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Manit0u
Poland17031 Posts
Hype! | ||
Dav1oN
Ukraine3159 Posts
Also, poor aquaman... :D got rekt in a cool way once again | ||
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Edpayasugo
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Manit0u
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FaCE_1
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Erasme
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More graphic tho | ||
Manit0u
Poland17031 Posts
On August 10 2020 22:17 Erasme wrote: If you can't wait, it's based on a comic of the same name More graphic tho Well, TV show and comic diverge quite a bit even in the first season. I like it though, keeps you interested and it does its source material justice. | ||
Hyperbola
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KOFgokuon
United States14882 Posts
can't wait to do the same for season 2 | ||
Manit0u
Poland17031 Posts
On August 29 2020 11:51 KOFgokuon wrote: I took a "sick day" and pounded through all of season 1 can't wait to do the same for season 2 Hold up on that front. From what I've heard they're going to release 3 episodes initially and then one each week... This sucks as I wanted to binge it like I did with the first season. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51300 Posts
homelander anymore stormkeeper does that. | ||
Manit0u
Poland17031 Posts
On September 05 2020 21:01 Pandemona wrote: This show is so fucked up haha, just when i think i can't hate + Show Spoiler + homelander anymore stormkeeper does that. + Show Spoiler + It's Stormfront, not Stormkeeper Her name is such a great play on words because of the double meaning: her lightning powers and a name of a racist neo-nazi forum (in the comics Stormfront was a full on nazi dude). | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51300 Posts
On September 05 2020 21:40 Manit0u wrote: + Show Spoiler + It's Stormfront, not Stormkeeper Her name is such a great play on words because of the double meaning: her lightning powers and a name of a racist neo-nazi forum (in the comics Stormfront was a full on nazi dude). + Show Spoiler + Oh right haha jesus yeah when she killed kimiko's brother and said the asian slur i was like jesus christ this is getting even crazier lol. Now we wait week by week to see how the rest of the series plays out | ||
WombaT
Northern Ireland20509 Posts
Weird because despite getting the Stormfront reference immediately for some reason I thought she was going to be the left wing supe haha. Well, the haircut and the attitude initially really. Been rather enjoying this thus far, despite that huge misreading on my part haha. | ||
Husyelt
United States671 Posts
It's still great fun though, and I can get my Anasûrimbor Kellhus fix through Homelander. And who doesn't enjoy an anti-soup show to contrast the sludge that MCU or DCEU. | ||
Manit0u
Poland17031 Posts
On September 06 2020 09:15 Wombat_NornIron wrote: + Show Spoiler + Weird because despite getting the Stormfront reference immediately for some reason I thought she was going to be the left wing supe haha. Well, the haircut and the attitude initially really. Been rather enjoying this thus far, despite that huge misreading on my part haha. + Show Spoiler + I guess many people's expectations will be subverted with this character. She looks, sounds and behaves really left wing with all the "grrrl pwr!" and all but then goes on to slaughter all those black families and uttering slurs at asians while killing Kimiko's brother. | ||
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WombaT
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On September 06 2020 11:24 Manit0u wrote: + Show Spoiler + I guess many people's expectations will be subverted with this character. She looks, sounds and behaves really left wing with all the "grrrl pwr!" and all but then goes on to slaughter all those black families and uttering slurs at asians while killing Kimiko's brother. + Show Spoiler + I did like that angle, it didn’t really get enough room to breathe, things are running at breakneck speed all round. The breadcrumbs are there. Cynical lefty clashing with Starlight who she views as a sellout, little knowing what Starlight is up to, only to herself sell out her own stated principles when it came to it or something. Instead she turns hyper violent almost too quickly for it to really be that impactful. In general with the more established characters we’ve got to see the contrasts between their personas and their personal character, so it’s something the show in general has done pretty well. | ||
Manit0u
Poland17031 Posts
+ Show Spoiler [NSFW?] + | ||
Hollow
Canada2173 Posts
Just finished episode 3 and I'm wondering.... is this new woman in the Seven a fascist? I initially thought she was a kind of anarchist character, with the whole rebel/anti-corporation stuff and dressing pretty much in all black and with a punk-ish haircut. But that racist line and her sociopathy took me by surprise. Then I realized her name is Stormfront. That can't be a coincidence, right? | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
On September 09 2020 13:48 Hollow wrote: + Show Spoiler + Just finished episode 3 and I'm wondering.... is this new woman in the Seven a fascist? I initially thought she was a kind of anarchist character, with the whole rebel/anti-corporation stuff and dressing pretty much in all black and with a punk-ish haircut. But that racist line and her sociopathy took me by surprise. Then I realized her name is Stormfront. That can't be a coincidence, right? + Show Spoiler + Trailers talk about "she has an army of supes", Stormfront is based on WW2/Hitler facism iirc So I am going to assume she will do some of that Supes should rule the world regular people are inferior thing. | ||
Manit0u
Poland17031 Posts
