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kaablewy
Profile Joined May 2011
3 Posts
December 20 2014 13:32 GMT
#5241
I'm confused by anyone who is confused by kuvira instantly surrendering. Korra had just taken a blast from the spirit weapon head on. Yeah they had that talk in the spirit world to solve things by talking supposedly. But seriously. You see your opponent counter a shot from your super weapon and you start rethinking your commitment to this fight.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-20 18:02:39
December 20 2014 16:23 GMT
#5242
I mean, they basically dropped the Avatar world's version on a nuke directly on to her head and she just channeled it into a spirit portal. What is Kuvira going to do, fight the Avatar some more until she breaks out the Avatar state and destroys her entire army?

At that point, the only thing that would have happened is Kuvira getting her entire army killed and she wasn't all terrible(she was like 90% of the way there and would have become more terrible over time). Remember the point of the series is that all villains think they are doing good.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Millitron
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2611 Posts
December 20 2014 17:41 GMT
#5243
On December 21 2014 01:23 Plansix wrote:
I mean, they basically dropped the Avatar world's version on a nuke directly on to her head and she just channeled it into a spirit portal. What is Kuvira going to do, fight the Avatar some more until she breaks out the Avatar state and destroys her entire army?

At that point, the only thing that would have happened is Kuvira getting her entire army killed and she wasn't all terrible(she was like 90% of the way there and would have become more terrible over time). Remember the point of the series is that all villains thing they are doing good.

And Amon was.
Who called in the fleet?
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
December 20 2014 17:56 GMT
#5244
On December 21 2014 02:41 Millitron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2014 01:23 Plansix wrote:
I mean, they basically dropped the Avatar world's version on a nuke directly on to her head and she just channeled it into a spirit portal. What is Kuvira going to do, fight the Avatar some more until she breaks out the Avatar state and destroys her entire army?

At that point, the only thing that would have happened is Kuvira getting her entire army killed and she wasn't all terrible(she was like 90% of the way there and would have become more terrible over time). Remember the point of the series is that all villains thing they are doing good.

And Amon was.

Equalists were not completely evil and thought they were making the world a fairer place for non-benders.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 20 2014 18:03 GMT
#5245
On December 21 2014 02:56 Grumbels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2014 02:41 Millitron wrote:
On December 21 2014 01:23 Plansix wrote:
I mean, they basically dropped the Avatar world's version on a nuke directly on to her head and she just channeled it into a spirit portal. What is Kuvira going to do, fight the Avatar some more until she breaks out the Avatar state and destroys her entire army?

At that point, the only thing that would have happened is Kuvira getting her entire army killed and she wasn't all terrible(she was like 90% of the way there and would have become more terrible over time). Remember the point of the series is that all villains thing they are doing good.

And Amon was.

Equalists were not completely evil and thought they were making the world a fairer place for non-benders.

By taking away the lively hoods and skills of benders.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
December 20 2014 18:04 GMT
#5246
On December 20 2014 22:32 kaablewy wrote:
I'm confused by anyone who is confused by kuvira instantly surrendering. Korra had just taken a blast from the spirit weapon head on. Yeah they had that talk in the spirit world to solve things by talking supposedly. But seriously. You see your opponent counter a shot from your super weapon and you start rethinking your commitment to this fight.



It's not the surrender it's how she completely changed. I'm sorry but you don't change from being a ruthless dictator who even went as far as to kill their fiancee just to get the avatar to what ended up happening at the end.
When I think of something else, something will go here
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-20 18:48:32
December 20 2014 18:46 GMT
#5247
On December 21 2014 03:04 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2014 22:32 kaablewy wrote:
I'm confused by anyone who is confused by kuvira instantly surrendering. Korra had just taken a blast from the spirit weapon head on. Yeah they had that talk in the spirit world to solve things by talking supposedly. But seriously. You see your opponent counter a shot from your super weapon and you start rethinking your commitment to this fight.



It's not the surrender it's how she completely changed. I'm sorry but you don't change from being a ruthless dictator who even went as far as to kill their fiancee just to get the avatar to what ended up happening at the end.


You do when you have like, 10 minutes to wrap up a whole series lol

I choose to think that she was slowly realizing she was taking things too far, but felt she had no choice but to see it through to the bitter end, but then seeing Korra take that spirit blast full on and be willing to risk her life for a bitter enemy was a huge eye opener.
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sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
December 20 2014 19:25 GMT
#5248
this show was something special, always after a watching an episode it manged to calm me so much that I was pretty much sad for 2 days

I will mis this show
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
December 20 2014 19:38 GMT
#5249
I am looking forward to a new show of the guys who made AtLA and Korra
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
December 20 2014 20:27 GMT
#5250
On December 21 2014 04:38 Skilledblob wrote:
I am looking forward to a new show of the guys who made AtLA and Korra

we probably will have to wait for 2 or 3 years, also they said that they prolly wont make another avatar (atleast for now)
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-20 20:37:36
December 20 2014 20:28 GMT
#5251
On December 20 2014 15:44 Bowzar wrote:
Pandering at its best. I heard Supernatural had an episode where one of the male main characters turns into a woman and then fucks his brother and now we have Korra and Asami. Two ladies that doesnt seem close at all until season 3 and now they wanna fuck in the spirit world. Okay then.

Not sure how I feel about the mecha finale but LoK overall was alright but nowhere near as good as TLA. Korra had some character moments that really pissed me off.

It's not right to compare trash like Supernatural to Korra. The effects in supernatural were junk and the episodes used the same templates so often they could be compared to Pokemon or the new Simpson's episodes. "Supernatural Evil Thing(i)s blasting off again!" *twinkle*

And the writers had at least these two ways they could have gone about the fanservice:
1. Ignore the fans and just do what was in their minds originally
2. Make their fans happy by doing the things they want to see

When I started looking at it like that I started to understand their decision to include all the fanservice.

