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On October 07 2013 13:56 riotjune wrote: I've always thought Eren and Mikasa were pretty violent for kids. They've killed 3 guys...
There's something off about Eren. I would've killed slavetraders if they were trying to enslave me. In the dire situation that humanity is in, I don't really see these conflicts as being unusually violent.
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On October 08 2013 04:01 julianto wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2013 13:56 riotjune wrote: I've always thought Eren and Mikasa were pretty violent for kids. They've killed 3 guys...
There's something off about Eren. I would've killed slavetraders if they were trying to enslave me. In the dire situation that humanity is in, I don't really see these conflicts as being unusually violent. Yea, maybe after the fact/hindsight if you knew how things would turn out. Reminds me of that thread where op was mugged in China when he was brought into a room and do nothing but comply with letting his muggers siphon off his credit card, some posters said op was a coward and others said they would've fought back. If one was put in a similar situation? Yea maybe, if one was armed with a gun.
Besides, Eren was not being enslaved or in a dire situation until he put himself in one by confronting the slave traders.
I don't think the average 9-year-old would have as much insight or bloodthirst to piece together everything on the spot and carry out his execution plan, especially if he never killed someone before or had training, unless said 9-year-old had a death wish (which Eren's father was angry about). Eren even used his age as an advantage to throw off the slave traders. If put on the spot, I'd think a normal child would be more inclined to listen to his father and wait for the authorities, or be paralyzed with fear in the presence of known murderers. Instead, Eren decides to carry out his own brand of vigilante justice by actively seeking out the slave traders and flat out murders them. If he was always capable of this much insight, planning, and brutality, he probably wouldn't be losing to local bullies and have Mikasa intervening with judo throws.
http://www.mangareader.net/shingeki-no-kyojin/6/5
Those aren't your average 9-year-old's eyes. Something snapped or was triggered.
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On October 08 2013 09:13 riotjune wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2013 04:01 julianto wrote:On October 07 2013 13:56 riotjune wrote: I've always thought Eren and Mikasa were pretty violent for kids. They've killed 3 guys...
There's something off about Eren. I would've killed slavetraders if they were trying to enslave me. In the dire situation that humanity is in, I don't really see these conflicts as being unusually violent. Yea, maybe after the fact/hindsight if you knew how things would turn out. Reminds me of that thread where op was mugged in China when he was brought into a room and do nothing but comply with letting his muggers siphon off his credit card, some posters said op was a coward and others said they would've fought back. If one was put in a similar situation? Yea maybe, if one was armed with a gun. Besides, Eren was not being enslaved or in a dire situation until he put himself in one by confronting the slave traders. I don't think the average 9-year-old would have as much insight or bloodthirst to piece together everything on the spot and carry out his execution plan, especially if he never killed someone before or had training, unless said 9-year-old had a death wish (which Eren's father was angry about). Eren even used his age as an advantage to throw off the slave traders. If put on the spot, I'd think a normal child would be more inclined to listen to his father and wait for the authorities, or be paralyzed with fear in the presence of known murderers. Instead, Eren decides to carry out his own brand of vigilante justice by actively seeking out the slave traders and flat out murders them. If he was always capable of this much insight, planning, and brutality, he probably wouldn't be losing to local bullies and have Mikasa intervening with judo throws. http://www.mangareader.net/shingeki-no-kyojin/6/5Those aren't your average 9-year-old's eyes. Something snapped or was triggered.
were they normal kids? probably not, but then you cant say they were titans back then jsut because they were more willing to fight then most kids
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old news unfortunately. The chapter has been out for a while
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aahhhh my bad, its easy to miss on the non-mangastream sources =p
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Lol I remember making the same mistake a while ago. xD
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Just read the chapter for the 3rd time. Pretty amazing chapter, especially love the moment between Mikasa and Eren... Poor Hannes tries his best to avenge his guilt, and humanity's hope shows itself.
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On October 10 2013 08:01 absalom86 wrote: Just read the chapter for the 3rd time. Pretty amazing chapter, especially love the moment between Mikasa and Eren... Poor Hannes tries his best to avenge his guilt, and humanity's hope shows itself. on the bright side Hannes knows he made the right choice back then
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On October 10 2013 04:00 Zeo1990 wrote: aahhhh my bad, its easy to miss on the non-mangastream sources =p
Still better to link the mangastream version, which is straight from Japanese.
The faster Japanese > Chinese > English translations can result with very questionable results.
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Eren's got the same power to control mindless titans as the monkey ("Coordination" is a rather lame designation for such a powerful ability; compare with Conqueror's Haki). Long-armed monkey is Eren's dad in titan form. Calling it. Har har.
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On October 10 2013 14:18 sumsaR wrote: Eren's got the same power to control mindless titans as the monkey ("Coordination" is a rather lame designation for such a powerful ability; compare with Conqueror's Haki). Long-armed monkey is Eren's dad in titan form. Calling it. Har har.
