EPTI was entertain but disappointed as well. It is a solid movie if you are new to the Alien Franchise.
[Movie] Prometheus - Page 39
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DMXD
United States4064 Posts
I was entertain but disappointed as well. It is a solid movie if you are new to the Alien Franchise. | ||
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Deadlyhazard
United States1177 Posts
On June 12 2012 06:02 MooseyFate wrote: I think it has more to do with how much nerd culture in general loves the 'Alien' movies and what they represent for the Sci-Fi genre. When you have the director of the original at the helm, you expect a similar greatness. Combine that with top of the line special effects, some high-caliber actors (Fassbender) and a few years of hype, you get a lot of longtime fans incredibly excited to see the origins of one of the greatest Sci-Fi universes ever created in film. What you get is a hodge-podge of poorly written cliches with notable pacing and plot issues that manages to maintain ZERO of the atmosphere/style of the originals. That's probably why people are bashing it. Or you can just keep thinking it's because nerds like being hipsters and jumping on bandwagons. Your call. I don't know what nerds are expecting, Ridley Scott must've had someone carrying that studio to greatness besides him for Alien, because the large majority of his films are absolutely awful. Gladiator, Kingdom of Heaven, and every other film I've seen from him has been full of cliches and rather poor plot elements. IDK why anyone praises directors like this. It's like he's a more classy version of Michael Bay, but still like Mr. Bay. | ||
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
On June 12 2012 04:20 mikehall683 wrote: One thing to keep in mind is that this is the theatrical version. Ridley Scott has stated that the dvd will have about 20-30 minutes of deleted material, so we definitely aren't seeing the full story... Have you seen the theatrical version of Blade Runner?! Really? I´ve seen the movie twice and there are too many unanswered questions and loose ends. Hearing that it is an unfinished movie makes me feel cheated. This is the first time I´m disappointed that the DVD-release is extended. | ||
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sc2superfan101
3583 Posts
On June 12 2012 07:06 Deadlyhazard wrote: I don't know what nerds are expecting, Ridley Scott must've had someone carrying that studio to greatness besides him for Alien, because the large majority of his films are absolutely awful. Gladiator, Kingdom of Heaven, and every other film I've seen from him has been full of cliches and rather poor plot elements. IDK why anyone praises directors like this. It's like he's a more classy version of Michael Bay, but still like Mr. Bay. look, everyone's got their opinions and whatnot, but there is a difference between a cliche and an archetype. Alien and Blade Runner were both pretty big movies in terms of sci-fi cinema, and sci-fi as a whole. his other movies are actually all pretty good, with a few exceptions. he's a pretty skilled director, and not really comparable to Michael Bay. it's surprising to see such amateurish mistakes in one of his movies, because even if you don't like him, he's been doing this for a long time. dude should know better. | ||
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ishyishy
United States826 Posts
The story line didnt impress me, and it felt like the beginning of the movie happened really really fast. For example, I dont think there was a scene of the ship actually taking off from Earth, there wasnt any kind of board meeting to discuss actually going through with this space exploration. It just kind of threw it at you. | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
On June 12 2012 05:38 teapot wrote: The Forbe's review pretty much nails it. http://www.forbes.com/sites/daviddisalvo/2012/06/11/review-prometheus-is-a-visually-stunning-epic-failure/ Perfect. | ||
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ilikeredheads
Canada1995 Posts
The amount of retardedness is staggering + Show Spoiler + - somehow 2 scientists get lost, even though the ship knows their location at all times. They have constant communication despite the huge storm outside. What's worse is that one of them is the guy who deployed the mapping probes WTF?? - those same 2 idiots freaks out when they see a pile of dead bodies, and yet when they see an unknown worm like creature, he goes "hello kitty kitty" - most of the crew were not briefed on the true nature of the mission until they've arrived. Who would sign up for 2+yr deep space journey without full knowledge of what they are getting themselves into?? - it was never explained why David infected that dude with the black goo - somehow it is a good idea to explore an unknown structure on an unknown planet complete UNARMED and touch everything they see. - it was also smart to remove helmet without know if there are any airborn viruses. - it is also a great idea to bring back an severed head in a bag and perform experiment on it in an open environment WITHOUT wearing the proper protective gear. - and then the head explodes for no reason - there was no point of actually sending humans to the planet if David is the one that did most of the exploring, translating, and button pushing. Just send a team of androids to do the job. - main character can withstand a TON of physical abuse despite just having cut her stomach open to remove an alien fetus | ||