If you read previous comments in spoilers you'd know that Stormfront is white supremacist neo-nazi | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51300 Posts
Not long until episode 4! | ||
Manit0u
Poland17031 Posts
On September 10 2020 02:50 Pandemona wrote: Yeah Manitou confirmed she was wrote in the comics as a Neo Nazi, its crazy how many changes in 3 episodes, it was like they planned to release 3 episodes first knowing how many changes in those 3 episodes, crazy! Not long until episode 4! Stormfront in the comics was a guy. They've supposedly gender-flipped the character because of Homelander - having a strong female character being in contention for the leadership of the Seven is going to play on his insecurities. Edit: Also, I really, really want them to introduce Love Sausage at some point. Behold! | ||
Manit0u
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Pandemona
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Dav1oN
Ukraine3159 Posts
Homelander on the other hand is so organic, he delivers the same type of emotions as Joffrey did O.o I guess in more frightening way. Does it feel like Butcher is even more australian this season for some reason? | ||
Fleetfeet
Canada2171 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + kills innocent civilians when chasing down the supe terrorist, and murders a black dude in cold blood in the flashback I mean, I get that the 'bad stuff' plays in to white supremacy, but why give her a feminist slant at all? | ||
TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On September 15 2020 10:39 Fleetfeet wrote: Stormfront is such a confusing character. On one hand, "fuck this commercialized girl power bullshit, who cares if we have a dick or a vag" and "Pippi longstocking is the best superhero", on the other hand + Show Spoiler + kills innocent civilians when chasing down the supe terrorist, and murders a black dude in cold blood in the flashback I mean, I get that the 'bad stuff' plays in to white supremacy, but why give her a feminist slant at all? I think it really depends how you want to view it. I see it as a condemnation of "with it" and "hip" and "progressive" branding from million dollar media conglomerates or mega-celebrities that is just designed to increase consumption and move product rather than out of any innate desire to improve the world or belief in progressive ideas. Stormfront is just a character some (awful) woman with lightning powers adopted to improve her wealth and power. That character talks that way in public appearances because she figured it was the best way to get wealth and power, not because she has any real belief in what she says. If the cultural zeitgeist said women should stay in the kitchen, she'd be the team mom using her lightning powers to make cookies. It gibes well with the overall message of The Boys, which is that the powerful can conceal their private vices via good public perception. | ||
WombaT
Northern Ireland20509 Posts
On September 15 2020 16:43 TheTenthDoc wrote: I find it really tough to swallow the showrunner's claims they wanted a serialized season. You just have to look at the amount of merch Amazon is pushing concurrently to see how much more profitable this setup is for Amazon. I think it really depends how you want to view it. I see it as a condemnation of "with it" and "hip" and "progressive" branding from million dollar media conglomerates or mega-celebrities that is just designed to increase consumption and move product rather than out of any innate desire to improve the world or belief in progressive ideas. Stormfront is just a character some (awful) woman with lightning powers adopted to improve her wealth and power. That character talks that way in public appearances because she figured it was the best way to get wealth and power, not because she has any real belief in what she says. If the cultural zeitgeist said women should stay in the kitchen, she'd be the team mom using her lightning powers to make cookies. It gibes well with the overall message of The Boys, which is that the powerful can conceal their private vices via good public perception. Yeah I found her initially a bit confusing in this domain but that angle makes a lot more sense with the revelations of her origins | ||
Cricketer12
United States13806 Posts
On September 15 2020 16:43 TheTenthDoc wrote: I find it really tough to swallow the showrunner's claims they wanted a serialized season. You just have to look at the amount of merch Amazon is pushing concurrently to see how much more profitable this setup is for Amazon. I think it really depends how you want to view it. I see it as a condemnation of "with it" and "hip" and "progressive" branding from million dollar media conglomerates or mega-celebrities that is just designed to increase consumption and move product rather than out of any innate desire to improve the world or belief in progressive ideas. Stormfront is just a character some (awful) woman with lightning powers adopted to improve her wealth and power. That character talks that way in public appearances because she figured it was the best way to get wealth and power, not because she has any real belief in what she says. If the cultural zeitgeist said women should stay in the kitchen, she'd be the team mom using her lightning powers to make cookies. It gibes well with the overall message of The Boys, which is that the powerful can conceal their private vices via good public perception. Yeah this is how I understood it. She's still Nazi Liberty, she's just hiding it to gain power, and fame. To what end exactly I'm not entirely sure, but it should be interesting to see. Homelander on the other hand is simply phenomenal, and in my opinion even better this season. | ||
Erasme
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Sbrubbles
Brazil5763 Posts