Unlikely, the ape titan expressed extreme interest in the 3d maneuver gear, which Grisha must have known all about, having lived in shiganshina.
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I dont like the power up at all. Now its going to be I cant control the power and he needs a desprate moment to activate it again. Its like the easy way to grant the main character a power up. The power its just in my option to mighty.
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there are others on the "enemy" side that can use it, as the long armed monkey can (who also seems stronger and larger than eren anyway). what would happen if they both tried to use it?
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On October 10 2013 15:09 Navi wrote: there are others on the "enemy" side that can use it, as the long armed monkey can (who also seems stronger and larger than eren anyway). what would happen if they both tried to use it? Impossible to know IMO, could be absolutely anything. I sure hope it wouldnt turn into a DBZ-esque battle of willpower. Maybe the apecreature doesnt have the same kind of power exactly.
Another theory: I forget the exact names, berthold etc (armored titan and colossal titan). Anyway, they have split personalities where they kind of think they are doing the right thing, and feel guilt over other things. Maybe they developed such a trait to be able to live with themselves, but what if they were controlled by another source as well (ape thing for example). When eren accused them that they simply betrayed the human race, they were strongly against such a strong assumption. Maybe its a personality disorder, but maybe they were being controlled by another source as well which led them to do such acts?
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On October 10 2013 11:38 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2013 08:01 absalom86 wrote: Just read the chapter for the 3rd time. Pretty amazing chapter, especially love the moment between Mikasa and Eren... Poor Hannes tries his best to avenge his guilt, and humanity's hope shows itself. on the bright side Hannes knows he made the right choice back then
LOL
asshole but very funny comment :p
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poor hannes
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On October 10 2013 15:03 spaZps wrote: I dont like the power up at all. Now its going to be I cant control the power and he needs a desprate moment to activate it again. Its like the easy way to grant the main character a power up. The power its just in my option to mighty. the ability isnt as useful as it seems back when they fought the armoured and collosal there were no titans to turn on them, and normal titans can only inconvenince armoured guy
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On October 10 2013 22:36 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2013 15:03 spaZps wrote: I dont like the power up at all. Now its going to be I cant control the power and he needs a desprate moment to activate it again. Its like the easy way to grant the main character a power up. The power its just in my option to mighty. the ability isnt as useful as it seems back when they fought the armoured and collosal there were no titans to turn on them, and normal titans can only inconvenince armoured guy
At the very least if Eren figures out how to use this power then he can make sure that Titans won't bother humans. That's the most important part. This struggle just became political and I'm very interested in hearing why the two titan-guys (their names are too hard to remember and spell) think that Eren shouldn't have this power. At very least, I'm thinking they were hoping that Eren would join their cause or something. I don't see them as particularly bad people, on the contrary, it's a good thing that two huge and powerful titans can be, at very least, reasoned with.
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On October 10 2013 22:39 Incognoto wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2013 22:36 Forikorder wrote:On October 10 2013 15:03 spaZps wrote: I dont like the power up at all. Now its going to be I cant control the power and he needs a desprate moment to activate it again. Its like the easy way to grant the main character a power up. The power its just in my option to mighty. the ability isnt as useful as it seems back when they fought the armoured and collosal there were no titans to turn on them, and normal titans can only inconvenince armoured guy At the very least if Eren figures out how to use this power then he can make sure that Titans won't bother humans. That's the most important part. This struggle just became political and I'm very interested in hearing why the two titan-guys (their names are too hard to remember and spell) think that Eren shouldn't have this power. At very least, I'm thinking they were hoping that Eren would join their cause or something. I don't see them as particularly bad people, on the contrary, it's a good thing that two huge and powerful titans can be, at very least, reasoned with. depends on how much control he actually has, if all he can do is drive them into a freeding frenzy at one target then he cant
its a useful ability but he still cant control it
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On October 10 2013 22:39 Incognoto wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2013 22:36 Forikorder wrote:On October 10 2013 15:03 spaZps wrote: I dont like the power up at all. Now its going to be I cant control the power and he needs a desprate moment to activate it again. Its like the easy way to grant the main character a power up. The power its just in my option to mighty. the ability isnt as useful as it seems back when they fought the armoured and collosal there were no titans to turn on them, and normal titans can only inconvenince armoured guy At the very least if Eren figures out how to use this power then he can make sure that Titans won't bother humans. That's the most important part. This struggle just became political and I'm very interested in hearing why the two titan-guys (their names are too hard to remember and spell) think that Eren shouldn't have this power. At very least, I'm thinking they were hoping that Eren would join their cause or something. I don't see them as particularly bad people, on the contrary, it's a good thing that two huge and powerful titans can be, at very least, reasoned with. Because Eren is so emotional and impulsive that the way he uses the ability can be very dangerous (to echo what you said, he himself can't be reasoned with), and for them in particular they know Eren won't ever accept to come to their side; he hates them with his guts. The way it's worded seems to imply that not everyone can have that power, or even only a few people at a time, so the "slot" being taken by somebody who wishes them dead can't be good for them.
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