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kuresuti
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1393 Posts
January 29 2016 00:48 GMT
#2681
Why do they believe she has no evidence? Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Sheila have hard evidence that Mike didn't go to harvard (if she knew to look for it)? There was a big arc about it but I don't remember the conclusion.

Anyway if it's still there it seems like it wouldn't be difficult for the prosecutor to have access to it
Fi0na
Profile Joined February 2014
0 Posts
January 29 2016 01:58 GMT
#2682
Wow. Waited so long for the show to return I forgot how much this "Mike's secret threatens to ruin everything" plot sucks. 10 minutes in I found myself wondering if it really was a good idea to continue watching.

Oh well. Here's to hoping that this is an elaborate plot from Rachel's dad who found out about this fraud thing by himself to really put the loyalty of Mike and Rachel to the test, as well as his lawyering skills, and to make sure that this thing never comes up again. Ever.
But knowing the show, it will once again just have been Forstman doing it for the lulz. And Hardman/Soloff trying to get their name on the wall. Why does no one just spray their name as Grafitti on there?
Life is not fair. But that's what chocolate is for.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 05:24:31
January 29 2016 05:23 GMT
#2683
I always watched Suits for the oral jousting more than the plot, and I was not disappointed. Glad it is back :D
Also, I seem to be the only one on here that likes the "Mike's secret hanging over his head" plot line. Used and abused, but still effective as far as I'm concerned. It's probably the only way they have to create tension within the firm without introducing new characters. I hope they do introduce some more though, but I like this prosecutor, Harvey needs a worthy opponent.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8764 Posts
January 29 2016 05:57 GMT
#2684
yeah i liked the episode overall
the mike's secret thing has been used a lot but this time something will actually happen to mike, which makes it a lot more interesting.
as for the prosecutor, shes just gonna end up like every other 'worthy' opponent harvey has faced. rekt
still going to be interesting to see how she gets rekt though, as i dont see the producers actually making mike and harvey lose for once
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
January 29 2016 05:58 GMT
#2685
On January 29 2016 14:57 evilfatsh1t wrote:
yeah i liked the episode overall
the mike's secret thing has been used a lot but this time something will actually happen to mike, which makes it a lot more interesting.
as for the prosecutor, shes just gonna end up like every other 'worthy' opponent harvey has faced. rekt
still going to be interesting to see how she gets rekt though, as i dont see the producers actually making mike and harvey lose for once


given the producers are harvey and mike, yeah

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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
January 29 2016 10:35 GMT
#2686
Yeah, of course they will win, but I just need Harvey to sweat a little, maybe even go into the moral grey area :D.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45092 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 11:09:15
January 29 2016 11:08 GMT
#2687
On January 29 2016 14:23 ZenithM wrote:
I always watched Suits for the oral jousting more than the plot, and I was not disappointed. Glad it is back :D
Also, I seem to be the only one on here that likes the "Mike's secret hanging over his head" plot line. Used and abused, but still effective as far as I'm concerned. It's probably the only way they have to create tension within the firm without introducing new characters. I hope they do introduce some more though, but I like this prosecutor, Harvey needs a worthy opponent.


Yeah I really liked the fact that the prosecutor was prepared to take the "good faith" letter of resignation and basically still try and screw over Harvey and Mike- she really wants to win. Reminds me a bit of how Travis Tanner wouldn't mind hitting below the belt or using whatever ammunition he had to be as opportunistic as possible.

I also don't mind the Mike's Secret premise still being used, but I do hope that things change as more people find out (e.g., Robert Zane).
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45092 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 11:12:01
January 29 2016 11:11 GMT
#2688
On January 29 2016 14:57 evilfatsh1t wrote:
yeah i liked the episode overall
the mike's secret thing has been used a lot but this time something will actually happen to mike, which makes it a lot more interesting.
as for the prosecutor, shes just gonna end up like every other 'worthy' opponent harvey has faced. rekt
still going to be interesting to see how she gets rekt though, as i dont see the producers actually making mike and harvey lose for once


Prosecutor paints them into a corner -> Epiphany about something illegal that prosecutor did and/ or connection to other bad person -> Prosecutor can no longer push the case any further because of the risk to herself -> Mike and Harvey narrowly escape.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24741 Posts
January 29 2016 11:14 GMT
#2689
I've never heard of someone painting someone else into a corner to be honest. Otherwise, your analysis is probably spot on.
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45092 Posts
January 29 2016 12:23 GMT
#2690
On January 29 2016 09:48 kuresuti wrote:
Why do they believe she has no evidence? Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Sheila have hard evidence that Mike didn't go to harvard (if she knew to look for it)? There was a big arc about it but I don't remember the conclusion.

