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ilikeredheads
Canada1995 Posts
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
On June 13 2012 08:28 ilikeredheads wrote: If the engineers were running away from the black goo/ giant squid, why does the hologram show them running BACK into the giant head room full of black goo vases????? Everything you've said is just your own speculations and it only proves that nothing was ever explained. I thought they were running away from the room. Yeah, it is not explained, which is suppose to add to the mystery of the incident. I still does relate to speculation that there could have been an outbreak, which caused them to rush to the room. The other mystery is what they are running from since some of the Engineers was looking back while running. And one unlucky Engineer probably got attacked by something that they were running from and the door closed. Going back to Holloway, he pointed his flashlight to the Xenomorph mural and in front of it is what looks like a vase, but it had a green crystal, goo, or was just luminescent. Maybe that is what the Engineers were running to? It might be further explained in the extended scenes/Director's cut. | ||
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albis
United States652 Posts
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Soulstice
United States288 Posts
On June 13 2012 08:28 ilikeredheads wrote: If the engineers were running away from the black goo/ giant squid, why does the hologram show them running BACK into the giant head room full of black goo vases????? Everything you've said is just your own speculations and it only proves that nothing was ever explained. Perhaps they were going to destroy the goo pots? Seems rather arbitrary to me either way, but just a thought. I don't see where all the hate is coming from, i thought this movie was phenomenal. It was very reminiscent of the Alien in terms of suspense and action which is obviously a good thing. The story line was more than solid, in my opinion, the only thing that really doesn't make sense or goes unexplained is why everything on the planet was basically in stasis, as if frozen in time. Other than that i feel it all came together nicely while leaving just enough mystery for a sequel ending. Final thoughts: It's almost on par with Aliens, but not quite as good however i thought it was a close second in the series. | ||
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
On June 13 2012 08:40 Soulstice wrote: Perhaps they were going to destroy the goo pots? Seems rather arbitrary to me either way, but just a thought. I don't see where all the hate is coming from, i thought this movie was phenomenal. It was very reminiscent of the Alien in terms of suspense and action which is obviously a good thing. The story line was more than solid, in my opinion, the only thing that really doesn't make sense or goes unexplained is why everything on the planet was basically in stasis, as if frozen in time. Other than that i feel it all came together nicely while leaving just enough mystery for a sequel ending. Final thoughts: It's almost on par with Aliens, but not quite as good however i thought it was a close second in the series. Some of the criticism and complaints are justified, but others seems to be nitpicking or people just wanted a full blown prequel with LV-426, Xenomorphs, etc. I think LV-223 was "frozen in time" is because there was no living life form around except for the lone Engineer who is sleeping. It wasn't until they stepped inside the chamber that the vases/urns started to react since there were life forms around just like what happened to Kane in Alien. | ||
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Soulstice
United States288 Posts
On June 13 2012 08:52 zoLo wrote: Some of the criticism and complaints are justified, but others seems to be nitpicking or people just wanted a full blown prequel with LV-426, Xenomorphs, etc. I think LV-223 was "frozen in time" is because there was no living life form around except for the lone Engineer who is sleeping. It wasn't until they stepped inside the chamber that the vases/urns started to react since there were life forms around just like what happened to Kane in Alien. Right i get that, the thing that confuses me is why did the lone Engineer immediately try to launch the ship and carry out the plan to destroy earth? Why freeze yourself to begin with? If they were fighting what stopped them? Thats the only thing that sort of bugs me about the movie. | ||
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Mordiford
4448 Posts
On June 13 2012 00:01 coldSnaH wrote: Idk why everyone is saying Prometheus was bad, maybe I was only one who saw it in 3-d at a huge movie theatre? But it was freaking awesome! I saw it in IMAX 3D and while the visuals were great it could not save the movie for me. I really wanted it to end by the time the second half rolled around. | ||
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
