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otgomni
Profile Joined March 2012
United States33 Posts
June 12 2012 06:41 GMT
#781
Worth the 5.50 I paid at the theatre.

8/10 would bang.
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
June 12 2012 07:21 GMT
#782
I didn't feel great about it, but didn't feel horrible about it either. It was nice to see a horror/sci-fi that opted for slow and deliberate pacing rather than anal fisting or limbs being sawed off in the first 15 minutes. Ultimately though, the characters weren't well developed or likeable and the dialog and script weren't well written even though the underlying plot was decent. 5/10, not offensive bad, but not something you could watch twice.
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Bloodash
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands1384 Posts
June 12 2012 07:24 GMT
#783
sums it up pretty well: (spoilers)
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ilikeredheads
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1995 Posts
June 12 2012 07:40 GMT
#784
On June 12 2012 15:00 Brett wrote:
I was quite disappointed by the disproportionate level of stupidity displayed by the characters in Prometheus, but I think a lot of you are being generous in your comparisons to Alien...

Does nobody remember this stuff?



* The captain, not really knowing what this thing is, goes down into a metal ventilation shaft of sorts by himself, where his movement is effectively restrained by his surroundings, in order to force it into a corner / hunt it. They then pick up the alien on the make-shift movement sensor and are able to tell him that it is moving towards him, and yet he cannot manouevre himself into a position where he can be sure of the alien's location (never mind that they have detailed plans of the vents and yet can't tell him where the fuck it's coming from). He also doesn't hear the alien coming, nor apparently look behind in an elongated shaft.

* The captain dies. And next minute the black guy shows up with the captain's flame thrower, np?

* Ripley running around by herself worrying about a fucking cat while a deadly alien creature is loose on the ship and killing everyone.

* The other, blonde woman is paralysed with fear (presumably) when confronted with the alien, and yet the black guy, who has a fucking flame thrower, refuses to shoot the damn thing or at least fire some form of warning shot to draw its attention. Okay, if he shoots, MAYBE she gets burnt and dies, so I can understand some hesitation. However, if he doesn't shoot, she dies anyway. What does he do? He attempts to RUN AT THE FUCKING THING, and gets slapped the fuck down by its tail. They both die. Dumb as fuck.

Anyway, there was a post a few pages back saying that Scott had referenced some Persian mythology, and that it fit the storyline here in Prometheus. That actually made for an interesting theory, and was the sort of information that the movie needed to present in order to not be the clusterfuck of unanswered questions that it was.

Ultimately it was a nice concept, poorly executed with great visuals and dumb-as-dogs balls characters.


The crew in Alien is a bunch of "blue-collar workers" so to speak who were never trained to deal with alien spaceship and hostile alien. In fact, they were reluctant to goto the planet in the first place. However, in Prometheus, the entire crew is hand-picked specifically for the mission and yet they do the stupidest and cliche things possible.
imJealous
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1382 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-12 07:57:13
June 12 2012 07:48 GMT
#785
Here's an episode of a talk show on Hulu I watched today where they interview the WRITER of prometheus Damon Lindelof.... Skip to the middle if you don't just want to hear a bunch of movie goers talk about what they thought of the movie

http://www.hulu.com/watch/369061

All the people bashing Ridley Scott for the story of this movie don't seem to understand that he didn't write it. Damon Lindelof (Lost) did... He explains in this interview that he is the one responsible for changing the story from being an "Alien" movie to what it is.

On June 11 2012 23:30 Tobberoth wrote:
6. This is more speculative, but probably what I found most annoying. It makes perfect sense that the ship found in Alien 1 is the engineer ship downed in the end of Prometheus. It obviously looks similar and it makes sense that Weyland would know about the place and a bit of what happened so they could put the android on the ship and make them get samples. I went into this movie thinking it certain that this would take place on the same planet they reach in Alien. Unfortunately, this is made impossible by Prometheus, here's some reasons:
* The ship in alien 1 had an engineer with a burst chest in the pilot seat, this one does not.
* The planet looks completely different.
* There should be wreckage etc from Prometheus close to the ship, nothing of the sort in Alien 1.

I can only assume that it was never intended to be the same planet, but that just makes Prometheus so useless that they could probably have removed all connections to the aliens universe and we would have been better off.

Alien/Aliens take place on LV 426. Prometheus takes place on LV 233.
In my personal opinion, its possible that the "engineer" with its chest busted open in Alien may be Noomi Rapace
... In life very little goes right. "Right" meaning the way one expected and the way one wanted it. One has no right to want or expect anything.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
June 12 2012 07:55 GMT
#786
So he is the one worthy of all our hate?

Ridley Scott produced the movie he could have made changes.

Also, RedLetterMedia always delivers.
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3822 Posts
June 12 2012 08:29 GMT
#787
On June 12 2012 16:40 ilikeredheads wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2012 15:00 Brett wrote:
I was quite disappointed by the disproportionate level of stupidity displayed by the characters in Prometheus, but I think a lot of you are being generous in your comparisons to Alien...

