:I don't think anyone has proposed this yet but is it clear to anyone else that... + Show Spoiler +...Olmos' character is not real. I'm pretty sure he is dead and is somehow manifested as a part of Colin Hanks' personality, not unlike Dexter's father. He has not addressed anyone besides Hanks directly, and when they were at the restaurant he did not even have a place setting in front of him.
Now that you mention it...in this episode he sneaked in Travis' or the girl's house then dragged her out from the bed then tied her up without waking up Travis.
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On October 25 2011 04:34 Fraidnot wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2011 03:13 Mogwai wrote: funny to me to hear so many people saying this was their favorite episode of the season when so much of this thread is bitching and moaning about plots that no one cares about. This whole episode was developing uninteresting plot lines. That's been a problem of the show for years now. Everyone on the show is only interesting because of their relationship to Dexter. Just about everything that doesn't involve Dexter has been boring, the difference with this episode was that it was "fun." Dexter isn't going to go for the big guns, probably ever, so if I were you I wouldn't sit around waiting for the sub plots to be interesting. I wish the show did have the balls do stuff with the other characters, but it doesn't even have the guts to push even Dexter's character. They take the blue pill every time. Season 2: Lila kills Doakes for Dexter Season 3: Dexter confesses to Prado but only when he is on his table. Season 4: Killing Rita without her learning the truth Season 5: Deb walks away from discovering Dexter That's just the way it works I'm not waiting for this show to become Breaking Bad. I accept it for what it is, this last episode was just way too much of not-Dexter for me and it was the type of not-Dexter that doesn't even progress the greater plot, so it was just irritating for me.
On October 25 2011 05:03 Cainam wrote:I don't think anyone has proposed this yet but is it clear to anyone else that... + Show Spoiler +...Olmos' character is not real. I'm pretty sure he is dead and is somehow manifested as a part of Colin Hanks' personality, not unlike Dexter's father. He has not addressed anyone besides Hanks directly, and when they were at the restaurant he did not even have a place setting in front of him. wow, didn't really think about it, but this is a really damn good theory.
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On October 25 2011 05:03 Cainam wrote:I don't think anyone has proposed this yet but is it clear to anyone else that... + Show Spoiler +...Olmos' character is not real. I'm pretty sure he is dead and is somehow manifested as a part of Colin Hanks' personality, not unlike Dexter's father. He has not addressed anyone besides Hanks directly, and when they were at the restaurant he did not even have a place setting in front of him. very Interesting
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On October 25 2011 05:03 Cainam wrote:I don't think anyone has proposed this yet but is it clear to anyone else that... + Show Spoiler +...Olmos' character is not real. I'm pretty sure he is dead and is somehow manifested as a part of Colin Hanks' personality, not unlike Dexter's father. He has not addressed anyone besides Hanks directly, and when they were at the restaurant he did not even have a place setting in front of him.
wow, that would be cool.. pretty crazy. nice notice on the place setting.. i wanna go rewatch that scene now.
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On October 25 2011 05:03 Cainam wrote:I don't think anyone has proposed this yet but is it clear to anyone else that... + Show Spoiler +...Olmos' character is not real. I'm pretty sure he is dead and is somehow manifested as a part of Colin Hanks' personality, not unlike Dexter's father. He has not addressed anyone besides Hanks directly, and when they were at the restaurant he did not even have a place setting in front of him.
that really doesn't explain the whole college professor who stole a sword etc etc
also, im pretty sure the guy's face was on his website iirc.
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wait what, people actually don't like this season?
i love it. the killings are much more interesting, the excon preacher guy is a cool character, only thing that annoys me is that the killers assistant is so beta it hurts to watch scenes with him... his entire character can be described with the "okay.jpg" pic.. and then he fucks this hot waitress on the first date, wait what.