On September 18 2020 03:28 Erasme wrote: While the acting is phenomenal, i'll be sad if they don't end up follow his comic story. I haven't started watching season 2 yet, but even in season 1 the series was already very different from the comics, and honestly I loved this. The boys being on the run, them having a hard time physically fighting back (well, in the comics the were kind of OP) and the change to the Butcher and his backstory are all great, so I'll gladly go where the showrunners lead. | ||
Manit0u
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Erasme
Bahamas15892 Posts
On September 18 2020 13:39 Sbrubbles wrote: I haven't started watching season 2 yet, but even in season 1 the series was already very different from the comics, and honestly I loved this. The boys being on the run, them having a hard time physically fighting back (well, in the comics the were kind of OP) and the change to the Butcher and his backstory are all great, so I'll gladly go where the showrunners lead. + Show Spoiler + Ay, but it wouldn't necessary go against the direction the show is taking. Btw i'm talking about how Butcher is the one that makes Homelander go "evil". | ||
Pandemona
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Hyperbola
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Cricketer12
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On September 19 2020 22:16 Pandemona wrote: Yeah ok episode 5 was good, liked the building up of the story and the end scene is just hahahaa. Especially since + Show Spoiler + they look like they are heading towards stormfront being homelander's mom | ||
dmnum
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looks like manit0u got his wish. | ||
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Magic Powers
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After the first few episodes I'm no longer hyped. I quit, hope you guys can still enjoy it. | ||
Manit0u
Poland17031 Posts
On September 25 2020 16:51 Magic Powers wrote: Was hyped for season 2. After the first few episodes I'm no longer hyped. I quit, hope you guys can still enjoy it. Do you have any particular reason why your hype died down so much that you quit the show? @dmnum: It's not really the Love Sausage from the comic, but it was an interesting twist on him. | ||
Magic Powers
Austria2579 Posts
Season 2 is predictable. Charismatic good girl who's actually the complete opposite, a Nazi villain. Totally didn't see that coming from a mile away, yawn. And somehow Homelander is powerless against her but not against anyone else. What's that all about? And he gets completely fooled by Starlight? How? He behaves like a retard. Season 1 it was impossible to bluff him. He keeps getting bluffed over and over in season 2. And his milk fetish? We've already known about that for most of season 1, and now these scenes are literally in every episode, and I have no idea for what reason. If it's a setup, it's the longest repetition of a setup I've ever seen (which is something that I can't stand about modern TV shows, that's why I don't watch any. Season 1 largely avoided that, most payoffs came at the right time and the setups didn't overstay their welcome). I'm also getting incredibly bored, there are too many diverging plot lines happening and none of them are being followed through properly or connected to the main plot. It feels more like I'm watching side quests and not the main show. It's all over the place. Not interested in such a mess. | ||
Hyperbola
United States2512 Posts
All of the writing is taken straight from the most widely used clichés: 1. "I'm gonna kill you!" "But I'm sad." "Okay I won't kill you we're friends now." 2. "I hate you!" "No wait this crisis has brought us together we're friends now." 3. "I'm am nothing like you!... but actually I am." Literally the entire cast is just taking turns either loving or hating eachother. One episode the asian girl hates frenchie, the next she loves him. One episode Hughie hates butcher, now they both love eachother. Homelander and Stormfront go from love to hate back to love in this ONE episode. Like what the fuck is going on here? Did the writers all get fired? Is there a strike going on? Here's what I predict: Lamplighter is gonna sacrifice himself somehow, Stormfront is gonna die somehow, Vought will be taken down and Gus Fring will be taken out of commission and the head of the Church is going to take over as the main villain. I haven't read the comics at all so I'm just going off of writing clichés here. We'll see how much I get right. | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51300 Posts
I liked the history behind Stormfront this episode though her story being played out was nice and Frenchie background was good, i do admit was a bit cliche and weak the butcher/starlight scenes, but i dont mind the homelander and stormfront version because it just shows how easy it is to manipulate homelander because he is a so naive. | ||
Cricketer12
United States13806 Posts
On September 26 2020 21:44 Pandemona wrote: If they have signed up for multiple seasons i dont think vought is going anyway and if anything season 2 will just play the church into contention of some power for season 3. I think the killing off Stormfront is the only set thing but hey maybe they swing that out, and she stays and someone else dies. I liked the history behind Stormfront this episode though her story being played out was nice and Frenchie background was good, i do admit was a bit cliche and weak the butcher/starlight scenes, but i dont mind the homelander and stormfront version because it just shows how easy it is to manipulate homelander because he is a so naive. Im honestly just surprised they haven't gone for the Stormfront is mom theory. | ||
Pandemona
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N.geNuity
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Velr
