On March 22 2012 05:12 pred470r wrote: The ship kinda reminds me of Serenity from Firefly. Other than that I like the trailer and I'm definitely going to see this movie, even tho it looks more like it's going to be action than horror.
If Ridley makes this an action movie, then alot of people will be surprised to put it mildly. Since he passionately hated Cameron's Aliens for it being an action movie throughout the years.
I'd argue that Starcraft borrowed more from Robert Heinlein's Starship Troopers more than any other IP. The Terran are quite like the Federation and the Zerg are quite like the bugs.
Looking forward to this movie. Hopefully he stays away from CGI too much. I really enjoy the older 70s and 80s Sci-Fi as they are much more realistic and don't blow the immersion like later Sci-Fi.
On March 22 2012 05:12 pred470r wrote: The ship kinda reminds me of Serenity from Firefly. Other than that I like the trailer and I'm definitely going to see this movie, even tho it looks more like it's going to be action than horror.
If Ridley makes this an action movie, then alot of people will be surprised to put it mildly. Since he passionately hated Cameron's Aliens for it being an action movie throughout the years.
Hate is an overstatement. Would he have done it that way? Absolutely not. But he did give his blessing. I.e basically saying you gotta do what you gotta do to get paid so do what you're good at. Cameron would've flopped if he continued what scott started.
On March 22 2012 02:53 BallinWitStalin wrote: It's interesting to see how the depiction of sci-fi environments changes with time. In the original alien move, everything was so grimy and industrial. Nothing was clean, everything looked like it was well used, and it looked basically like how I imagine the inside of a naval ship would look like.
Now, everything looks so sleek and spic-and-span clean. I'd describe it as almost "I-pad like".
To me, the grimy industrial setting suits sci-fi horror better. It was one thing I liked about Alien (and Aliens) so much, that the environment seemed so well designed and realistic. Sci-fi nowadays always looks too clean, fancy, and what we imagine would be "super-futuristic" (touch-screens, fancy lighting, and holograms everywhere, best example: old stars wars vs. new star wars). I wish people would tone this down in science fiction movies.
But the movie does look totally badass, and I am definitely anticipating this movie more than any other I can foresee in the near future.
Well indeed this "dirty" look was what made Alien(s) unique at the time. But if you look at the story both makes sense: In Alien, the spaceship/crew was industrial, compareable to today's trucks who simply have to do its tasks and nothing more. In Aliens, we had a military team exploring a colonial outpost. Neither of those equivalents of today would be "clean".
And in this new movie I think we will have a scientific expedition (I assume from the trailers). It makes a lot of sense for this to have a much cleaner or even sterile look.
This makes sense, and as long as it is not being sold under the name "Alien", I do not see to many problems. And if Prometheus will be Sci-fi horror, we will see.
Agreed. This was a fan question that popped up last weekend at WonderCon during the AMC Q & A with Ridley Scott and Damon Lindelof. Lindelof said that the reason why the 2 ships are different because they each have different purposes. The Nostromo is just a deep space mining ship that has been in service for years. The Prometheus is a deep space exploration ship that looks fancy and sleek since it needs the technology and what not. Besides, the expedition is funded by Weyland Corporation after all, so it really isn't that surprising that the Prometheus looks so fancy.
Oh, another screenshot was released a couple of hours ago.
On March 22 2012 02:53 BallinWitStalin wrote: It's interesting to see how the depiction of sci-fi environments changes with time. In the original alien move, everything was so grimy and industrial. Nothing was clean, everything looked like it was well used, and it looked basically like how I imagine the inside of a naval ship would look like.
Now, everything looks so sleek and spic-and-span clean. I'd describe it as almost "I-pad like".
To me, the grimy industrial setting suits sci-fi horror better. It was one thing I liked about Alien (and Aliens) so much, that the environment seemed so well designed and realistic. Sci-fi nowadays always looks too clean, fancy, and what we imagine would be "super-futuristic" (touch-screens, fancy lighting, and holograms everywhere, best example: old stars wars vs. new star wars). I wish people would tone this down in science fiction movies.
But the movie does look totally badass, and I am definitely anticipating this movie more than any other I can foresee in the near future.
Well indeed this "dirty" look was what made Alien(s) unique at the time. But if you look at the story both makes sense: In Alien, the spaceship/crew was industrial, compareable to today's trucks who simply have to do its tasks and nothing more. In Aliens, we had a military team exploring a colonial outpost. Neither of those equivalents of today would be "clean".
And in this new movie I think we will have a scientific expedition (I assume from the trailers). It makes a lot of sense for this to have a much cleaner or even sterile look.