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On October 25 2011 06:31 Rice wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2011 05:03 Cainam wrote:I don't think anyone has proposed this yet but is it clear to anyone else that... + Show Spoiler +...Olmos' character is not real. I'm pretty sure he is dead and is somehow manifested as a part of Colin Hanks' personality, not unlike Dexter's father. He has not addressed anyone besides Hanks directly, and when they were at the restaurant he did not even have a place setting in front of him. that really doesn't explain the whole college professor who stole a sword etc etc
Spoilered for the sake of people who don't like theories:
+ Show Spoiler +I was kind of thinking something along the lines of maybe they started this thing out together and/or talked about it but somehow Olmos died (maybe Hanks did it?) and they became one. I'm not saying Olmos never existed. Just that somewhere along the way he ceased to.
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On October 25 2011 05:03 Cainam wrote:I don't think anyone has proposed this yet but is it clear to anyone else that... + Show Spoiler +...Olmos' character is not real. I'm pretty sure he is dead and is somehow manifested as a part of Colin Hanks' personality, not unlike Dexter's father. He has not addressed anyone besides Hanks directly, and when they were at the restaurant he did not even have a place setting in front of him. I didn't expect that idea at all, but man it would be simply amazing.
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On October 25 2011 03:13 Mogwai wrote:funny to me to hear so many people saying this was their favorite episode of the season when so much of this thread is bitching and moaning about plots that no one cares about. This whole episode was developing uninteresting plot lines. + Show Spoiler +1. Masuka's assistant's plotline is revealed to be about as boring as can be. 2. Bautista and Quinn smoke weed with literally no consequence. It just seemed to be shoehorned in for comedic value or something. 3. Colin Hanks fucks that waitress after the first date. WTF? This is a guy who's following EJO's psychotic orders under, presumably, a very very strong and misguided faith. Would this guy who's murdering people for some twisted view on Christianity really be the fuck-on-the-first-date type? No, come on, that seems so inconsistent with how we understand the character. 4. Dexter barely even reminds us that he's a serial killer throughout the whole episode. 5. Deb faceplants as a Leutenent and then we're told that the public totally loves that so we have to continue just dealing with the fact that she doesn't make any fucking sense in that capacity. 6. Dex sees Colin Hanks at the crime scene and can immediately pick him out as a prime suspect. Da fuck?
Uhg, I dunno, you know me, I defend Dexter in most cases, but this episode just... upset me because I like Mos and Dexter's play off each other, but everything else in the episode just felt so irrelevant and stupid to me. It's like 90% of the ep between the 4 Horsemen investigation and the Angel killing seemed irrelevant and pointless. I don't mind some filler to develop the side characters, but it was SOOOO much of this episode and between developing side characters, it was just Dex and Mos discussing faith, which while interesting, wasn't what I wanted the content between irrelevant side shit to be (I would've dealt with all this irrelevant bullshit better if Dex was stalking and killing between it, just as I would've liked Dex and Mos's religious musings better if the cops were doing cop work that would've moved the greater story along).
Inclined to agree with everything said here. I feel as though the stories are going downhill since season 4. Was very disapointed by the Masuka/Ryan plotline. I was hoping she had some connection to dexter via the ice truck killer.
On October 25 2011 05:03 Cainam wrote:I don't think anyone has proposed this yet but is it clear to anyone else that... + Show Spoiler +...Olmos' character is not real. I'm pretty sure he is dead and is somehow manifested as a part of Colin Hanks' personality, not unlike Dexter's father. He has not addressed anyone besides Hanks directly, and when they were at the restaurant he did not even have a place setting in front of him.
Wow... that's very likely. I feel like the season just got spoiled now.
Also, I like to play a game with every new season called "Who fucks Deb". My money is on the new black detective guy.
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I've thought he wasn't real for an episode or two since someone brought it up.... but I would rather he be there and real. Geller is interesting alive than dead IMO.
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On October 25 2011 05:03 Cainam wrote:I don't think anyone has proposed this yet but is it clear to anyone else that... + Show Spoiler +...Olmos' character is not real. I'm pretty sure he is dead and is somehow manifested as a part of Colin Hanks' personality, not unlike Dexter's father. He has not addressed anyone besides Hanks directly, and when they were at the restaurant he did not even have a place setting in front of him. wow nice theory. Didn't noticed all the little details, it may be true.
