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[TV] The Legend of Korra - Page 262
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InsidiA
Canada1169 Posts
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Motlu
Australia884 Posts
. Still, I cannot think of a better way to end the series. RIP TLoK, you were beautifully flawed. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On December 20 2014 11:51 WolfintheSheep wrote: I think the whole series needs to be watched Book by Book, and not episodically. Helps to smooth over the little annoyance, and the seasons as whole pictures tend to come together fairly well. More like it comes together very nicely on the second watch of the entire series. I didn't really like Iroh or Zuko the first watch-through of Avatar, but knowing how the series ends definitely makes them easier to appreciate. Same principle for pretty much all of LoK's main characters, especially Mako Bolin and Lin. | ||
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KrazyTrumpet
United States2520 Posts
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Bowzar
Sweden741 Posts
Not sure how I feel about the mecha finale but LoK overall was alright but nowhere near as good as TLA. Korra had some character moments that really pissed me off. | ||
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malcram
2752 Posts
Super flawed character, very human in terms of her decisions, her belief that everything can be solved by talking. Lawful Good if you will. They even stripped her of her past lives. Further humanizing her. Everything done (poisoned by zaheer, being haunted by the zaheer fight) to her just made her less and less of a "superpower". She didn't even go into the avatar stage much in the last fight. And even if she did, it was more out of necessity rather than using it to destroy. I felt that kinda ran parallel to the Earth Kingdom and it's eventual abolishment of the monarchy. Didn't like Bataar Jr's character though. I also hated how Kuvira's face changed the moment the spirit weapon went crazy. She went from super psycho who resolved to do everything it took to get what she wanted, to instant regret. But i'll just chalk that down as the writers having to do that due to having to wrap up the series quick. | ||
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Bowzar
Sweden741 Posts
On December 20 2014 06:53 Grumbels wrote: There is something odd about Asami as a character though, she seems to merely exist as a foil or to advance some plot. She is directly involved in many plot developments, but somehow seems to always be on the periphery of those scenes with the focus being on Korra or Bolin or whomever. I think the show would have benefited with more scenes where Asami is the emotional center to make her feel like a main character and not a side character. edit: I'm not sure I'm explaining it well, but I just feel like she is always the least important character in any typical LoK scene and she feels a bit tacked on. Maybe rewatching the show with my Korrasami glasses on will improve my opinion of her though. >.> Shes not a bender, shes not the leader, shes not funny and shes not really the brains of the group... Shes hot tho so that kinda makes her important, right? | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On December 20 2014 15:44 Bowzar wrote: Pandering at its best. I heard Supernatural had an episode where one of the male main characters turns into a woman and then fucks his brother and now we have Korra and Asami. Two ladies that doesnt seem close at all until season 3 and now they wanna fuck in the spirit world. Okay then. Not sure how I feel about the mecha finale but LoK overall was alright but nowhere near as good as TLA. Korra had some character moments that really pissed me off. Right around Season 3 you get a clear vibe of "fuck you Nickolodeon". Wouldn't be surprised if the directors and writers just decided to mess with a lot of the Networks rules and guidelines after it became clear how much the series was getting screwed over. Things like the Earth Queen's execution and P'li's death probably pushed a lot of lines. | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
1. Where the fuck was the Fire Nation army that was supposed to protect the city. 2. Why the hell did Kovira just give up? I mean, shit was going bad... but her whole character just completely 180'd on a dime. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On December 20 2014 18:46 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: K was just thinking about the final episode and I have two questions. 1. Where the fuck was the Fire Nation army that was supposed to protect the city. 2. Why the hell did Kovira just give up? I mean, shit was going bad... but her whole character just completely 180'd on a dime. The Fire Nation army surrendered with Republic City's. General Iroh told Korra to get away from the front lines, remember? | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On December 20 2014 18:48 WolfintheSheep wrote: The Fire Nation army surrendered with Republic City's. General Iroh told Korra to get away from the front lines, remember? Oh fuck yes I'm retarded, of course. Still, when Kovira starts destroying everything after the surrender... you'd think they might step in. | ||
]343[
United States10328 Posts
On December 20 2014 18:48 WolfintheSheep wrote: The Fire Nation army surrendered with Republic City's. General Iroh told Korra to get away from the front lines, remember? No, that was the United Forces (Iroh's a general for the United Forces, not Republic City) the Fire Nation army seemed MIA (except there seemed to be 2 battalions of Firebenders in Iroh's army, so maybe one of them was the Fire Nation support?) Anyway, I like that Korra finally grew as a character. She finally picked up the "Aang" traits (being able to forgive, learning to talk things through instead of fight), just as Aang picked up the "Korra" traits (being aggressive and decisive when necessary). I really appreciated that Korra was willing to risk a lot to save Kuvira from the spirit weapon. The creation of the spirit portal is also very cool; I guess Harmonic Convergence already meant Korra was one of the greatest Avatars ever, but creating a spirit portal is (I believe) something only Vaatu has done before. Korrasami is pretty good. Zhu Li / Varrick getting married is also excellent (I actually didn't expect a proposal, tbh, just maybe a kiss...) Things I wish were a little bit better about the finale: Fire Nation was MIA, as mentioned above Bolin didn't get a final scene with Korra Spirits not doing anything at all and just reappearing for the lulz No Katara/Toph/Zuko No closing scene for the air babies :/ Things I wish were a little bit better about Season 4: Not really any Bumi/Kya Kuvira wasn't that compelling... she seemed kinda forced, tbh, because the plot dictated (lol) that either some strong