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Really didn't like 1-2, was bored out of i mind. it picked up after but more for "spectacle" reasons... I really enjoyed it but for much different reasons than the truely awesome S1, its not lost/gone yet... But it very well could kill itself fast. ... Starlights usefullness reminds me of the naruto girl... | ||
Decimator
Mexico31 Posts
I'm still enjoying/watching the show but I'm no longer hyped. | ||
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VioleTAK
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TheTenthDoc
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Manit0u
Poland17031 Posts
The biggest problem with this show currently is the fact that the stakes just aren't there. I do like me some character development and drama but not when it's done in the void. It seems that the only struggles people are facing this season are ones that they put themselves into willingly, knowing what will happen. There's no real sense of dread or urgency like when they kidnapped Translucent in the first season and Homelander was searching for them. The team simply isn't pushed or cornered so they just ramble about poor living conditions when on the run (although it seems they can just walk/drive wherever they want and when they want so not much for being on the lam either) and how it makes them depressed. I need a bit more substance than that to keep me going. Otherwise I might just wait a month or two and binge the rest of the series (if I'll still remember to do it) because this pace is not for me in a show like that. | ||
Cricketer12
United States13806 Posts
On September 30 2020 09:20 Manit0u wrote: I agree. This show isn't really meant to be watched on a weekly basis since it's not a show where some slow episodes actually do it any good. I don't mean for it to be non-stop action, but if you're going to drop an episode each week then something significant should happen in each of those episodes (preferably not at the very end) otherwise people will begin to lose interest. The biggest problem with this show currently is the fact that the stakes just aren't there. I do like me some character development and drama but not when it's done in the void. It seems that the only struggles people are facing this season are ones that they put themselves into willingly, knowing what will happen. There's no real sense of dread or urgency like when they kidnapped Translucent in the first season and Homelander was searching for them. The team simply isn't pushed or cornered so they just ramble about poor living conditions when on the run (although it seems they can just walk/drive wherever they want and when they want so not much for being on the lam either) and how it makes them depressed. I need a bit more substance than that to keep me going. Otherwise I might just wait a month or two and binge the rest of the series (if I'll still remember to do it) because this pace is not for me in a show like that. Stuff like this has been a problem with the show for some time. Nothing has come close to encapsulating the feeling of those scenes | ||
Manit0u
Poland17031 Posts
I mean, if the character that's supposed to be the vessel for the audience doesn't give a damn or care if he lives or dies, why should we? | ||
Fleetfeet
Canada2171 Posts
Or Butcher having to become a super, or whatever this turns in to. Basically, it not being a 'from birth only' thing opens up all kinds of shitty plot directions imo | ||
Manit0u
Poland17031 Posts
On September 30 2020 17:22 Fleetfeet wrote: I'm un-excited for the potential "We can inject compound V! Oh shit we need to make Hughie a super now to save him but wait let's have some emotional tension from Starlight and Butcher who are worried about him dying in the process or becoming a supe respectively" Or Butcher having to become a super, or whatever this turns in to. Basically, it not being a 'from birth only' thing opens up all kinds of shitty plot directions imo + Show Spoiler + It made more sense in the comics. There was not that much mystery about compound V there and the boys were injecting themselves with it almost from the get-go to fuck up some supes (Hughie even killed one accidentally). Injecting V as an adult there gave you super strength and resilience but for a limited time, nothing more fancy than that. | ||
Fleetfeet
Canada2171 Posts
On September 30 2020 19:34 Manit0u wrote: + Show Spoiler + It made more sense in the comics. There was not that much mystery about compound V there and the boys were injecting themselves with it almost from the get-go to fuck up some supes (Hughie even killed one accidentally). Injecting V as an adult there gave you super strength and resilience but for a limited time, nothing more fancy than that. That -does- make more sense. We'll see what they do with it in the show. | ||
Erasme
Bahamas15892 Posts
On September 30 2020 17:22 Fleetfeet wrote: I'm un-excited for the potential "We can inject compound V! Oh shit we need to make Hughie a super now to save him but wait let's have some emotional tension from Starlight and Butcher who are worried about him dying in the process or becoming a supe respectively" Or Butcher having to become a super, or whatever this turns in to. Basically, it not being a 'from birth only' thing opens up all kinds of shitty plot directions imo It already is with Kimiko and other super terrorists. They were taken when they were already adults/teens. | ||
TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + I certainly did not see the end of episode 7 coming. Not in that way at least. | ||
Husyelt
United States671 Posts
The Boys would be better imo if it were slower and grounded itself more in this realistic world, instead of using the realism for laughs and absurdity. It's almost like the series is trying to be Kick-Ass mixed with Buffy the Vampire Slayer, when it should just choose one or the other. There is so much globetrotting and side plots which is fine and all, but at the end of the day this is supposedly the real gritty world with GPS and Big Brother, let alone Super Vision Homelander. The Boys just waltz into the Seven skyscraper or battle it out, and then return in a unmarked van to a bunker in every episode it seems. Which is sort of the issue I had with The Walking Dead S3 onwards. Zombies were just fodder and characters just teleported around depending on which way the plot's wind blew. | ||