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one of the episodes is titled "Get Gellar" so I'm inclined to believe he's real.
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On October 25 2011 11:01 JamesJohansen wrote: Also, I like to play a game with every new season called "Who fucks Deb". My money is on the new black detective guy.
I second that theory. The sad part is it would be the 2nd black guy to fuck the lieutenant what with Doakes banging La Guerta.
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On October 25 2011 05:29 Mogwai wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2011 04:34 Fraidnot wrote:On October 25 2011 03:13 Mogwai wrote: funny to me to hear so many people saying this was their favorite episode of the season when so much of this thread is bitching and moaning about plots that no one cares about. This whole episode was developing uninteresting plot lines. That's been a problem of the show for years now. Everyone on the show is only interesting because of their relationship to Dexter. Just about everything that doesn't involve Dexter has been boring, the difference with this episode was that it was "fun." Dexter isn't going to go for the big guns, probably ever, so if I were you I wouldn't sit around waiting for the sub plots to be interesting. I wish the show did have the balls do stuff with the other characters, but it doesn't even have the guts to push even Dexter's character. They take the blue pill every time. Season 2: Lila kills Doakes for Dexter Season 3: Dexter confesses to Prado but only when he is on his table. Season 4: Killing Rita without her learning the truth Season 5: Deb walks away from discovering Dexter That's just the way it works I'm not waiting for this show to become Breaking Bad. I accept it for what it is, this last episode was just way too much of not-Dexter for me and it was the type of not-Dexter that doesn't even progress the greater plot, so it was just irritating for me. Show nested quote +On October 25 2011 05:03 Cainam wrote:I don't think anyone has proposed this yet but is it clear to anyone else that... + Show Spoiler +...Olmos' character is not real. I'm pretty sure he is dead and is somehow manifested as a part of Colin Hanks' personality, not unlike Dexter's father. He has not addressed anyone besides Hanks directly, and when they were at the restaurant he did not even have a place setting in front of him. wow, didn't really think about it, but this is a really damn good theory.
Thought it was obvious since not a single character but Hanks has acknowledged Olmos' existence. Hank's reaction at the end fuels this theory even more since it was completely out of character. Unfortunately there are some pretty massive holes in the writing if either scenario ends up to be true that won't ever be explained.
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Well guys then how did the waitress get tied up before Hank woke up in the morning?
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On October 25 2011 13:29 DoX.) wrote: Well guys then how did the waitress get tied up before Hank woke up in the morning?
He did it himself? The subconscious part that believes in the killings and is punishing him. Then he goes back to bed and wakes up as the person who liked the girl he dated.
I dunno. I actually don't believe it's just his imagination. I think there are two separate people. I'm just trying to throw out a theory.
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Dexter didnt kill anyone in that episode, right? Isnt that pretty special?
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On October 25 2011 13:29 DoX.) wrote: Well guys then how did the waitress get tied up before Hank woke up in the morning?
I noticed that the waitress didn't look at Olmos at all during that scene, not even as he was talking or when he stroked her hair. Also, the hair stroking was at the back of the head, so we didn't actually see her hair get moved by him.
At this point I would be more surprised if he were real. More likely he's a ghost in the other guy's head, kind of a head cylon if you will.
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On October 25 2011 05:19 valaki wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2011 05:03 Cainam wrote:I don't think anyone has proposed this yet but is it clear to anyone else that... + Show Spoiler +...Olmos' character is not real. I'm pretty sure he is dead and is somehow manifested as a part of Colin Hanks' personality, not unlike Dexter's father. He has not addressed anyone besides Hanks directly, and when they were at the restaurant he did not even have a place setting in front of him. Now that you mention it...in this episode he sneaked in Travis' or the girl's house then dragged her out from the bed then tied her up without waking up Travis.
Hey Quinn/Genius!, his face is on the website and they already spoke about him. I'll eat my words if they turn this into some fight club hangers.
Edit: haha everyone here jumping bandwagon on some already proven rule. People like conspiracy theories I suppose.
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