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Kenshin_915
Canada139 Posts
On June 12 2012 06:10 O.P. wrote: This: http://spoonyexperiment.com/2012/06/08/vlog-6-8-12-prometheus/ This review hits the nail on the head for me. When I was watching the movie I simply couldn't enjoy it because of the amout of eye rolling I was doing every time another tired cliche or idiotic scene unfolded. I can't remeber the amout of times I thought to myself "...This is stupid" during the movie. If you think this movie is good, it's simply because you objectively have a shitty taste in movies. Character development? What's that? Original plot elements? Nope. Rational progression of dialogue? Fuck it, we'll just wing it. I'm not going to see the sequel because I have a feeling it will be just as inane. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13007 Posts
On June 12 2012 09:56 ilikeredheads wrote: At first, I didn't think too negatively about this movie. It wasn't great, but it's alright as a b-movie However, the more I think about the it, the more I realized this is probably just as bad as AvP. The amount of retardedness is staggering + Show Spoiler + - somehow 2 scientists get lost, even though the ship knows their location at all times. They have constant communication despite the huge storm outside. What's worse is that one of them is the guy who deployed the mapping probes WTF?? - those same 2 idiots freaks out when they see a pile of dead bodies, and yet when they see an unknown worm like creature, he goes "hello kitty kitty" - most of the crew were not briefed on the true nature of the mission until they've arrived. Who would sign up for 2+yr deep space journey without full knowledge of what they are getting themselves into?? - it was never explained why David infected that dude with the black goo - somehow it is a good idea to explore an unknown structure on an unknown planet complete UNARMED and touch everything they see. - it was also smart to remove helmet without know if there are any airborn viruses. - it is also a great idea to bring back an severed head in a bag and perform experiment on it in an open environment WITHOUT wearing the proper protective gear. - and then the head explodes for no reason - there was no point of actually sending humans to the planet if David is the one that did most of the exploring, translating, and button pushing. Just send a team of androids to do the job. - main character can withstand a TON of physical abuse despite just having cut her stomach open to remove an alien fetus + Show Spoiler + Your last point in particularly relevant. I've had my abdominals sliced like that before in surgery and shuffling around let alone walking/running is fucking painful  | ||
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itkovian
United States1763 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + I got tired of people doing reckless shit though. Like when the two stranded men were reaching out too touch the snake-like alien life form. Why the fuck would you do that? Also, when Shaw leaves the loading bay to retrieve the "Engineer" head from within the storm. That irritated me as well. It felt like all the characters had this mindless drive to mess with shit, without taking the time to do things properly and carefully. Taking all into consideration: 8/10 | ||
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biology]major
United States2253 Posts
On June 12 2012 11:27 itkovian wrote: Pretty solid movie. Constant suspense to pull you along. Its one of those movies that feels like it has ten endings, but you don't mind that it does. It was not over-heavy on the action, which I appreciated, it relied more on the build-up to the action parts. + Show Spoiler + I got tired of people doing reckless shit though. Like when the two stranded men were reaching out too touch the snake-like alien life form. Why the fuck would you do that? Also, when Shaw leaves the loading bay to retrieve the "Engineer" head from within the storm. That irritated me as well. It felt like all the characters had this mindless drive to mess with shit, without taking the time to do things properly and carefully. Taking all into consideration: 8/10 it had the elements necessary for a great sci-fi movie, but yeah the characters were unlikable and did stupid shit like it was their job, still though the movie was very entertaining imo. Excited for the sequel if there is one, the ending made it seem like there was going to be one soo we can only hope ! | ||
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itkovian
United States1763 Posts
On June 12 2012 11:31 biology]major wrote: it had the elements necessary for a great sci-fi movie, but yeah the characters were unlikable and did stupid shit like it was their job, still though the movie was very entertaining imo. Excited for the sequel if there is one, the ending made it seem like there was going to be one soo we can only hope ! Yeah, I didn't really like any of the characters particularly much either. The captain of the ship was cool I guess. But the protagonist drove me nuts. But like you said, it was still fun to watch and very aesthetically pleasing. The acting was convincing enough and the script was alright. The overarching plot was interesting, but the fine details of the plot didn't feel very well thought out. | ||