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Cricketer12
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On October 03 2020 09:24 Hyperbola wrote: Who do you guys think is the head exploder? I think it's Gus Fring. Church guy | ||
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Hyperbola
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On October 03 2020 12:00 MajuGarzett wrote: I thought it was the girl from the mental hospital? Nah, she was still locked up when the CIA girl got blown up in episode 1. Also, if it was her, we'd see her face at the end of the episode, the fact that we haven't means the reveal of who it is is meant to be a surprise. | ||
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Pandemona
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RaiKageRyu
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This could be very much it. The Church storyline's gotta be building to something and if you think of it another way The Church is just protecting their own interest. You thought that early FBI agent died to protect Stormfront but it was most likely so the terrorist would remain afloat to make way for the Deep to save the day. And this time it was to make sure Vought stayed afloat so that their plan to infiltrate the Seven would continue with the Leader of the Church using this favor as his bargaining chip with Edgar. | ||
Cricketer12
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On October 04 2020 14:04 Fleetfeet wrote: Gus Fring would make sense, because whoever it is is trying basically exclusively to protect Vought. We'll see! My only problem with Fring is how little we see him. I hope he features a lot in the finale | ||
Pandemona
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scrotesque
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From the moment the FBI ladies head exploded I always assumed it was some mechanism like an explosive payload that Vaught is putting into people they have leverage over or in their pockets. They need some safety mechanism against the Supes, so they implant them with chips that can explode when Vaught wants them to. That would explain why Edgar is so confident when dealing with Homelander as well. | ||
Husyelt
United States671 Posts
On October 06 2020 00:42 scrotesque wrote: Is there anything in particular that makes us believe the head exploding thing is even a super power? From the moment the FBI ladies head exploded I always assumed it was some mechanism like an explosive payload that Vaught is putting into people they have leverage over or in their pockets. They need some safety mechanism against the Supes, so they implant them with chips that can explode when Vaught wants them to. That would explain why Edgar is so confident when dealing with Homelander as well. That’s what I figured as well. The bleeding noses makes more sense to me as in this small mechanism initiates and then goes off. Where as we’ve seen the crazy Eleven like girl in the hospital can explode people in an instant. | ||
Erasme
Bahamas15892 Posts
On October 06 2020 00:42 scrotesque wrote: Is there anything in particular that makes us believe the head exploding thing is even a super power? From the moment the FBI ladies head exploded I always assumed it was some mechanism like an explosive payload that Vaught is putting into people they have leverage over or in their pockets. They need some safety mechanism against the Supes, so they implant them with chips that can explode when Vaught wants them to. That would explain why Edgar is so confident when dealing with Homelander as well. Wouldn't people know if you did that kind of surgery on them ? They'd be aware and this congress hearing wouldn't have happened ? What more, if you blow the heads of the people who you bought, who is going to help you once it calms down ? | ||
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Pandemona
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Still good thinking about that because like you said the FBI ladies nose was bleeding before it went boom, unlike in the court room where they just went boom. Nutty show. | ||
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Manit0u
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On October 06 2020 07:04 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote: Just watched the latest/last episode. I'm done until I get credible confirmation the show isn't shite next season. At this point you might just as well watch the next episode since it's going to be last one this season. | ||
Hyperbola
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Can anyone explain? | ||
Cricketer12
United States13806 Posts
On October 08 2020 08:26 Hyperbola wrote: Are all superheroes bullet proof? Starlight, Maeve, Translucent, and Homelander are confirmed but what about everyone else? Is lamplighter bullet proof? I remember the CIA lady threatening him with a gun a couple episodes back like it meant something, so I guess he's not? But then in the intro scene to episode 7 the fat guy asks if the store clerk is bullet proof, as if it's a common feature to all superheroes? But then why did he even point a gun at him in the first place? Can anyone explain? Some are some aren't. If I had to guess the store clerk thing was part of the very obvious real-world analogy they were making and it was referencing lack of information. | ||
Manit0u
Poland17031 Posts