Does nobody remember this stuff?



* The captain, not really knowing what this thing is, goes down into a metal ventilation shaft of sorts by himself, where his movement is effectively restrained by his surroundings, in order to force it into a corner / hunt it. They then pick up the alien on the make-shift movement sensor and are able to tell him that it is moving towards him, and yet he cannot manouevre himself into a position where he can be sure of the alien's location (never mind that they have detailed plans of the vents and yet can't tell him where the fuck it's coming from). He also doesn't hear the alien coming, nor apparently look behind in an elongated shaft.

* The captain dies. And next minute the black guy shows up with the captain's flame thrower, np?

* Ripley running around by herself worrying about a fucking cat while a deadly alien creature is loose on the ship and killing everyone.

* The other, blonde woman is paralysed with fear (presumably) when confronted with the alien, and yet the black guy, who has a fucking flame thrower, refuses to shoot the damn thing or at least fire some form of warning shot to draw its attention. Okay, if he shoots, MAYBE she gets burnt and dies, so I can understand some hesitation. However, if he doesn't shoot, she dies anyway. What does he do? He attempts to RUN AT THE FUCKING THING, and gets slapped the fuck down by its tail. They both die. Dumb as fuck.

Anyway, there was a post a few pages back saying that Scott had referenced some Persian mythology, and that it fit the storyline here in Prometheus. That actually made for an interesting theory, and was the sort of information that the movie needed to present in order to not be the clusterfuck of unanswered questions that it was.

Ultimately it was a nice concept, poorly executed with great visuals and dumb-as-dogs balls characters.


The crew in Alien is a bunch of "blue-collar workers" so to speak who were never trained to deal with alien spaceship and hostile alien. In fact, they were reluctant to goto the planet in the first place. However, in Prometheus, the entire crew is hand-picked specifically for the mission and yet they do the stupidest and cliche things possible.

I understand that difference in the calibre of these people, but disagree entirely that that excuses the stupidity I outlined in my initial post. They are dumb actions for different reasons, but dumb nonetheless.
FallDownMarigold
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3710 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-12 08:42:43
June 12 2012 08:35 GMT
#788
On June 12 2012 17:29 Brett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2012 16:40 ilikeredheads wrote:
On June 12 2012 15:00 Brett wrote:
I was quite disappointed by the disproportionate level of stupidity displayed by the characters in Prometheus, but I think a lot of you are being generous in your comparisons to Alien...

Does nobody remember this stuff?



* The captain, not really knowing what this thing is, goes down into a metal ventilation shaft of sorts by himself, where his movement is effectively restrained by his surroundings, in order to force it into a corner / hunt it. They then pick up the alien on the make-shift movement sensor and are able to tell him that it is moving towards him, and yet he cannot manouevre himself into a position where he can be sure of the alien's location (never mind that they have detailed plans of the vents and yet can't tell him where the fuck it's coming from). He also doesn't hear the alien coming, nor apparently look behind in an elongated shaft.

* The captain dies. And next minute the black guy shows up with the captain's flame thrower, np?

* Ripley running around by herself worrying about a fucking cat while a deadly alien creature is loose on the ship and killing everyone.

* The other, blonde woman is paralysed with fear (presumably) when confronted with the alien, and yet the black guy, who has a fucking flame thrower, refuses to shoot the damn thing or at least fire some form of warning shot to draw its attention. Okay, if he shoots, MAYBE she gets burnt and dies, so I can understand some hesitation. However, if he doesn't shoot, she dies anyway. What does he do? He attempts to RUN AT THE FUCKING THING, and gets slapped the fuck down by its tail. They both die. Dumb as fuck.

Anyway, there was a post a few pages back saying that Scott had referenced some Persian mythology, and that it fit the storyline here in Prometheus. That actually made for an interesting theory, and was the sort of information that the movie needed to present in order to not be the clusterfuck of unanswered questions that it was.

Ultimately it was a nice concept, poorly executed with great visuals and dumb-as-dogs balls characters.


The crew in Alien is a bunch of "blue-collar workers" so to speak who were never trained to deal with alien spaceship and hostile alien. In fact, they were reluctant to goto the planet in the first place. However, in Prometheus, the entire crew is hand-picked specifically for the mission and yet they do the stupidest and cliche things possible.

I understand that difference in the calibre of these people, but disagree entirely that that excuses the stupidity I outlined in my initial post. They are dumb actions for different reasons, but dumb nonetheless.


I would add that simply having a PhD in whatever or X years experience operating Y type of spacecraft does not preclude a given level of stupidity in unexpected life/death situations. Maybe the company that invested $1 trillion didn't screen for life/death badassery. So I'd feel free to criticize them for being stupid, but wouldn't appeal to their authority as handpicked scientists and explorers with that alone being the reason they shouldn't have done stupid things
-Cyrus-
Profile Joined June 2011
United States318 Posts
June 12 2012 08:52 GMT
#789
This was one of the worst films I have ever seen. I can't believe how bad movies are these days.
Nazarid
Profile Joined February 2010
United States445 Posts
June 12 2012 09:04 GMT
#790
On June 12 2012 17:52 -Cyrus- wrote:
This was one of the worst films I have ever seen. I can't believe how bad movies are these days.


explain? because " was the worst film i have ever seen " is a baseless lie and you know it. im not defending the movie just the response you added to the thread.