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CobaltBlu
United States919 Posts
There were some good scenes in here though like when the female scientist goes into the surgery pod where there was legitimate suspense there for me but then it didn't seem to connect to the rest of the film. That happened a lot. I'm convinced Charlize Theron's character could have been removed from the film entirely and nothing would have changed. After we left the theater my friend told me it felt like they threw a bunch of good things in a jar and shook it around a lot. | ||
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Bigtony
United States1606 Posts
On June 11 2012 17:13 ETisME wrote: not too sure about that. donnie darko required you to read that time travel book thingee for full understanding and rarely anything was explained in the movie. And yet it is one of the most interesting movie to watch and keep rewatching I love donnie darko, but two points: 1) the philosophy of time travel is "official" material, not fan made guess work. 2) donnie darko still makes sense on some level without it, because there are no rules to break (ie: crazy shit happens because that is what the movie sets us up for, and we should acknowledge that it's crazy without breaking our suspension of disbelief) | ||
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T0fuuu
Australia2275 Posts
The title prometheues did sound a bit weird to me cos egomaniac scientists/researchers/companies and the titan that stole fire and made human life was a bit weird but i gotta admit that spacejesus makes it all better! It is a bit convenient that 2000 years ago the engineers were planning on returning to earth to make the apocalype, we know this cos its the first thing the engineer wants to do when he wakes up lol. However it is even more convenient to overlook that 30000 years ago there was a planet being terraformed to be made into a biological weapons facility. And obviously so considering every dome is underground, sealed, with a ship and storage of a bunch of nasties. But the engineers obviously thought it was necessary to tell us this so many times in human history. Maybe its just a fun mockery of, a "MADE IN X" label that people put on things they manufacture and the engineers decided to put on humans >.> Who knows? cos by making this huge plothole they have avoided answering the whole "why were we made" question and possibly saved the movie from being even more pretentious. | ||
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b3n3tt3
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Blennd
United States266 Posts
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Brett
Australia3820 Posts
Does nobody remember this stuff? * The captain, not really knowing what this thing is, goes down into a metal ventilation shaft of sorts by himself, where his movement is effectively restrained by his surroundings, in order to force it into a corner / hunt it. They then pick up the alien on the make-shift movement sensor and are able to tell him that it is moving towards him, and yet he cannot manouevre himself into a position where he can be sure of the alien's location (never mind that they have detailed plans of the vents and yet can't tell him where the fuck it's coming from). He also doesn't hear the alien coming, nor apparently look behind in an elongated shaft. * The captain dies. And next minute the black guy shows up with the captain's flame thrower, np? * Ripley running around by herself worrying about a fucking cat while a deadly alien creature is loose on the ship and killing everyone. * The other, blonde woman is paralysed with fear (presumably) when confronted with the alien, and yet the black guy, who has a fucking flame thrower, refuses to shoot the damn thing or at least fire some form of warning shot to draw its attention. Okay, if he shoots, MAYBE she gets burnt and dies, so I can understand some hesitation. However, if he doesn't shoot, she dies anyway. What does he do? He attempts to RUN AT THE FUCKING THING, and gets slapped the fuck down by its tail. They both die. Dumb as fuck. Anyway, there was a post a few pages back saying that Scott had referenced some Persian mythology, and that it fit the storyline here in Prometheus. That actually made for an interesting theory, and was the sort of information that the movie needed to present in order to not be the clusterfuck of unanswered questions that it was. Ultimately it was a nice concept, poorly executed with great visuals and dumb-as-dogs balls characters. | ||
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XXXSmOke
United States1333 Posts
I think Aliens was just to perfect, that movie still scares the absolute shit out of me. Even after seeing it a bunch, it was just so well put together the script/visuals/suspense/action/terror. Every Sci-Fi movie now lacks all of this, to many special effects, to many bad scripts, etc. I want to be blown away, and be terrified out of my fucking mind, Prometheus just kept me thinking it was finally going to get good and then just kept failing and failing. | ||
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Warlock40
601 Posts
I was really disappointed, especially after stuff like this got me excited: The movie had none of the promise that this clip offered. | ||
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