+ Show Spoiler [what bothered me] + How did Maeve get to the place when she did? How did she know when and where to go? Also, after ep7 the big Black Noir reveal is gone I think. + Show Spoiler [BN comic info] + I guess I could've thought about it before since he's being played by a black actor. In any case, in the comics BN is a Homelander clone (and it was him who actually raped Becca) and Vought's insurance in case of Homie going batshit crazy. | ||
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RaiKageRyu
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RowdierBob
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+ Show Spoiler + Her eyes go all Bran Stark white when blowing up ppl’s heads yet this clearly wasn’t the case when she was in the hearing room. | ||
Hyperbola
United States2512 Posts
The rest of the episode was pretty meh... I mean what's stopping Homelander from just killing Meave, killing Butcher, and taking his son with him? Can Meave really post that video quicker than Homelander can fry her hand off? Also I guess Stormfront is also bullet proof. I wish the show would establish who is and who isn't ahead of time. | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + I hate kids in these shows more then often, I wish they would just park him there for the next season and uhm forget about him. | ||
Erasme
Bahamas15892 Posts
The end result is that Vought gets fucked, the church gets fucked, who wins ? | ||
Husyelt
United States671 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Was hoping for Starlight to supercharge off of Stormfront's energy and murder her. I would also love to see someone like Mathew Vaughn direct one of these episodes to punch up the action. On October 10 2020 06:48 Erasme wrote: So is the congresswoman in bed with vought ? The end result is that Vought gets fucked, the church gets fucked, who wins ? The politics and agendas are the weakest link of the show I have no idea. I am just assuming Vought will always be the true big bad to take down. | ||
Erasme
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Like even if she's the head of it, what's the end game ? | ||
Cricketer12
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On October 10 2020 07:07 Erasme wrote: Then something more precise, what does the congresswoman stands to gain by creating a supe's supervision agency? Like even if she's the head of it, what's the end game ? If she can make it look like the division is just a witch hunt? Vilify the very notion of negative emotion towards Vought/Supes in the public eye? | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On October 10 2020 07:07 Erasme wrote: Then something more precise, what does the congresswoman stands to gain by creating a supe's supervision agency? Like even if she's the head of it, what's the end game ? Keep in mind that Edgar/core Vought never wanted the compound V news to leak. Plus, I think Homelander kind of forced their hand with the supervillains. Once those two things happened, they knew they had to do something, and so they started creating some controlled opposition in the congresswoman. They also didn't want Stormfront to go live with the big compound V push just yet, and probably also wanted her out of the way because they knew multiple people had compromising material on her. Now they've crushed a loose cannon and they have control of the only government agency that ostensibly has any meaningful power over them. It's less a masterful plan and more damage control. In the process they now have control over the shadow operations designed to control Supes (the Boys). | ||
N.geNuity
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nojok
France15836 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
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Fleetfeet
Canada2171 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States13806 Posts
On October 12 2020 03:05 Fleetfeet wrote: In hindsight there was a missed joke opportunity with the "Brave Maeve Rainbow Veggie Burger" and not the "Brave Maeve Fish Taco" could have kept the rainbow in there to reference a 10/10 childrens book | ||
Fleetfeet
Canada2171 Posts
On October 12 2020 03:15 Cricketer12 wrote: could have kept the rainbow in there to reference a 10/10 childrens book Oh? I dunno that reference. What's it from? | ||
Cricketer12
United States13806 Posts
On October 12 2020 03:18 Fleetfeet wrote: Oh? I dunno that reference. What's it from? The Rainbow Fish. A childrens book | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51300 Posts
Having Homelander back to what he was before makes sense i didn't mind the ending with him, i get he could have just killed everyone aka butcher and maeve and fly off, but the "people wont cheer your name anymore" ego was an acceptable way for that to settle itself. Wonder where season 3 goes though, i mean yes we have the congress woman but then what? Homelander going to spiral out of control at one point again? Is Deep going to go crazy as he was very pissed off at the end? | ||
Manit0u
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Fleetfeet
Canada2171 Posts
Lmao, would be great. As for next season, I think we just get people vying for control over Ryan. Vought wants it because it represents control over Homelander, whom they currently don't have any way to control as far as we know, and homelander / butcher want control for more direct reasons. The boys / deep / the seven are all kind of free agents and not tied down by a fight for Ryan, so I'm curious what we'll get from them, if that is the direction season 3 goes. We also don't -know- that stormfront is dead I think. I hope we don't get any kind of rebuilt stormfront, but ehh worse things could happen. | ||
Cricketer12
United States13806 Posts
