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On January 16 2013 04:38 a176 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2013 04:02 Mortal wrote:On January 16 2013 03:58 meadbert wrote:
I totally agree with this post, although I do not advocate skipping episode 1.
451236 is the correct order. can you give an actual purpose to watching ep1? there's nothing added to the series other than an abysmal and annoying frog thing and some races. I'd like to skip ep2 as well but there's actually some shit that goes on there. i agree with the original comment on ep1 resembling something more like an 'extended' universe piece. its true most of the movie stands by itself rather than directly affecting the rest of the movies. the only notable things that lead into the other films are anakin's love for his mother, obiwan's relationship with anakin, introduction into the split in the council. as a movie itself its full of other great stories. its a good (not the "best") scifi romp. imo there's no way you can recommend ep4 and turn around and lambaste ep1. in ep4 you are thrown into the storyline with zero understanding of any of the backplot. the "force" is never really explained aside from "its there" and "jedi use it". darth vader is barely characterized in the movie aside from being the bad guy with immense unexplained power. the entire movie is basically 2.5 acts, a short introduction of luke, the main storyling of rescuing leia, and then destroying the deathstar. nothing is ever truly explained. ep4 is just as garbage as ep1 if you want to define it on the grand scale of the star wars story. ep4 can be a good movie if you like explosions and lasers and all that jazz people in the 70s loved.
I was going to write something longer, but you're pretty clearly a troll and/or stupid.
The burden of proof is on you. Convince me that Ep 4 sucked, and we'll talk. Saying you have no idea what "in medias res" is and that you didn't understand it only hurts your case, considering that children have no trouble following the plot.
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It just occurred to me now that I actually enjoyed these reviews more than the movies themselves. That's scary...
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Time to dust off the VHS copies (No CGI! Yoda as a bad ass puppet for life), and see where I can pick up 2 and 3 on the cheap.
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On January 16 2013 05:02 liberal wrote:It just occurred to me now that I actually enjoyed these reviews more than the movies themselves. That's scary...
I've watched these reviews more than the movies themselves, but right now I REALLY want to watch Star wars episode II and III for some reason. The ship battle at the start of III is hella!!!
I think watching them in this order would be better if they were all of the same visual quality, but I think I'll try it. :D
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1,2,3 are all bad tbh. And 6 is kind of meh. 4 and 5 are the golden ones and those 2 should be watched by everyone!
the biggest problem with the new ones is that they are all cgi and it hurts the acting part too much. Also the villains are pretty lackluster  ) and there's way too much talking and exposition.
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Haters gonna hate in regards to Episode 1. I must be one of the few people who actually really enjoyed that movie. Sure, midichlorians are bullshit, Jar Jar is a moron, and there are numerous plot issues, but in the end the movie was extremely entertaining, and Duel of the Fates is the best song from the entire franchise IMO. The podracing and the final duel with Darth Maul are both some of the most memorable movie scenes for me. I may have nostalgia goggles on somewhat, but I honestly don't think the film deserves nearly as much hate as it gets. It does also help that Liam Neeson is one of my favorite actors.
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On January 16 2013 05:25 HolyArrow wrote:
Haters gonna hate in regards to Episode 1. I must be one of the few people who actually really enjoyed that movie. Sure, midichlorians are bullshit, Jar Jar is a moron, and there are numerous plot issues, but in the end the movie was extremely entertaining, and Duel of the Fates is the best song from the entire franchise IMO. The podracing and the final duel with Darth Maul are both some of the most memorable movie scenes for me. I may have nostalgia goggles on somewhat, but I honestly don't think the film deserves nearly as much hate as it gets. It does also help that Liam Neeson is one of my favorite actors.
Agreed for the most part! Although I do not find Jar Jar Binks that annoying. In any case, he is only 1/100th the annoyance of Gollum, who was in all three of the LotR movies, and a great deal in the second and third ones.
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I prefer episode 1,2 and 3 over 4,5,6. Don't know why you guys think episode 1 is bad.
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Episode II is worse than Episode I, just sayin'
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On January 16 2013 04:38 a176 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2013 04:02 Mortal wrote:On January 16 2013 03:58 meadbert wrote:
I totally agree with this post, although I do not advocate skipping episode 1.
451236 is the correct order. can you give an actual purpose to watching ep1? there's nothing added to the series other than an abysmal and annoying frog thing and some races. I'd like to skip ep2 as well but there's actually some shit that goes on there. i agree with the original comment on ep1 resembling something more like an 'extended' universe piece. its true most of the movie stands by itself rather than directly affecting the rest of the movies. the only notable things that lead into the other films are anakin's love for his mother, obiwan's relationship with anakin, introduction into the split in the council. as a movie itself its full of other great stories. its a good (not the "best") scifi romp. imo there's no way you can recommend ep4 and turn around and lambaste ep1. in ep4 you are thrown into the storyline with zero understanding of any of the backplot. the "force" is never really explained aside from "its there" and "jedi use it". darth vader is barely characterized in the movie aside from being the bad guy with immense unexplained power. the entire movie is basically 2.5 acts, a short introduction of luke, the main storyling of rescuing leia, and then destroying the deathstar. nothing is ever truly explained. ep4 is just as garbage as ep1 if you want to define it on the grand scale of the star wars story. ep4 can be a good movie if you like explosions and lasers and all that jazz people in the 70s loved.
