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Northern Ireland26535 Posts
On September 06 2020 11:24 Manit0u wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2020 09:15 Wombat_NornIron wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Weird because despite getting the Stormfront reference immediately for some reason I thought she was going to be the left wing supe haha. Well, the haircut and the attitude initially really.
Been rather enjoying this thus far, despite that huge misreading on my part haha.
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I guess many people's expectations will be subverted with this character. She looks, sounds and behaves really left wing with all the "grrrl pwr!" and all but then goes on to slaughter all those black families and uttering slurs at asians while killing Kimiko's brother.
+ Show Spoiler + I did like that angle, it didn’t really get enough room to breathe, things are running at breakneck speed all round.
The breadcrumbs are there. Cynical lefty clashing with Starlight who she views as a sellout, little knowing what Starlight is up to, only to herself sell out her own stated principles when it came to it or something. Instead she turns hyper violent almost too quickly for it to really be that impactful.
In general with the more established characters we’ve got to see the contrasts between their personas and their personal character, so it’s something the show in general has done pretty well.
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The show has a lot of source material to tackle. I wonder if they include the Tek Knight plotline or would they deem it too offensive. Tek Knight is basically a Batman trope but he suffers from irresistible urge to stick his penis into any hole he can find (we're counting inanimate objects too) so he has to send his Robin-equivalent in tight spandex away in order not to hurt him (his butler leaves him after getting assaulted). Later on he eventually dies while fucking a huge meteor that's crashing down on Earth. Epic.
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+ Show Spoiler +Just finished episode 3 and I'm wondering.... is this new woman in the Seven a fascist? I initially thought she was a kind of anarchist character, with the whole rebel/anti-corporation stuff and dressing pretty much in all black and with a punk-ish haircut. But that racist line and her sociopathy took me by surprise. Then I realized her name is Stormfront. That can't be a coincidence, right?
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Netherlands45349 Posts
On September 09 2020 13:48 Hollow wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Just finished episode 3 and I'm wondering.... is this new woman in the Seven a fascist? I initially thought she was a kind of anarchist character, with the whole rebel/anti-corporation stuff and dressing pretty much in all black and with a punk-ish haircut. But that racist line and her sociopathy took me by surprise. Then I realized her name is Stormfront. That can't be a coincidence, right?
+ Show Spoiler +Trailers talk about "she has an army of supes", Stormfront is based on WW2/Hitler facism iirc
So I am going to assume she will do some of that Supes should rule the world regular people are inferior thing.
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I think we can get away without using spoiler tags now.
If you read previous comments in spoilers you'd know that Stormfront is white supremacist neo-nazi 
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Yeah Manitou confirmed she was wrote in the comics as a Neo Nazi, its crazy how many changes in 3 episodes, it was like they planned to release 3 episodes first knowing how many changes in those 3 episodes, crazy!
Not long until episode 4!
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On September 10 2020 02:50 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah Manitou confirmed she was wrote in the comics as a Neo Nazi, its crazy how many changes in 3 episodes, it was like they planned to release 3 episodes first knowing how many changes in those 3 episodes, crazy!
Not long until episode 4!
Stormfront in the comics was a guy. They've supposedly gender-flipped the character because of Homelander - having a strong female character being in contention for the leadership of the Seven is going to play on his insecurities.
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Also, I really, really want them to introduce Love Sausage at some point. Behold!
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Episode 4 shows why they shouldn't really turn this into a once-per-week show. It's pretty slow and very much just a "filler" episode, expanding on some lore and backgrounds but without that much actually happening. I like episodes like that when I move on to the next one instantly but watching it on its own was kinda meh.
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
True, but it was also very fucked up the way it started and ended lol. Maybe they should have done 3 episodes a week type deal with it, as i thought the first 3 were like that, where episode 1 and 2 were good but not amazing then huge crazy stuff happens episode 3.
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The whole point of episode 4 imho - was to show us step by step a process behind Homelander's meltdown, and maybe the reasons plus motivation for the Boys to continue their holy crusade on Vought.
Homelander on the other hand is so organic, he delivers the same type of emotions as Joffrey did O.o I guess in more frightening way.
Does it feel like Butcher is even more australian this season for some reason?
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Stormfront is such a confusing character. On one hand, "fuck this commercialized girl power bullshit, who cares if we have a dick or a vag" and "Pippi longstocking is the best superhero", on the other hand
+ Show Spoiler +kills innocent civilians when chasing down the supe terrorist, and murders a black dude in cold blood in the flashback
I mean, I get that the 'bad stuff' plays in to white supremacy, but why give her a feminist slant at all?
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I find it really tough to swallow the showrunner's claims they wanted a serialized season. You just have to look at the amount of merch Amazon is pushing concurrently to see how much more profitable this setup is for Amazon.
On September 15 2020 10:39 Fleetfeet wrote:Stormfront is such a confusing character. On one hand, "fuck this commercialized girl power bullshit, who cares if we have a dick or a vag" and "Pippi longstocking is the best superhero", on the other hand + Show Spoiler +kills innocent civilians when chasing down the supe terrorist, and murders a black dude in cold blood in the flashback I mean, I get that the 'bad stuff' plays in to white supremacy, but why give her a feminist slant at all?