On October 12 2020 11:31 Fleetfeet wrote: Lmao, would be great. As for next season, I think we just get people vying for control over Ryan. Vought wants it because it represents control over Homelander, whom they currently don't have any way to control as far as we know, and homelander / butcher want control for more direct reasons. The boys / deep / the seven are all kind of free agents and not tied down by a fight for Ryan, so I'm curious what we'll get from them, if that is the direction season 3 goes. We also don't -know- that stormfront is dead I think. I hope we don't get any kind of rebuilt stormfront, but ehh worse things could happen. I'm pretty sure she's still alive, what they could possibly do with her at this stage I have no idea, but maybe homelander wasn't lying when he said they have her detained somewhere | ||
Erasme
Bahamas15892 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51300 Posts
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Trainrunnef
United States599 Posts
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thePunGun
598 Posts
*(His trademark, Stormfront is male in the novel and his eye gets ripped out iirc) I also don't think Homelander would know if she was still alive. As we all know, Vought's deliberately keeping things from him, that might upset him or undermine their control over him. | ||
Manit0u
Poland17031 Posts
On October 14 2020 08:31 thePunGun wrote: Stormfront is most likely still alive, since she's just lost her eye, which is kinda her* 'trademark' in the graphic novel. *(His trademark, Stormfront is male in the novel and his eye gets ripped out iirc) I also don't think Homelander would know if she was still alive. As we all know, Vought's deliberately keeping things from him, that might upset him or undermine their control over him. She lost her eye and three of her limbs... | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10406 Posts
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Manit0u
Poland17031 Posts
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Redox
Germany24792 Posts
On October 11 2020 02:42 N.geNuity wrote: I didnt like the last episode battle but eh, they closed some items they needed to and may get to be more of a political thriller than only The Boys running around vs the seven, which is needed for series longevity. The fight of the 4 girls was so lame. :D So many cuts to make sure you could not actually see any of their movements. I get it, they are not martial artists. But they could have at least trained a little to be able to make some decent punches / kicks on camera. Btw Stormfront's action scenes have always been bad. She looks so silly when she throws her lightning and stuff. You can see this is not a strength of the actress. | ||
Redox
Germany24792 Posts
Oh and Antony Starr is just spectacular. It is fun to rewind and just focus on his face, it is amazing. Maybe they went a bit too far with the character though. I wonder where they can even go from here, it was already so over the top. | ||
Dav1oN
Ukraine3159 Posts
On October 15 2020 00:05 Redox wrote: The fight of the 4 girls was so lame. :D So many cuts to make sure you could not actually see any of their movements. I get it, they are not martial artists. But they could have at least trained a little to be able to make some decent punches / kicks on camera. Btw Stormfront's action scenes have always been bad. She looks so silly when she throws her lightning and stuff. You can see this is not a strength of the actress. Yea, they had to cut it this way to make the fight look better, imagine how many hours all those actors must spend on choreography in order to make it look convenient (like the very first duel from the first Matrix movie between Neo and Morpheus), especially w/o special training or sports background (aka captain america is an ex dancer). Also this is the case with many other TV shows, even The Witcher had a few bad fight scenes which makes no sens from dueling point of view. One of the episodes of "Stuntmen react to bad and great stunts" series by Corridor Crew discussed a scene from S1 with Maeve training session, they pointed out a number of cuts Overall they do have a very recommended content, since they provide so many insights and specific details about movie/video production from different points of view (VFX, stunts, production, etc). | ||
Hyperbola
United States2512 Posts
On October 15 2020 00:05 Redox wrote: The fight of the 4 girls was so lame. :D So many cuts to make sure you could not actually see any of their movements. I get it, they are not martial artists. But they could have at least trained a little to be able to make some decent punches / kicks on camera. Btw Stormfront's action scenes have always been bad. She looks so silly when she throws her lightning and stuff. You can see this is not a strength of the actress. Yeah Stromfront's actress was really bad this season. She was not convincing as a 100 year old Nazi whatsoever. She had way too much of a valley girl vibe with passive aggressive comments and sarcasm. Her racist speeches also seemed really disingenuous, like she didn't believe what she was saying at all and was forced to say those lines. The actress came off more as a teenage girl pretending to be an evil villain (which makes sense because that's exactly what she was doing). | ||
Manit0u
Poland17031 Posts
Could've been an interesting angle. | ||
Erasme
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Manit0u
Poland17031 Posts
Kinda how you train some martial arts and it's all cool and well when in a controlled environment but then you get into a real fight in the street and realize it is nothing like that. | ||
Pandemona
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WombaT
Northern Ireland20509 Posts
