EPT[Movie] Ender's Game - Page 5
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Calebcalebcaleb
United States22 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On November 23 2011 00:47 Remb wrote: Those are awfully poor assumptions. First that the US nothing but bellicose people. And second that Ender's Game is anti-war. Actually, Ender's Game is an extremely bellicose novel. In fact, it is suggested reading for the United States Marine Corps. Also the biggest theme of the book is to show no mercy and kill your enemies so they will never fight back, ever. Ender is a murderer, whether he likes it or not. Buggers aside, he willingly killed two people when they were unable to fight back. I suppose you could take it in that light, but I've always seen it as a framework for the pain Ender goes through later. In fact, they go out of their way to never tell him that Bonzo and that one bully died because they knew it would mess with him and he wouldn't be as effective of a leader. And they had to tell him all his battles were just games, the realization of the truth put him in Blue Screen of Death mode for more than a week. So yes, there is plenty about shutting down emotions on the battlefield, but that's not nearly what it's about, imo. In the end it's almost a story of a young man being forced into war and to endure PTSD afterward. | ||
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Golden Ghost
Netherlands1041 Posts
The book itself is really good and can be made with a relatively small buget I think, as most of it is mind games (and some action scenes Battle room). One set of the space station and one set of his home is almost all you need. The space battles are not a great addtion and can be done with some small scenes of spaceship manouvering in cgi. The only hard thing to film / perform is the battles in the Battle room. On November 22 2011 15:49 Requizen wrote: I don't see your problem with this to be honest. This is exactly how the internet works. One or two people form an opinion and post about it and others pick it up. The more people pick it up and write about it themselves the more influential the original poster becomes and more people will follow him and write about it etc.Some of his ideas of the internet are woefully out of date and laughable (two blogs changing the face of the entire country's view when even the most popular get maybe a million views a week). Btw everybody who enjoyed Ender's game but not it sequals should read the Shadow series. Especially Ender's shadow is really good. It shows the same story as Ender's game but from a different perspective. The other books in the Shadow series talk about what happened on Earth after the battle and Ender's departure into space. | ||
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CreeDo
United States82 Posts
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On November 23 2011 01:37 Golden Ghost wrote: I don't see your problem with this to be honest. This is exactly how the internet works. One or two people form an opinion and post about it and others pick it up. The more people pick it up and write about it themselves the more influential the original poster becomes and more people will follow him and write about it etc. Indeed so, but think about what happens in the books. Peter apparently gets on the net for the first time as a teenager, and within a few years becomes so influential with his radical ideas that they vote him Hegemon of the planet. With how many blogs (especially politically-minded) there are out there, how often does this happen? I'm going to go with... never. It was a brilliant foresight into how online ideas can spread on Card's part, but in today's world it feels a bit too farfetched. | ||
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lac29
United States1485 Posts
I mean seriously ... this is the company that brought you Twilight ... In an era where these movie companies want to push out series like Twilight or Harry Potter, etc ... this is going to butcher the story. I also think the sequels and related Ender's Games books are a huge step down from the original (Ender's Shadow being maybe the only exception). | ||
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TwoMagTrav
United States195 Posts
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ishboh
United States954 Posts
I am not much of a reader, but ender's game was my favorite book of all time. I know I won't like the movie as much as the book, but I still really want to see it made. As long as ender's character is portrayed well I think the movie will go well, but the fact that he ages so much over the course of the book, and the fact that a large portion of the scenes in the book are with naked children...i don't know how this will end up | ||
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ryerye
Canada53 Posts
I'm crossing my fingers that the movie will good because the books deserve it! | ||
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oooo27
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Sabu113
United States11075 Posts
On November 23 2011 02:05 Requizen wrote: Indeed so, but think about what happens in the books. Peter apparently gets on the net for the first time as a teenager, and within a few years becomes so influential with his radical ideas that they vote him Hegemon of the planet. With how many blogs (especially politically-minded) there are out there, how often does this happen? I'm going to go with... never. It was a brilliant foresight into how online ideas can spread on Card's part, but in today's world it feels a bit too farfetched. Well demosthenes was a very successful Beck. It's definitely a stretch but I think it has reasonable believeability. Especially if we allow for some differences between our world and this other world. Edit: What worries me is that I think OSC has diminished as an author in recent years. His works have begun to be dominated by religion and the quality of the story telling isn't quite as good as his classics (ender's game, Treason...) | ||
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TheEndersgame
United States4 Posts
Name is also very appropriate. ^^ | ||
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UndoneJin
United States438 Posts
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
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SecondSandwich
United States319 Posts
Summit sees Ender’s Game as its potential Harry Potter ...would certainly have to be toned down in order to have an all-ages, Harry Potter-like appeal Please do not try to make Enders Game into Harry Potter!  | ||
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FFGenerations
7088 Posts
On November 22 2011 13:01 duk3 wrote: City of Ember was definitely post- apocalyptic, and it was the story of a boy and girl who discovered a way out of their city, across an underground river and out of their city in a giant cave into the outside world, which was mostly destroyed by nukes hundreds of years ago. They then helped the rest of the city out as well. It doesn't exactly match up to what he said, but that might just be due to bad recollections, I looked around a bit and couldn't find anything that looked more similar. nah snot that tho it does sound like it. in my book the city was like a super-clean city with different levels leading up to the executive level iirc. it was a kids book and i guess like 150 pages not too long or short iirc. i read it around the time that i read "mind benders" and "the boy who reversed himself" and "under the mountain" probably (holy shit they made a movie of under the mountain) . scatterlings was another good one. freakin epic books they all were (as a kid), i love this surreal kinda stuff. i want to say it was called something like ......."......... ok shit i found it by googling LOL http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0765345676/qid=1114443438/sr=1-6/ref=sr_1_6/102-7373042-1324111?v=glance&s=books This Time of Darkness ![[image loading]](http://cb.pbsstatic.com/l/22/8722/9780140318722.jpg) holy shit ok so i like: Scatterlings This Time of Darkness The Boy Who Reversed Himself Under the Mountain Mindbenders The Tripods any others i will like (other than the obvious suggections in this thread)? my friends loved Ben Harren's Castle but i never read it | ||
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sickoota
Canada918 Posts
On November 22 2011 15:49 Requizen wrote: Some of his ideas of the internet are woefully out of date and laughable (two blogs changing the face of the entire country's view when even the most popular get maybe a million views a week). But would those be able to be changed and keep the story on track? Also, with today's American view of "Military! Fuck yeah!", this anti-war feeling of an almost dystopian military life might set people on edge. By "incredibly out of date" I assume you mean "years upon years before its time". You realize this book was written in the 70s when there was no internet right? No one other than William Gibson should be given as much credit as Card for predicting the internet before it happens. Its eery how close he came with a bunch of stuff. As to your point, its not even called the internet, and its set like 100 years in the future. Presumably the blogosphere will undergo some significant changes by that point. Additionally, who the fuck is Gavin Hood? Godamn this could be a great movie if you gave it a competent director, and an amazing movie if you gave it to a good director (the things Nolan would do...). That Wolverine movie was not worth a tenth of what I paid for it, and all I paid was a gig of bandwidth. | ||
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Buubble
United States191 Posts
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Coal
Sweden1535 Posts
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