I think it really depends how you want to view it. I see it as a condemnation of "with it" and "hip" and "progressive" branding from million dollar media conglomerates or mega-celebrities that is just designed to increase consumption and move product rather than out of any innate desire to improve the world or belief in progressive ideas. Stormfront is just a character some (awful) woman with lightning powers adopted to improve her wealth and power. That character talks that way in public appearances because she figured it was the best way to get wealth and power, not because she has any real belief in what she says. If the cultural zeitgeist said women should stay in the kitchen, she'd be the team mom using her lightning powers to make cookies.
It gibes well with the overall message of The Boys, which is that the powerful can conceal their private vices via good public perception.
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Northern Ireland26535 Posts
On September 15 2020 16:43 TheTenthDoc wrote:I find it really tough to swallow the showrunner's claims they wanted a serialized season. You just have to look at the amount of merch Amazon is pushing concurrently to see how much more profitable this setup is for Amazon. Show nested quote +On September 15 2020 10:39 Fleetfeet wrote:Stormfront is such a confusing character. On one hand, "fuck this commercialized girl power bullshit, who cares if we have a dick or a vag" and "Pippi longstocking is the best superhero", on the other hand + Show Spoiler +kills innocent civilians when chasing down the supe terrorist, and murders a black dude in cold blood in the flashback I mean, I get that the 'bad stuff' plays in to white supremacy, but why give her a feminist slant at all? I think it really depends how you want to view it. I see it as a condemnation of "with it" and "hip" and "progressive" branding from million dollar media conglomerates or mega-celebrities that is just designed to increase consumption and move product rather than out of any innate desire to improve the world or belief in progressive ideas. Stormfront is just a character some (awful) woman with lightning powers adopted to improve her wealth and power. That character talks that way in public appearances because she figured it was the best way to get wealth and power, not because she has any real belief in what she says. If the cultural zeitgeist said women should stay in the kitchen, she'd be the team mom using her lightning powers to make cookies. It gibes well with the overall message of The Boys, which is that the powerful can conceal their private vices via good public perception.
Yeah I found her initially a bit confusing in this domain but that angle makes a lot more sense with the revelations of her origins
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On September 15 2020 16:43 TheTenthDoc wrote:I find it really tough to swallow the showrunner's claims they wanted a serialized season. You just have to look at the amount of merch Amazon is pushing concurrently to see how much more profitable this setup is for Amazon. Show nested quote +On September 15 2020 10:39 Fleetfeet wrote:Stormfront is such a confusing character. On one hand, "fuck this commercialized girl power bullshit, who cares if we have a dick or a vag" and "Pippi longstocking is the best superhero", on the other hand + Show Spoiler +kills innocent civilians when chasing down the supe terrorist, and murders a black dude in cold blood in the flashback I mean, I get that the 'bad stuff' plays in to white supremacy, but why give her a feminist slant at all? I think it really depends how you want to view it. I see it as a condemnation of "with it" and "hip" and "progressive" branding from million dollar media conglomerates or mega-celebrities that is just designed to increase consumption and move product rather than out of any innate desire to improve the world or belief in progressive ideas. Stormfront is just a character some (awful) woman with lightning powers adopted to improve her wealth and power. That character talks that way in public appearances because she figured it was the best way to get wealth and power, not because she has any real belief in what she says. If the cultural zeitgeist said women should stay in the kitchen, she'd be the team mom using her lightning powers to make cookies. It gibes well with the overall message of The Boys, which is that the powerful can conceal their private vices via good public perception.
Yeah this is how I understood it. She's still Nazi Liberty, she's just hiding it to gain power, and fame. To what end exactly I'm not entirely sure, but it should be interesting to see. Homelander on the other hand is simply phenomenal, and in my opinion even better this season.
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While the acting is phenomenal, i'll be sad if they don't end up follow his comic story.
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On September 18 2020 03:28 Erasme wrote:
While the acting is phenomenal, i'll be sad if they don't end up follow his comic story.
I haven't started watching season 2 yet, but even in season 1 the series was already very different from the comics, and honestly I loved this. The boys being on the run, them having a hard time physically fighting back (well, in the comics the were kind of OP) and the change to the Butcher and his backstory are all great, so I'll gladly go where the showrunners lead.
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Episode 5 is nasty (in a good way) 
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On September 18 2020 13:39 Sbrubbles wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2020 03:28 Erasme wrote:
While the acting is phenomenal, i'll be sad if they don't end up follow his comic story. I haven't started watching season 2 yet, but even in season 1 the series was already very different from the comics, and honestly I loved this. The boys being on the run, them having a hard time physically fighting back (well, in the comics the were kind of OP) and the change to the Butcher and his backstory are all great, so I'll gladly go where the showrunners lead.
+ Show Spoiler +Ay, but it wouldn't necessary go against the direction the show is taking. Btw i'm talking about how Butcher is the one that makes Homelander go "evil".
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Yeah ok episode 5 was good, liked the building up of the story and the end scene is just hahahaa.
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I wish they would just throw all the interpersonal drama out. I don't give a shit about relationships in movies / TV. Just advance the plot, FFS.
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