On October 15 2020 09:54 Hyperbola wrote: Yeah Stromfront's actress was really bad this season. She was not convincing as a 100 year old Nazi whatsoever. She had way too much of a valley girl vibe with passive aggressive comments and sarcasm. Her racist speeches also seemed really disingenuous, like she didn't believe what she was saying at all and was forced to say those lines. The actress came off more as a teenage girl pretending to be an evil villain (which makes sense because that's exactly what she was doing). It’s a bit, jarring. It feels like she’s a Gen Zer pretending to be a closet Nazi rather than the inverse. Like the heinous racism is the performative part for some reason. I don’t blame the actress I think she’s actually pretty good it’s just how she’s written. Anyone know what she was saying in German incidentally? The subtitles I put on for rewatching the scene informed me she was speaking German, which I’d figured out already. I think the problem with this show come season 2 and seemingly every show I ever watch nowadays is the pacing is allllll over the place. It’s like character development is occurring on separate timelines. Stormfront came into our lives, killed some people, showed social media savvy and was revealed to be an ancient literal Nazi in the time it took Kimiko to show my beloved Frenchie that in the sign language her and her brother devised that the symbol for gun was making a gun shape. I enjoyed season 2 more than others here, less than season 1. Perhaps a bold claim but have we passed the ‘Golden Age of Television?’ My issue isn’t with The Boys I’m particular, this pacing issue seems to be consistently blighting basically every show I get invested in and the rot sets in pretty early. My crude hypothesis is that the market is so saturated with content that if you have a hit that gets traction, you have to strike while the iron is hot. Whether that’s studio pressure or whatever I’m not sure. Be it the final season of Game of Thrones trying to cram at least 2 seasons of plot into one, or this Boys season which feels like at least the skeleton of 2 if not 3 seasons of material, amongst others. Curious what y’all think about that, I’m sure there’s some well-paced gems of shows that I’m missing out there. It’s unfair to compare x show to something like Breaking Bad, but really it’s feeling an exception in terms of pacing plot and character development when people should aspire for it to be the model. If Breaking Bad came out now, had a great reception for its first season can you imagine how much it would suffer from cramming in the rest of it into a few more seasons? You don’t get a character like Gus with his intriguing menace gradually get fleshed out. Speaking of Gus must be a hell of a gig for the Edgar actor as it is almost note for note the same character. | ||
Cricketer12
United States13806 Posts
On October 16 2020 08:10 WombaT wrote: Speaking of Gus must be a hell of a gig for the Edgar actor as it is almost note for note the same character. I'm not complaining, fucking love Gus/Edgar | ||
WombaT
Northern Ireland20509 Posts
On October 16 2020 08:54 Cricketer12 wrote: I'm not complaining, fucking love Gus/Edgar Gusgar is bloody excellent. To comic readers specifically, is the social commentary quite as on the nose as some of it is the show? Maybe it’s being quite active discussing politics and social issues, as some of you have unfortunately been subjected to on this very site, but some of it feels really overly explicitly stated. Especially for something which has quite a satirical bent. | ||
MajuGarzett
Canada635 Posts
On October 16 2020 08:10 WombaT wrote: Anyone know what she was saying in German incidentally? The subtitles I put on for rewatching the scene informed me she was speaking German, which I’d figured out already. I saw a translation on reddit, was pretty much her reminiscing about her daughter. | ||
lestye
United States4093 Posts
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Manit0u
Poland17031 Posts
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Manit0u
Poland17031 Posts
Time to strap in for a ride. | ||
NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Saw episode 4 and talking about "BCL Red" as super weapon that supposedly killed Soldier Boy; After seeing the episode... (Solider) [B]oy [C]hest [L]aser [R]ed ... This reads a bit akward but seeing the effect of the laser I suppose it would make sense. Interested to see where they take this. Personally I understand that a big part of the show is the thrill that Homelander is untouchable and you really don't know what he will do - only what he could do. ***2nd thought: It might be they killed soldier boy and kind of build the weapon into him / reanimated him and turned him into a Russian weapon against Homelander I guess. I love the episodes but I hope its not some kind of GoT Night King buildup or Batman vs Superman cheap solution. Thats the issue I have with Homelander / general god-like powers in superheroes. | ||
Erasme
Bahamas15892 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + They had one in the comic, but it should be pretty obvious by now that the show is going in a new direction and it cannot be the same. | ||
Manit0u
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
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Manit0u
Poland17031 Posts
On June 18 2022 03:54 MaGic~PhiL wrote: Man.. imho there is just so little really "new stuff" happening.. So im rather dissapointed with this season compared to S2 but S1 in particular.. Well, this entire comic and show is centered around a small group of regular people trying to go against the superpowered people. It's not like you have a lot of room to get a lot new stuff there. We do get to see new superpowers, the ebb and flow of political/media power is constantly changing etc. I don't really know what kind of "new stuff" you'd like to see? For me there's plenty of new stuff all the time Especially if you compare it to the latest Stranger Things, where I think I stopped watching after 4-5 episodes and completely forgotten about the show until now | ||
PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
Dont get me wrong. Im still watching (both actually) but I was HYPED and AMAZED by both Series in Season 1 and now Im "just watching them" | ||
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