This makes sense, and as long as it is not being sold under the name "Alien", I do not see to many problems. And if Prometheus will be Sci-fi horror, we will see.
Agreed. This was a fan question that popped up last weekend at WonderCon during the AMC Q & A with Ridley Scott and Damon Lindelof. Lindelof said that the reason why the 2 ships are different because they each have different purposes. The Nostromo is just a deep space mining ship that has been in service for years. The Prometheus is a deep space exploration ship that looks fancy and sleek since it needs the technology and what not. Besides, the expedition is funded by Weyland Corporation after all, so it really isn't that surprising that the Prometheus looks so fancy.
Oh, another screenshot was released a couple of hours ago.
To be honest I think the biggest difference comes from CGI contra reality. Reality just look more "real" shockingly enough. Imagine if George lucas had modern computer power when he made the first star wars movies, do you think it would have had the same authenticity (not sure if it's the right word) as they real ones had? When you give artist creative freedom then tend to go further than they should unless someone reals them in.
In a way cgi suffers the same uncanny valley effect. What I see looks real, but there's something unsettling because its not perfect. Or too perfect is sometimes tje reason it doesn't feel perfect. :p
I wonder if it's bad journalism or do they actually know more than we do?
It’s set in a future where two superpowers control Earth and fight each other for all the solar system's natural resources.
When one side sends a team of explorers to a distant planet to prepare it for colonisation, they discover a race of killer androids and the secret of man's origin.
It’s set in a future where two superpowers control Earth and fight each other for all the solar system's natural resources.
When one side sends a team of explorers to a distant planet to prepare it for colonisation, they discover a race of killer androids and the secret of man's origin.
Well ... it's The Sun. Probably the former and not the latter.
There's no unemployment data for Iceland, Iran, and several other countries, so maybe in the Prometheus universe they're cut off from the rest of the world, or destroyed somehow (volcanic eruption in Iceland, war in Iran?)
And on the David 8 page:
NEUTRAL David 8 can be programmed to enter a default neutral state, devoid of emotional engagement. In this state, David 8 reacts to his surroundings using only his logic actuators and does not access his facial mapping sensors or other advanced emotion-response pathways. His Motivation Sequences are bypassed in favor of a simplified rational response. This state can be useful for applications where traditional non-feeling cybernetic behavior is required.
Traditional non-feeling cybernetic behavior, like screwing everyone else over for Peter Weyland's secret real reason for sending Prometheus to LV-223...
I figure this is the best place to ask this, because I have ALWAYS wondered this since I saw the original movie, and could never find an answer:
The alien ship that the crew searches because of the signal, wtf is it? -Like, is it, "Alien," as in belonging to the antagonist aliens, showing that they are capable of creating, "ships," and sending out signals (possibly false ones)? This makes sense because of the general asthetics and some of the things seen in the ship. -Or is a completely separate alien that was, like the humans, attacked and infested by the antagonist Aliens, thus causing them to crash? This would explain the broken rib cage alien that is shown (it being a victim of the antagonist Aliens), and when Ripley says that the ship's signal is like a, "warning."
I've always wondered this, considering it is so huge and interesting. The evidence points to the former, but it seems like such a huge thing (an unexplored, unexplained alien race with unknown origins, and is the result of our infestation?) to just leave on such a small note.
On April 22 2012 05:00 TALegion wrote: I figure this is the best place to ask this, because I have ALWAYS wondered this since I saw the original movie, and could never find an answer:
The alien ship that the crew searches because of the signal, wtf is it? -Like, is it, "Alien," as in belonging to the antagonist aliens, showing that they are capable of creating, "ships," and sending out signals (possibly false ones)? This makes sense because of the general asthetics and some of the things seen in the ship. -Or is a completely separate alien that was, like the humans, attacked and infested by the antagonist Aliens, thus causing them to crash? This would explain the broken rib cage alien that is shown (it being a victim of the antagonist Aliens), and when Ripley says that the ship's signal is like a, "warning."
I've always wondered this, considering it is so huge and interesting. The evidence points to the former, but it seems like such a huge thing (an unexplored, unexplained alien race with unknown origins, and is the result of our infestation?) to just leave on such a small note.
If my memory serves, the space jockeys(which is who the ship belonged to, to answer that question) use the aliens to exterminate planets to take the resources(which is why he had a cargo hold full of eggs) so yes it is a separate alien.
However, one of the face huggers had latched onto the space jockey(the creature that has its ribs broken outwards inside the ship)and caused the ship to crash, so it set off a warning to ward people away which they were tricked into going into by the android or whatever that one guy was.
tldr; he was a space jockey, which created the aliens iirc, are something like the conquerors of the galaxy or something.
lot of information on them though if you search around i think.
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