On December 21 2014 02:41 Millitron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2014 01:23 Plansix wrote:
I mean, they basically dropped the Avatar world's version on a nuke directly on to her head and she just channeled it into a spirit portal. What is Kuvira going to do, fight the Avatar some more until she breaks out the Avatar state and destroys her entire army?

At that point, the only thing that would have happened is Kuvira getting her entire army killed and she wasn't all terrible(she was like 90% of the way there and would have become more terrible over time). Remember the point of the series is that all villains thing they are doing good.

And Amon was.

In no case were the bad guys evil. Except maybe Vaatu, because he's the embodiment of darkness and evil in the Avatar Universe.
edit: I guess it depends how you define evil. I mean they don't have devils prodding them. They think they're doing something good.

The bad guys just went too far every time. The equalists took people's bending away. They should have just voted for nonbending democratically elected leaders and representatives to champion them. It wasn't too clear how nonbenders were treated like second class citizens either.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
December 20 2014 20:52 GMT
#5252
How can it be fanservice? Season 3 and 4 were done together more than a year ago, the story probably even earlier. Of course there was a fan base for Korra and Asami right from the beginnig, but it only got huge starting in the middle of season 3.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-20 20:57:05
December 20 2014 20:55 GMT
#5253
On December 21 2014 05:52 Warri wrote:
How can it be fanservice? Season 3 and 4 were done together more than a year ago, the story probably even earlier. Of course there was a fan base for Korra and Asami right from the beginnig, but it only got huge starting in the middle of season 3.

Shipping and romance have been pretty big in every season though. They chose a ship and lightly nudged it after they saw the interest develop.

Iroh 1, Zuko, and Toph were definitely fan service. And the line about Toph not wanting to fight Kuvira was resolution to appease the fan base.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
December 20 2014 20:58 GMT
#5254
I found this regarding a gay couple in some Disney show earlier this year:

(link)

One Million Moms launched an email campaign in 2013 that urged Disney officials to abandon their plans to corrupt the children’s network with LGBT content. However, Disney officials have not responded to the thousands of emails protesting their plans. Disney has decided to be politically correct instead of providing family-friendly programming. Disney should stick to entertaining, not pushing an agenda.
Conservative families need to urge Disney to avoid controversial topics that children are far too young to comprehend. This is the last place a parent would expect their children to be confronted with topics that are too difficult for them to understand. Mature issues of this nature are being introduced too early and too soon, and it is extremely unnecessary.


Apparently there is such a thing as organized campaigns by reactionaries to try to sabotage depictions of homosexuality in children entertainment under various guise like the seemingly innocent "they're too young to understand" and the more outright malicious "stop trying to corrupt our youth!".

I haven't heard about any backlash against LoK so far, but I suppose there are various reasons why this show might fly under the radar.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-20 21:01:13
December 20 2014 20:59 GMT
#5255
I think some people forget just how bad the Avatar team is at writing romance in general. Sokka and Bolin had the girl of the week thing going, where they just shows up in a place and have a love interest until they finally settle down. Mai and Zuko were just like "I'm back, let's kiss" (discounting that one flashback when they were kids and Mai blushed or something?). There's probably a good reason they don't even mention Toph's hookups except in passing gags.

Then there was Zaheer and P'li, and Kuvira and Bataar Jr., where you couldn't even tell if Zaheer and Kuvira were just being manipulative until P'li dies and Kuvira actually looks remorseful when she fires the cannon on Bataar.

And Season 1 of LoK was clearly trying to push Mako and Korra as a couple, but they bumbled it so badly that Season 2 basically had to hammer in that all the previous romance was just not working at all.

So, sure, Korra and Asami might feel "forced" a bit, but at least it had some slow burn quality to it, unlike every single relationship that wasn't Aang and Katara. Well, and maybe Varrick and Zhu Li.

On December 21 2014 05:58 Grumbels wrote:
I haven't heard about any backlash against LoK so far, but I suppose there are various reasons why this show might fly under the radar.

They probably got away with a lot more after Nickolodeon shunted them into a web stream.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
December 20 2014 21:10 GMT
#5256
I read somewhere most of the production team were showed another ending then this one (with Korra and Asami not being all lesbian with each other)
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
December 20 2014 21:13 GMT
#5257
I guess I'm the only one who thought they weren't going for a lesbian thing at the end... just a good friends thing. Holding hands doesn't make them a couple guys. I'm all for having lesbian/bisexual characters in a show like that, but that wasn't a case of this
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WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
December 20 2014 21:20 GMT
#5258
On December 21 2014 06:13 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I guess I'm the only one who thought they weren't going for a lesbian thing at the end... just a good friends thing. Holding hands doesn't make them a couple guys. I'm all for having lesbian/bisexual characters in a show like that, but that wasn't a case of this

Except it was an exact mirror of TLA's ending scene, sans kiss. At the very least, there was a conscious decision to try and draw a parallel.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
December 20 2014 21:26 GMT
#5259
On December 21 2014 06:13 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I guess I'm the only one who thought they weren't going for a lesbian thing at the end... just a good friends thing. Holding hands doesn't make them a couple guys. I'm all for having lesbian/bisexual characters in a show like that, but that wasn't a case of this


In the Avatar universe, that particular pose of hand holding depicts love.

There's a clear pattern here. Also, yes, this was a mirroring of TLA's finale. Really, all the signs are there.
I like words.
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
December 20 2014 21:26 GMT
#5260
[image loading]



I see the ending not as "look at these two lesbians they are gonna bang in the spirit world!"

I see it more as the two seeing their mutual attraction to each other, them acting on that attraction, and maybe something more will grow out of it.
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