Why do you need to know everything? I mean, do you like exposition in movies? "Show, don't tell" usually works better in sci-fi, especially in cases where the explanation would have to be super clever or it will completely fall on it's arse. Why do we need everything explained. There is no good way to explain the force. Yeah actually they tried to explain it by introducing metachlorians or whatever and that stuff was just stupid. I mean, really really silly .
Also, ep4 was made with ep5 and ep6 in mind, so the movie wasn't ment to be a stand alone film as far as i'm concerned.
It was 1 film in a trilogy. I think he(Lucas) wanted to make 9 movies in total, so 3 trilogies, and ep4 was just one film in one of the trilogies. However, ep4 is the only movie out of all starwars that can be seen without having to view anything else. It has a clear beginning and a clear ending. Yeah ofcourse not everything is explained but it doesn't have to be. If you look at Alien, yeah we don't really know the origin of that monster but do we really need to know? I don't think so, it works without it. Ofcourse now we got prometheus to explain it all but we didn't need a prequel at all.
And your last point is pretty funny, are you saying that today people don't like mindless explosions? Just look at what kind of money transformers make, and how many people go to see them. What about the quality of the movie though?
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On January 16 2013 04:57 TrickyGilligan wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2013 04:38 a176 wrote:On January 16 2013 04:02 Mortal wrote:On January 16 2013 03:58 meadbert wrote:
I totally agree with this post, although I do not advocate skipping episode 1.
451236 is the correct order. can you give an actual purpose to watching ep1? there's nothing added to the series other than an abysmal and annoying frog thing and some races. I'd like to skip ep2 as well but there's actually some shit that goes on there. i agree with the original comment on ep1 resembling something more like an 'extended' universe piece. its true most of the movie stands by itself rather than directly affecting the rest of the movies. the only notable things that lead into the other films are anakin's love for his mother, obiwan's relationship with anakin, introduction into the split in the council. as a movie itself its full of other great stories. its a good (not the "best") scifi romp. imo there's no way you can recommend ep4 and turn around and lambaste ep1. in ep4 you are thrown into the storyline with zero understanding of any of the backplot. the "force" is never really explained aside from "its there" and "jedi use it". darth vader is barely characterized in the movie aside from being the bad guy with immense unexplained power. the entire movie is basically 2.5 acts, a short introduction of luke, the main storyling of rescuing leia, and then destroying the deathstar. nothing is ever truly explained. ep4 is just as garbage as ep1 if you want to define it on the grand scale of the star wars story. ep4 can be a good movie if you like explosions and lasers and all that jazz people in the 70s loved. I was going to write something longer, but you're pretty clearly a troll and/or stupid. The burden of proof is on you. Convince me that Ep 4 sucked, and we'll talk. Saying you have no idea what "in medias res" is and that you didn't understand it only hurts your case, considering that children have no trouble following the plot.
the debate was about what ep1 adds to the universe and i said ep4 does no better job at that, if at all. in the grand scale of the star wars storyline, ep4 is nothing to be proud of. ep4 is just about this guy named luke skywalker and his particular adventures in rescuing a princess and blowing up the bad guy. hey, as movie by itself, its a pretty good scifi flick. but its not until ep5 that you are able to fully appreciate the star wars universe, when you are fully immersed into the backstory of the force, the characters (darth, luke, yoda, etc), and the rebellion/empire, etc.
and its just in the same way that ep1 revolves around anakin, the various people he meets and the adventures he goes through, even if it doesn't have much to do with the bigger picture we see in ep2/3.
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hmmm this actually sounds really nice, it was such a long time i watched the trilogy but I think I am planning to watch the lord of rings trilogy instead because of the hobbit ---> 12 hours of movie time ftw :D
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I'd gladly use a machete on anyone's DVD copy of 1-3.
What made the original three Star Wars good was not simply the lore, but the atmosphere. And when you start rendering that atmosphere in CGI, it's pretty much trashed IMO.
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Dang, this looks pretty interesting. I would've done it but I just watched all six (1 -> 2 -> 3 -> 4...) around New Year's. I like this, though.
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I was waiting for this to be posted.
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I actually like the idea. But we have to watch some of the parts of episode 1. Yes we will have to skip some parts of episode 1 (and 2 too, i would say the romance in there is even worse than twilight, but i haven't watched it to compare), but episode 1 did some stuff really well, the begining, Anakin's mood when leaving his mother behind, and of course, DUEL OF FATES (for me it's still the best saber fight ever in all the episodes).
What made the original three Star Wars good was not simply the lore, but the atmosphere. And when you start rendering that atmosphere in CGI, it's pretty much trashed IMO.
Well, i would say that the scripts have way more to do with that imho. But i have to agree somewhat on the CGI, watching the four alien movies was painful when i started watching alien 3 (somewhat decent, but some of the CGI are like...) and then the goat's abortion that is resurrection. Oh god why.
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Cool suggestion. Next time I watch them, probably in a few years, I'll try it like this and see how it adds to the experience.
Episode 1 was pretty cheesy. Anakin accidently destroyed the entire trade federation blockade. That's just dumb
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For those going to watch the movies again here is an interesting way to look at some of the characters in a new light.
http://km-515.livejournal.com/746.html
Not canon stuff? but a very well put together story.
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Nice OP, but I'm not sure if anyone would even want to take into account the new movies when thinking/watching Star Wars :p
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