On September 25 2020 16:51 Magic Powers wrote: Was hyped for season 2. After the first few episodes I'm no longer hyped. I quit, hope you guys can still enjoy it.
Do you have any particular reason why your hype died down so much that you quit the show?
@dmnum: It's not really the Love Sausage from the comic, but it was an interesting twist on him.
Season 1 was the most ridiculous ride (storywise) I've been on in a while. Couldn't get enough of the complexity, the creativity, the whole thing. Season 2 is predictable. Charismatic good girl who's actually the complete opposite, a Nazi villain. Totally didn't see that coming from a mile away, yawn. And somehow Homelander is powerless against her but not against anyone else. What's that all about? And he gets completely fooled by Starlight? How? He behaves like a retard. Season 1 it was impossible to bluff him. He keeps getting bluffed over and over in season 2. And his milk fetish? We've already known about that for most of season 1, and now these scenes are literally in every episode, and I have no idea for what reason. If it's a setup, it's the longest repetition of a setup I've ever seen (which is something that I can't stand about modern TV shows, that's why I don't watch any. Season 1 largely avoided that, most payoffs came at the right time and the setups didn't overstay their welcome). I'm also getting incredibly bored, there are too many diverging plot lines happening and none of them are being followed through properly or connected to the main plot. It feels more like I'm watching side quests and not the main show. It's all over the place. Not interested in such a mess.
The latest episode seems very amateur. For such a high budget show the writing is awful. There's literally nothing original in this entire episode.
All of the writing is taken straight from the most widely used clichés: 1. "I'm gonna kill you!" "But I'm sad." "Okay I won't kill you we're friends now." 2. "I hate you!" "No wait this crisis has brought us together we're friends now." 3. "I'm am nothing like you!... but actually I am."
Literally the entire cast is just taking turns either loving or hating eachother. One episode the asian girl hates frenchie, the next she loves him. One episode Hughie hates butcher, now they both love eachother. Homelander and Stormfront go from love to hate back to love in this ONE episode. Like what the fuck is going on here? Did the writers all get fired? Is there a strike going on?
Here's what I predict: Lamplighter is gonna sacrifice himself somehow, Stormfront is gonna die somehow, Vought will be taken down and Gus Fring will be taken out of commission and the head of the Church is going to take over as the main villain. I haven't read the comics at all so I'm just going off of writing clichés here. We'll see how much I get right.
If they have signed up for multiple seasons i dont think vought is going anyway and if anything season 2 will just play the church into contention of some power for season 3. I think the killing off Stormfront is the only set thing but hey maybe they swing that out, and she stays and someone else dies.
I liked the history behind Stormfront this episode though her story being played out was nice and Frenchie background was good, i do admit was a bit cliche and weak the butcher/starlight scenes, but i dont mind the homelander and stormfront version because it just shows how easy it is to manipulate homelander because he is a so naive.
On September 26 2020 21:44 Pandemona wrote: If they have signed up for multiple seasons i dont think vought is going anyway and if anything season 2 will just play the church into contention of some power for season 3. I think the killing off Stormfront is the only set thing but hey maybe they swing that out, and she stays and someone else dies.
I liked the history behind Stormfront this episode though her story being played out was nice and Frenchie background was good, i do admit was a bit cliche and weak the butcher/starlight scenes, but i dont mind the homelander and stormfront version because it just shows how easy it is to manipulate homelander because he is a so naive.
Im honestly just surprised they haven't gone for the Stormfront is mom theory.
I feel like season 1 was a lot more ambiguous or left open ambiguity where this season is just hitting the hammer over the head for everything. Maybe i just am hyping up season 1 too much or thought season 1 left open more possibilities, but i agree with hyperbola above.
Really didn't like 1-2, was bored out of i mind. it picked up after but more for "spectacle" reasons... I really enjoyed it but for much different reasons than the truely awesome S1, its not lost/gone yet... But it very well could kill itself fast.
... Starlights usefullness reminds me of the naruto girl...
I agree with Hyperbola and Magic Power's posts. The quality of the writing just went downhill this season. Every source of tension the first few episodes was solved by blackmail when it wouldn't make sense...
I'm still enjoying/watching the show but I'm no longer hyped.
Season 2 feels like how Heroes started to feel after the first season, then every season was such a huge step down in quality it became unwatchable real quick because they had no idea where they were going. The Boys season 1 was great. The second season is worse then Lost. Just meanningless random stuff, barely watchable anymore.
I don't think the episodic release is doing this season any favors. There's nothing here that wasn't already there in the first season (the only time anything really unpredictable happened was in the very beginning and the very end, at least in my opinion), but because you have to wait for the next episode any meandering stings that much more.
I agree. This show isn't really meant to be watched on a weekly basis since it's not a show where some slow episodes actually do it any good. I don't mean for it to be non-stop action, but if you're going to drop an episode each week then something significant should happen in each of those episodes (preferably not at the very end) otherwise people will begin to lose interest.
The biggest problem with this show currently is the fact that the stakes just aren't there. I do like me some character development and drama but not when it's done in the void. It seems that the only struggles people are facing this season are ones that they put themselves into willingly, knowing what will happen. There's no real sense of dread or urgency like when they kidnapped Translucent in the first season and Homelander was searching for them.
The team simply isn't pushed or cornered so they just ramble about poor living conditions when on the run (although it seems they can just walk/drive wherever they want and when they want so not much for being on the lam either) and how it makes them depressed.
I need a bit more substance than that to keep me going. Otherwise I might just wait a month or two and binge the rest of the series (if I'll still remember to do it) because this pace is not for me in a show like that.
On September 30 2020 09:20 Manit0u wrote: I agree. This show isn't really meant to be watched on a weekly basis since it's not a show where some slow episodes actually do it any good. I don't mean for it to be non-stop action, but if you're going to drop an episode each week then something significant should happen in each of those episodes (preferably not at the very end) otherwise people will begin to lose interest.
The biggest problem with this show currently is the fact that the stakes just aren't there. I do like me some character development and drama but not when it's done in the void. It seems that the only struggles people are facing this season are ones that they put themselves into willingly, knowing what will happen. There's no real sense of dread or urgency like when they kidnapped Translucent in the first season and Homelander was searching for them.
The team simply isn't pushed or cornered so they just ramble about poor living conditions when on the run (although it seems they can just walk/drive wherever they want and when they want so not much for being on the lam either) and how it makes them depressed.
I need a bit more substance than that to keep me going. Otherwise I might just wait a month or two and binge the rest of the series (if I'll still remember to do it) because this pace is not for me in a show like that.
Stuff like this has been a problem with the show for some time. Nothing has come close to encapsulating the feeling of those scenes
It's as simple as giving our protagonists a problem to solve and a time constraint. Right now it seems like they have all the time in the world to leisurely just figure stuff out (they should've played the Black Noir hunting them card a bit more instead of resolving it in 5 minutes). There just seems to be no tension, especially when Hughie (the most vulnerable of them all) seems to just have given up and doesn't care what happens to him any more. I get PTSD and all that but for the sake of keeping the drama up he should have some semblance of life, hope and optimism left in him...
I mean, if the character that's supposed to be the vessel for the audience doesn't give a damn or care if he lives or dies, why should we?
I'm un-excited for the potential "We can inject compound V! Oh shit we need to make Hughie a super now to save him but wait let's have some emotional tension from Starlight and Butcher who are worried about him dying in the process or becoming a supe respectively"
Or Butcher having to become a super, or whatever this turns in to. Basically, it not being a 'from birth only' thing opens up all kinds of shitty plot directions imo