I thought it was 3 stars out of 5 movie. the plot was a little weak, as well as most of the story was 100% see thru giving no real twists, but was still a decent movie. Wait to rent it, not really a theater movie.
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Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3822 Posts
June 12 2012 10:17 GMT
#791
Fairly accurate? lol

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
June 12 2012 10:19 GMT
#792
On June 12 2012 19:17 Brett wrote:
Fairly accurate? lol

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]



LOL I don't know why that is making me laugh so hard.
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2yph0n
Profile Joined June 2012
47 Posts
June 12 2012 14:48 GMT
#793
On June 12 2012 15:27 XXXSmOke wrote:
Im losing faith in Sci Fi

I think Aliens was just to perfect, that movie still scares the absolute shit out of me. Even after seeing it a bunch, it was just so well put together the script/visuals/suspense/action/terror.

Every Sci-Fi movie now lacks all of this, to many special effects, to many bad scripts, etc.

I want to be blown away, and be terrified out of my fucking mind,

Prometheus just kept me thinking it was finally going to get good and then just kept failing and failing.



Woah I wouldn't say that Sci-Fi lost its luster. Recently Moon and Sunshine really got me gripping on my seat. Especially Sunshine, the atmosphere is just out of the world (no pun intended). As overrated as Inception is with myself believing it to be a complete rip-off from the Japanese Anime film 'Paprika' in which have brought my imagination to a whole new level, Inception still managed to capture my interests long enough despite the necessary grieving subplot of the Titanic dude. That along earned a 8/10 from me.

We still have two new science fiction movies coming along by the names of 'Looper' and redux of the Total Recall movie, I think those two have the potential to become blockbuster hits.
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coldSnaH
Profile Joined June 2012
50 Posts
June 12 2012 15:01 GMT
#794
Idk why everyone is saying Prometheus was bad, maybe I was only one who saw it in 3-d at a huge movie theatre? But it was freaking awesome!
GomJabbar
Profile Joined February 2011
United States161 Posts
June 12 2012 15:05 GMT
#795
Just saw this last night. Movie definitely had a LOT of issues. Gaping plot holes, ridiculous lack of explanation, dumb characters, etc. That said, it was beautiful to look at, and it brought up some interesting ideas and cool implications for the Alien universe, as well as other movie references and other things. The direction was terrific; it's the writing that was goddamn awful. It's really appropriate that this is from one of the writers of Lost. The whole series strung you along with mysteries and good directing and crazy twists and insane implications. Then the ending gave NO good explanations and it all just sort of deflated into a terrible mess before just ENDING.

I've read a lot of the internet theories, and the interviews with the writer and with Ridley Scott, and I feel like I'm understanding most of the movie at this point, and with that information the story is actually decent. But that stuff WAS NOT IN THE MOVIE, which is obviously a huge problem.

I guess 7/10 for me. Interesting, some good things about the movie, but a ton of flaws too.
teamamerica
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States958 Posts
June 12 2012 15:08 GMT
#796
Watched Prometheus, was majorly disappointed, because I thought it was only ok and I had this memory of Alien being super scary. Rewatched Alien - don't know why I was hyped about it at all. Alien isn't scary at all really to me now, and I'd much rather watch Prometheus over Alien as both have stupid plots but at least Prometheus is visually appealing. Maybe seeing it imax 3d contributed a bit to that.
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arQ
Profile Joined October 2010
1033 Posts
June 12 2012 15:14 GMT
#797
Is he trolling us? The expectations I had... and the piece of shit movie that I got. What a joke.

2/10.
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mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-12 16:07:42
June 12 2012 16:04 GMT
#798
total garbage, 2/10 at best

so much stupid shit in that movie

the 3D visual saved it from being a 0-10, numerous walkouts from the cinema i was in
DawN883
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden558 Posts
June 12 2012 16:06 GMT
#799
On June 13 2012 00:01 coldSnaH wrote:
Idk why everyone is saying Prometheus was bad, maybe I was only one who saw it in 3-d at a huge movie theatre? But it was freaking awesome!


I also saw it in 3D. 3D didn't save the movie
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GohgamX
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada1096 Posts
June 12 2012 16:11 GMT
#800
On June 12 2012 16:21 Drowsy wrote:
I didn't feel great about it, but didn't feel horrible about it either. It was nice to see a horror/sci-fi that opted for slow and deliberate pacing rather than anal fisting or limbs being sawed off in the first 15 minutes. Ultimately though, the characters weren't well developed or likeable and the dialog and script weren't well written even though the underlying plot was decent. 5/10, not offensive bad, but not something you could watch twice.



I couldn't agree more, thank you.
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