Anyway if it's still there it seems like it wouldn't be difficult for the prosecutor to have access to it


I forget exactly, but I think it was more of how Sheila knew Mike wasn't in her huge library database and how it was informally established that she knew everyone who ever ever ever applied to or went to Harvard. So I think legally I'm not sure if it could have held up (her word/ memory vs. the fact that his name is actually registered into the bar exam as passing, he has a diploma, etc.).
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14899 Posts
January 29 2016 13:23 GMT
#2691
I guess the key is that they have to prove beyond reasonable doubt that he's not a lawyer, and he might skirt by on a technicality. EIther way, even if he wins I Don't see what the end game of the show is because he's never gonna practice law again
Fi0na
Profile Joined February 2014
0 Posts
January 30 2016 05:19 GMT
#2692
On January 29 2016 22:23 KOFgokuon wrote:
I guess the key is that they have to prove beyond reasonable doubt that he's not a lawyer, and he might skirt by on a technicality. EIther way, even if he wins I Don't see what the end game of the show is because he's never gonna practice law again


Well, Harvey wasn't supposed to work there ever again either. Yet here we are, 40 minutes later, and he is back in business. At least Forstman will hopefully find out about that soon.
Oh and Mike just protected Jessica by blackmailing Soloff harder than Forstman did to allow Harvey to come back. If Mike is proven innocent once and for all Jessica might take him back, even just to remove any leftover doubt.
Life is not fair. But that's what chocolate is for.
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
January 30 2016 12:10 GMT
#2693
man harvey rocking those 3-piece made my day
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739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
January 30 2016 12:29 GMT
#2694
Thx DarkPlasmaBall for reminding !

New episode was good. Damn, I've missed Suits so much, wondering how will the story with Mike/Rachel/Robert evolve. Can't wait for next EP !

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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45092 Posts
January 30 2016 13:00 GMT
#2695
Assuming that Harvey and Mike (and Jessica) will be found not guilty in all of this, I'm still confident that *some* things will have changed that can further the plot (drama-wise), such as:

1a. Now Robert knows, and this *should* be a big deal. He doesn't seem like the kind of guy to be okay with Mike being a fraud, because of how it risks Rachel's well-being. He's expressed that (both to Mike and to Rachel) while Mike was being detained last episode. I hope it's not just a simple change of heart from Robert, that he easily accepts Mike back into the family.

1b. I think it should logically follow that if Mr. Zane knows, then Mrs. Zane should eventually find out as well. She's not quite as relevant a character as Robert is, right now, but she's still Rachel's mom.

2. According to Scottie, now *everyone* knows that Mike is being accused of fraud. I hope that this has recurring aftershocks in later episodes (once Mike is found not guilty) and affects other previously-solid relationships.

3. Harvey explicitly betrayed his deal with Forstman. For good reasons, but that'll make Forstman want to get him back even worse.

4. Mike formally picked a fight with Jack Soloff, by telling him that he'd drag Jack into the mud with him. Up until this Soloff/ Hardman issue, Jack has actually been pretty fond of Mike, and there were instances where Jack was actually trying to be a good guy (like when he told Hardman to fuck off). However, now Jack will probably be looking for more revenge (even though Jack technically started this whole thing by being an opportunistic jerk). I find him to be very similar to (earlier) Louis's character, but I don't think Jessica and Harvey and Mike are ever going to trust Jack (although to be fair, they still worry about Louis's opportunism too... like during this episode, when Jessica thought the "Make me Managing Partner" idea was a power play from Louis).

5. Donna is back with Harvey.

6. + Show Spoiler +
Gretchen won't be leaving the Suits universe either


As a complete aside, I miss Jenny. She wouldn't really fit into the current plot well at all, since Mike and Rachel are together for good and battling all odds together, but I miss her anyway.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8764 Posts
January 31 2016 04:51 GMT
#2696
jenny was 100x times better than rachel
they should have made her go to law school and get a harvard education just to show rachel up and keep her in the show. rachel sucks
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37045 Posts
January 31 2016 05:31 GMT
#2697
So freaking glad Suits is back. I really missed this show. Ep 1 was really awesome. Definitely got me excited for the rest of this season.
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4732 Posts
January 31 2016 08:22 GMT
#2698
Prediction time:

They will go to trial.
- Prosecution won't be able to proof that he is not a lawyer beyond reasonable doubt. (Though how they pull that one of when they can literally question the whole Harvard class and noone will remember Mike's existence, I have no clue)
- Since they will win the trial Mike can then practice law (by law he cannot be accused of being a fraud ever again, right?).
- They'll also find some dirt on Soloff/Hardman/Forstman, so that Harvey can stay in the firm.

If it goes down like this, it will be beyond stupid. But well, this show is not about realism, is it ;-) But still fun to watch.
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malcram
Profile Joined November 2010
2752 Posts
January 31 2016 09:26 GMT
#2699
i think he can still be accused of committing another fraud. i.e. not attending/graduating from Harvard.
right now he's just being accused of not being an actual lawyer?
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45092 Posts
January 31 2016 13:49 GMT
#2700
On January 31 2016 17:22 Malinor wrote:
Prediction time:

They will go to trial.
- Prosecution won't be able to proof that he is not a lawyer beyond reasonable doubt. (Though how they pull that one of when they can literally question the whole Harvard class and noone will remember Mike's existence, I have no clue)
- Since they will win the trial Mike can then practice law (by law he cannot be accused of being a fraud ever again, right?).
- They'll also find some dirt on Soloff/Hardman/Forstman, so that Harvey can stay in the firm.


I think it'll go down like that as well, although I'm not sure how much the "free from Double Jeopardy" procedural defense encompasses in a fraud case like this.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
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