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On January 31 2016 22:49 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2016 17:22 Malinor wrote:
Prediction time:
They will go to trial.
- Prosecution won't be able to proof that he is not a lawyer beyond reasonable doubt. (Though how they pull that one of when they can literally question the whole Harvard class and noone will remember Mike's existence, I have no clue)
- Since they will win the trial Mike can then practice law (by law he cannot be accused of being a fraud ever again, right?).
- They'll also find some dirt on Soloff/Hardman/Forstman, so that Harvey can stay in the firm. I think it'll go down like that as well, although I'm not sure how much the "free from Double Jeopardy" procedural defense encompasses in a fraud case like this.
From what the prosecutor was saying, I gathered that Mike is commiting fraud every time he signs something as a lawyer. So maybe those can be seen as different cases each time :D.
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On February 01 2016 00:11 ZenithM wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2016 22:49 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On January 31 2016 17:22 Malinor wrote:
Prediction time:
They will go to trial.
- Prosecution won't be able to proof that he is not a lawyer beyond reasonable doubt. (Though how they pull that one of when they can literally question the whole Harvard class and noone will remember Mike's existence, I have no clue)
- Since they will win the trial Mike can then practice law (by law he cannot be accused of being a fraud ever again, right?).
- They'll also find some dirt on Soloff/Hardman/Forstman, so that Harvey can stay in the firm. I think it'll go down like that as well, although I'm not sure how much the "free from Double Jeopardy" procedural defense encompasses in a fraud case like this. From what the prosecutor was saying, I gathered that Mike is commiting fraud every time he signs something as a lawyer. So maybe those can be seen as different cases each time :D.
Oh man that would be the worst plot ever lol
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On January 31 2016 18:26 malcram wrote:
i think he can still be accused of committing another fraud. i.e. not attending/graduating from Harvard.
right now he's just being accused of not being an actual lawyer?
Eh that isn't criminal though, people get caught with fake diplomas all of the time and even though they lose their careers they never go to jail for it
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On February 03 2016 22:06 KOFgokuon wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2016 18:26 malcram wrote:
i think he can still be accused of committing another fraud. i.e. not attending/graduating from Harvard.
right now he's just being accused of not being an actual lawyer? Eh that isn't criminal though, people get caught with fake diplomas all of the time and even though they lose their careers they never go to jail for it
Not if they use the false diploma to do a Job said diploma would be required for (medical doctors are a nice example).
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Yeah, the show is a bit blurry on whether Mike's real crime is committing fraud by holding himself out as a Harvard graduate or by practicing law without a license.
I found the first episode quite weird that they initially suspected Trevor or Scotty of ratting out Mike. Seems much more likely that it would be Claire or the priest.
Here's hoping it was an inside job. Louis tipping off the US attorney's office would be perfect.
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that would suck
wed have to hate louis
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On February 03 2016 22:23 Velr wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2016 22:06 KOFgokuon wrote:On January 31 2016 18:26 malcram wrote:
i think he can still be accused of committing another fraud. i.e. not attending/graduating from Harvard.
right now he's just being accused of not being an actual lawyer? Eh that isn't criminal though, people get caught with fake diplomas all of the time and even though they lose their careers they never go to jail for it Not if they use the false diploma to do a Job said diploma would be required for (medical doctors are a nice example).
I think this is semantics, since the fraud is claiming to be a lawyer, harvard just happens to be where he's claiming to be from but i doubt he could be separately charged for committing fraud for doing lawyer things AND fraud for claiming to be from harvard, otherwise all of those charges would just be stacked against him right now
Besides to prove lawyer fraud they'd have to prove he didn't go to harvard, if they couldn't prove the former they won't be able to prove the latter
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I think the original super-opportunistic-and-selfish Louis Litt might have tried a power play like this, but we've seen his character evolve so much- especially his sincerity and appreciation for everyone- that current Louis could never backstab everyone like this. Plus, he'd just get dragged down with everyone else who was in on the secret.
It's not Louis 
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If you follow the eliminations on USA's website + Show Spoiler +it's not jessica, donna, louis, rachel, or harvey, and there's other people that have also been eliminated (trevor, robert, etc)
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maybe they are gonna write off sheila. make louis choose between sheila or the firm
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On February 04 2016 01:04 malcram wrote:
maybe they are gonna write off sheila. make louis choose between sheila or the firm
I feel like he already indirectly had to leave Sheila because Sheila didn't want children.
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Obligatory because we would all wipe out a village as high as he wanted.
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I thought it was the random girl who knew Mike as a bike courrier. By eliminating Trevor and Scotty, it's pretty much between her and Sheila randomly starting to dig in her ex-boyfriend's firm.
It's a pretty lame thread to hang this whole story on, though.
EDIT: It could be Katrina somehow figuring it out, but then Howard Zane would know. And Jenny. Which would be even dumber than the random girl: after like 5 years of not giving a shit, Jenny decides to pay Mike back for cheating on her by destroying his life?
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On February 04 2016 01:47 Acrofales wrote:
I thought it was the random girl who knew Mike as a bike courrier. By eliminating Trevor and Scotty, it's pretty much between her and Sheila randomly starting to dig in her ex-boyfriend's firm.
It's a pretty lame thread to hang this whole story on, though.
EDIT: It could be Katrina somehow figuring it out, but then Howard Zane would know. And Jenny. Which would be even dumber than the random girl: after like 5 years of not giving a shit, Jenny decides to pay Mike back for cheating on her by destroying his life?
iirc wasn't it Jenny who technically cheated on Trevor with Mike?
Separately, when Jenny had come back into Mike's life, Mike slept with Tess... but Mike and Jenny weren't together then iirc?
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Suits in two hours! 
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I'm shocked how that last scene went... I mean they bluff her and it doesn't completely backfire?? Probably will just happen next scene lol
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+ Show Spoiler +awww shiettttt called it?
also, seems like double jeopardy applies, according to what mike said to gerrard.
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Despite not being a huge fan of Jeff, that Jeff/Mike scene at the end has one of my favorite emotional non-Louis lines now...
+ Show Spoiler +It cost her her relationship with me!
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how many times was fraud said per minute
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On February 05 2016 00:43 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Despite not being a huge fan of Jeff, that Jeff/Mike scene at the end has one of my favorite emotional non-Louis lines now... + Show Spoiler +It cost her her relationship with me!
Yeah that was pretty good. Mike's reaction was pretty believable as well.
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