On June 13 2012 09:19 Soulstice wrote: Right i get that, the thing that confuses me is why did the lone Engineer immediately try to launch the ship and carry out the plan to destroy earth? Why freeze yourself to begin with? If they were fighting what stopped them? Thats the only thing that sort of bugs me about the movie. Yeah, I agree. At this point, it definitely wants you to just use your imagination until a sequel comes out. Even with a sequel, they might not touch upon this. Maybe his sleeping pod went haywire, which caused him to oversleep? Since it seems like the Human-Engineer relationship broke down many years ago, I guess the Engineer immediately left for Earth because his mission was way over due. lol. I'm just poking fun at this. I mean, for a race full of highly intelligent beings that is able to create life and have a deep understanding of the cosmos, I find it funny how shit hit the fan. Maybe an Engineer had one too many drinks and accidentally got infected or let out one of their bioweapons. On June 13 2012 09:31 Mordiford wrote: I saw it in IMAX 3D and while the visuals were great it could not save the movie for me. I really wanted it to end by the time the second half rolled around. Or you could have just left the theater, lol. | ||
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Mordiford
4448 Posts
On June 13 2012 09:31 zoLo wrote: Yeah, I agree. At this point, it definitely wants you to just use your imagination until a sequel comes out. Even with a sequel, they might not touch upon this. Maybe his sleeping pod went haywire, which caused him to oversleep? Since it seems like the Human-Engineer relationship broke down many years ago, I guess the Engineer immediately left for Earth because his mission was way over due. lol. I'm just poking fun at this. I mean, for a race full of highly intelligent beings that is able to create life and have a deep understanding of the cosmos, I find it funny how shit hit the fan. Maybe an Engineer had one too many drinks and accidentally got infected or let out one of their bioweapons. Or you could have just left the theater, lol. I don't generally walk out of movies that I've paid for, I figure it's worth sticking around to see if the film can redeem itself in some way or offer some cool moment that kind of makes up for whatever crap you've been exposed to so far. I also went to see Prometheus with a friend, so it would be kind of weird to just get up and bale 70 minutes into the movie and sit outside for over an hour. After it was over though, both of us agreed it was pretty underwhelming. | ||
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ilikeredheads
Canada1995 Posts
http://io9.com/5917448/all-of-your-lingering-prometheus-questions-answered | ||
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
On June 13 2012 09:40 Mordiford wrote: I don't generally walk out of movies that I've paid for, I figure it's worth sticking around to see if the film can redeem itself in some way or offer some cool moment that kind of makes up for whatever crap you've been exposed to so far. I also went to see Prometheus with a friend, so it would be kind of weird to just get up and bale 70 minutes into the movie and sit outside for over an hour. After it was over though, both of us agreed it was pretty underwhelming. Yeah, I understand what you're saying. Sucks that you and your friend didn't like it. Hopefully the extended scenes/director's cut with additional 20 minutes will make it up for you guys. | ||
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Mr.Pyro
Denmark959 Posts
On June 10 2012 20:41 OutlaW- wrote: Your comparison is so bad that I'm not even going to start saying what's wrong with it It's basically like saying that lyrics in a song can't have symbolic meanings :3 | ||
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FallDownMarigold
United States3710 Posts
On June 13 2012 05:42 mememolly wrote: they had the exact same DNA as humans in case you didn't notice herp derp why should having the exact same genetic material necessarily mean they are human? the human species is not defined by DNA alone. for example, they could have the exact same genomic material, but this material could be expressed differently -- different genes at different times at different levels, etc, and you could end up with something dramatically different. + Show Spoiler + Two draft sequences of a “standard” or “typical” human genome were published in 2001, one produced under the auspices of the publicly-funded Human Genome Project (HGP), the other by Celera Genomics. The HGP’s official genome is a composite of genetic information from tens or hundreds of human individuals, while Celera Genomics’ official genome is a composite of genetic information from five individuals (but principally Craig Venter, Celera’s former president; Wade 2002). The sequences are nonetheless supposed to be 99.9% identical to individual human genomes, and that 0.1% variation, in concert with environmental variations, is supposed to explain the immense diversity among human beings (for a recent statement of this position, see Plomin et al. 2002). But, excepting