leader would rise up and try to unite the Earth Kingdom, or it'd devolve into a lot of warlords (which is a story that's much more difficult to tell well). As someone mentioned earlier, she waffled between "evil bitch" and "someone who cared about her people" whenever it was convenient. Giant mech was ok, I guess, but not amazing Things I wish were better as a whole: Fire Nation was MIA in the whole thing I feel like Asami didn't get that much character development other than her relationships with the rest of Team Avatar / Varrick / her dad. I still don't really see what kind of person she is. She doesn't seem to have any real faults (other than holding grudges, but way less than Katara did). Korra being a butt in early Season 2 was super annoying Overall: I'm glad Bryke were able to expand on such a deep universe and come up with fresh (though not always compelling) storylines and more backstory. Korra grew a lot as a character, though not that many other characters seemed to change / learn from their mistakes that much (other than in pretty obvious situations: Bolin/Varrick with Kuvira, for example.) Lots of the secondary characters were either very funny (Varrick) or badass (Zaheer and co, Suyin/Lin). The (non-firebending) fight choreography, animation/art (at least the Studio Mir part), and music were all excellent. The show touched on lots of pertinent modern-day political/ethical (class inequality, environmentalism, different forms of government and the difficulty of ruling people compassionately and effectively, use of military force, homosexuality) and personal (making peace with yourself after traumatic events, how not to deal with relationships) issues. After the ending, I feel like the show definitely went somewhere, so I'm pretty happy about it as a whole; still, I feel like there were some strings of kinda lame episodes, which puts it a bit behind AtLA in my book. | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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]343[
United States10328 Posts
On December 20 2014 19:30 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Ya, if there's one thing we can all agree on, it's that Korra just wasn't as good as Last Airbender overall. Especially season 2 of Korra... fuck that season. Wan was good though  And I enjoyed the Spirit World stuff because it expanded the "canon Avatar universe," which I found pretty interesting.But Korra was a butt for most of the season, and the ending was ???, heh. | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On December 20 2014 19:34 ]343[ wrote: Wan was good though And I enjoyed the Spirit World stuff because it expanded the "canon Avatar universe," which I found pretty interesting.But Korra was a butt for most of the season, and the ending was ???, heh. Everything about that season felt like someone pulled it out of there butt 10 minutes before they had to submit a story. Then they wrote themselves into a corner and had to make Jinora super OP to fix it all in the end.... Idk it just felt so sloppy to me | ||
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
In other news, for those who think Korrasami isn't a thing, here's an article by Vanity Fair, linked by one of the creators/writers from the show (on his Facebook page). The words in the article aren't his by any means, but he certainly didn't quote the part he did by mistake. | ||
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sabas123
Netherlands3122 Posts
On December 20 2014 19:59 Spaylz wrote: I think Legend of Korra is almost on par with TLA for me. They suffered from issues they didn't in TLA, and the one big mess-up they had was the ending of Book 2, which could have been handled a lot better. In other news, for those who think Korrasami isn't a thing, here's an article by Vanity Fair, linked by one of the creators/writers from the show (on his Facebook page). The words in the article aren't his by any means, but he certainly didn't quote the part he did by mistake. I saw on reddit that he let the story board saw a diffrent version of the ending just to keep it a secret for them aswell0_o | ||
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Grumbels
Netherlands7031 Posts
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
On December 20 2014 21:29 Grumbels wrote: It would be nice if there was at least a precedent for lbgt relationships in the series beforehand though. You kinda get the feeling that the one they do have is "special", which is progress for children television but not as ideal as if it were normal. Also, it seems like many kids watching would miss that it's a romantic relationship while all the older viewers would pick it up, so that's also not ideal. But it's still okay I guess. I wonder what forces exist to make the writers have to be careful about this issue, is it purely religious crazies threatening revenge or is it Nick policy or are there legal issues or..? It's just dangerous grounds to tread on. Gay marriage is becoming legal in more countries. Even in France, which I consider to be a progressive - albeit paradoxal in many ways - country (women's right to vote in the 40's, women's right to abortion in the 70's, good healthcare, etc.) gay marriage was met with serious controversy. According to polls, about 45% of the population was against it. The real ratio is probably lower, but still. And yeah, it's a kid's show. Most kids aren't going to pick up on the ending. Teenagers will raise an eyebrow and ask themselves what it was really about, and most adults will know what it meant. It's important to remember that, while it is a kid's show, it does have a large adult fan-base. I think they handled it very well. It was subtle, it made sense, and it was credible due to the many hints they dropped along the way. Props to them, really. | ||
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Skilledblob
Germany3392 Posts
On December 20 2014 21:29 Grumbels wrote: It would be nice if there was at least a precedent for lbgt relationships in the series beforehand though. You kinda get the feeling that the one they do have is "special", which is progress for children television but not as ideal as if it were normal. Also, it seems like many kids watching would miss that it's a romantic relationship while all the older viewers would pick it up, so that's also not ideal. But it's still okay I guess. I wonder what forces exist to make the writers have to be careful about this issue, is it purely religious crazies threatening revenge or is it Nick policy or are there legal issues or..? dont quote me on this but my guess would be that a) Nickelodeon doesnt really want to show a fully fleshed out gay/lesbian relationship because god forbid kids learn that that is nothing special or weird that should not be demonized b) showing a gay/lesbian kiss scene would bump up the age rating maybe ? | ||
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