identical twins, every human genome is different from every other. Further, while one’s maternal DNA may differ by 0.1% from one’s paternal DNA, and one’s own DNA may differ from that of any other individual by 0.1%, it is not the case that there is a certain part of an individual’s genome that is 99.9% identical with every other human’s genome. Although human beings might share 99.9% commonality at the genetic level, there is nothing as yet identifiable as absolutely common to all human beings. ..... Moreover, comparative genomic research has thus far been of no help in establishing the boundary of human species identity. Much of “our” DNA is shared with a huge variety of apparently distantly related creatures (e.g., yeast, worms, mice). Indeed, given the evidence that all living things share a common ancestor, there is little (if any) uniquely human DNA.8 More strikingly perhaps, though human beings are morphologically and behaviorally vastly different from chimpanzees, we differ genomically from chimps by no more than 1.2–1.6% (Allen 1997; Marks 2002; Enard et al. 2002; Olson and Varki 2003). Robert, J.S. & Baylis, F. (2003). Crossing Species Boundaries. American Journal of Bioethics 3(3):1 ^that basically says that our DNA being similar isn't what defines us by itself. so if some alien thing has very similar DNA to humans, there are other factors that might make them very unlike us. what if their brains develop such that they possess much more computing power, or are bestowed with entirely different senses altogether, as seems to be the case in the movie? | ||
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nitram
Canada5412 Posts
On June 13 2012 05:54 Flyingdutchman wrote: Not all things have to be explained imho. I liked the movie, there were certainly things that made me wonder about plotholes, but a lot of people need to watch the movie again because they haven't been paying attention the first time when you look at their rants. The movie leaves a lot of questions open, begging me to believe that the makers might have had a sequel in mind, or they had to cut the film back an hour halfway through.All in all it has been one of the most enjoyable movies I've seen at a theatre for a long time. It was refreshing to not have the urge to ask my money back for a change  There is enough variablility within humans, so DNA would look alike but there might be small details that change a lot in how you look. The engineers were pissed at the humans because a human touched the black goo which created all the monster on the ship. | ||
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HardCorey
United States709 Posts
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SipNanana
Australia8 Posts
So this pretty much sums everything up. http://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/uswn1/prometheus_everything_explained_and_analysed/ didnt realise had been linked ^.^ | ||
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FallDownMarigold
United States3710 Posts
On June 13 2012 11:47 SipNanana wrote: So this pretty much sums everything up. http://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/uswn1/prometheus_everything_explained_and_analysed/ it's been linked sooooooo many times already bud | ||
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renkin
France249 Posts
On June 13 2012 08:28 ilikeredheads wrote: + Show Spoiler + If the engineers were running away from the black goo/ giant squid, why does the hologram show them running BACK into the giant head room full of black goo vases????? Everything you've said is just your own speculations and it only proves that nothing was ever explained They didn't care about it because every engineer had its armor and its helmet. The goo inside the room can't react to them. We can assume that what they are running from is strong enough to ignore any protection. That's just speculation but the only time we see an Engineer changing its clothes is when the pilot is preparing the ship to fly. Maybe they were also getting ready to evacuate ? | ||
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
On June 13 2012 11:47 HardCorey wrote: One of the biggest plot points that was unexplained is why David infected Charlie. My guess is Weyland had him do it to test if the stuff could help with immortality or something along those lines. What you guys think? Yes, that is the most reasonable explanation at the moment. I don't think a scene like that doesn't need to be explained because the audience can get the gist of what is going on. Weyland giving the order really fits his character. It reminds me of how the Nostromo crew was labeled expendable by Weyland-Yutani in Alien.The only issue I wonder is whether or not David was altered to be Weyland's personal android. If you go to the viral website and go to the David 8 page, the mass produced model behaves a little differently than the David we know that was on board the Prometheus. | ||
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Croatia7457 Posts
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