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oPlaiD
Profile Joined March 2011
United States31 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-29 07:16:09
May 29 2011 07:15 GMT
#81
How can you rate the Kingkiller Chronicles as your favorite fantasy series when the second book of it came out like a month ago?

Not that the first one was bad... I still have yet to open the second, since I've been busy reading other stuff first.
Samuel Lingle - Senior Editor - http://www.esfiworld.com/
RighteousDan
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada99 Posts
May 29 2011 16:52 GMT
#82
Everyone who finds it hard to get involved in the series because of a lack of detail about the characters, should check out :


http://encyclopediamalazica.pbworks.com/w/page/18881599/FrontPage
"He's from Trinidad and Tobago. So he's Trinidadian and Toboggan."
Fireborn
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany14 Posts
May 29 2011 20:29 GMT
#83
Tanks for this thread OP, just ordered the first book
I was looking for a good fantasy series for quite some time but was a bit overwhelmed by the quantity the last time I was in the bookstore. But this sounds like the series I was searching for ^^
Doppelganger
Profile Joined May 2010
488 Posts
May 29 2011 20:31 GMT
#84
Strange.... 5,40€ for one book with 666 pages? On Amazon? Well I won't complain ^^
Bacondemon
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden149 Posts
May 29 2011 21:04 GMT
#85
Thanks for the tip! I read your intro and then instantly ordered the first four books, this seems to be just what I've been looking for!
dignity
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada908 Posts
May 29 2011 21:23 GMT
#86
Kingkiller trilogy is amazing so far. One of the better fantasy series for sure.
IronFenix
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada27 Posts
May 30 2011 01:01 GMT
#87
Not my Favorite series but has been pretty good once you get into it. Once he start understanding the world the Erikson is developing enjoying the books become a whole lot easier.

Right now I'm in the 4th book of the series, I have to say though the 3rd book "Memories of Ice" was pretty incredible
Doppelganger
Profile Joined May 2010
488 Posts
May 30 2011 01:01 GMT
#88
For people who are not sure if they want to invest:
http://rhwidget.randomhouse.co.uk/flash-widget/widget_lg.do?isbn=9780553819571&menu=0&mode=1&cf=4aa5a2&cb=77c8da
Randomhouse has put out the first 50 pages or so (not counting the introduction etc etc)
Twistacles
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1327 Posts
May 30 2011 01:14 GMT
#89
This is the best series i've ever read... I couldn't recommended this enough
"If you don't give a shit which gum you buy, get stride" - Tyler
CyberFrog
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark8 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-30 02:18:08
May 30 2011 02:07 GMT
#90
I've read all the 10 books plus the two or three books from Ian Cameron Esslemont wich is from the same universe. My favorite char is prolly Quick Ben. This is by far the best fantasy series ive ever read and i also read all the writtin books of game of thrones (he is still not finished with the series yet, prolly waiting until the tv series is done)
Tristy
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway172 Posts
May 30 2011 08:01 GMT
#91
For those who wondered about the picture: + Show Spoiler +
It is Itkovian in Memories of Ice. (Battle against the tenescowry).


My favorite book is either Memories of Ice, or The Crippled God, not entirely sure atm.

There is no way to pick a favorite character in amongst this series as there are just so so many of them. Tho to pick a few I would say, Trull, Hellian, Shurq, Fiddler, Karsa, and Tehol.

This series is hard to read if you take it with breaks, I read the entire series and all the books by Ian C. Esslemont (also a part of the malaz universe). In pretty much 7-8months, and that crops up to around 15-16 thousand pages, so it is a bit of a read.

And for a tip, if you do like the dark and gritty style, you will get even darker from the Series "The Black Company" by Glen Cook.

"Choose life!"
Tristy
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway172 Posts
May 30 2011 08:08 GMT
#92
On May 30 2011 06:23 dignity wrote:
Kingkiller trilogy is amazing so far. One of the better fantasy series for sure.


Kingkiller is an enjoyable read, but very simple in comparison with series like soiaf and malaz, they are not really comparable as Kingkiller follows the old standard of one powerful hero that faces good and bad characters.

Malaz does not have anything like that, it is much much darker, and much much grander (same goes for soiaf)

Kingkiller is more of a Harry Potter set in a fantasy world and is generally darker (and not a childrens book), but the similarities are uncanny.


(soiaf = Song of Ice and Fire = Game of Thrones)
"Choose life!"
Tristy
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway172 Posts
May 30 2011 08:10 GMT
#93
On May 28 2011 13:20 Nidoa wrote:
Talking about Fiddler's horse biting a face off (in the second book), any1 think that same guy is horse-face, or whatever his name, in the sixth book? Roaming that city with the plague goddess and that hates horses because one bit his face off?


Yes I noticed that as well, and im fairly sure it is the same, The entire series is full of small details like that.
"Choose life!"
arglactable
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States16 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-30 15:57:05
May 30 2011 15:56 GMT
#94
Really, anyone who complains about this being confusing and never explaining anything just isn't capable of following the plot. No offense, but I'm about half way through gardens of the moon and I would say I have a pretty clear grasp of the characters and the motivations, as well as a clear enough understanding of the way that the magic and gods function in this world to get what's going on. It's not a detriment to have absolutely zero paragraphs/pages of blatant exposition. There was enough going on in the first 150 pages or so that I was motivated to continue and on the way picked up most of the information I needed to understand. As for the complaints about the cards... Tarot cards, anyone? That is entirely believable in a fantasy setting.

The same goes for the world. Yes, Erikson doesn't give you a clear map of the world and everyone/everything in it (well, he does actually give you a literal map, but you get what I mean), but he imparts a sense of massive scale and a sense of mystery that you just don't get with, say, Martin's work. One that note, I love both authors, but they have a completely different methods for telling a story.
StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
May 30 2011 16:04 GMT
#95
I can't stand Erikson. It's strange how masochistic some readers can be, where they'll literally pay for a book that can't stand on its own and then be happy that it took them reading three more books after it to finally "appreciate" the first one. That's horrible story-telling. There's a reason Erikson will never become mainstream literature, and it's not because he's high brow. It's because the average person isn't stupid enough to waste that much time to get their entertainment.
Rembot
Profile Joined March 2011
United States137 Posts
May 30 2011 16:18 GMT
#96
I've started reading Gardens of the Moon, and I'm not impressed.

If I had found this series when I was 15, I probably would have eaten it up in record time, but now the entire style and tone strike me as immature.

Reading this thread doesn't do much to encourage the rest of the series. Most of what I'm seeing is "Lots of magic, awweeesome!!", "Lots of gods and demigods, coool!", "Look at all the stuff happening, wow!".

I'm probably still going to ride it out, and I earnestly hope I end up liking it. There's 10 books in the series, and at the rate I take down books I need to keep fuel on the fire. Is there cause for hope, or is it all a context-less excretion of fantasy rope?
"Ring ring ring ring ring ring ring..... banana phone!"
Twistacles
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1327 Posts
May 30 2011 16:47 GMT
#97
On May 31 2011 01:18 Rembot wrote:
I've started reading Gardens of the Moon, and I'm not impressed.

If I had found this series when I was 15, I probably would have eaten it up in record time, but now the entire style and tone strike me as immature.

Reading this thread doesn't do much to encourage the rest of the series. Most of what I'm seeing is "Lots of magic, awweeesome!!", "Lots of gods and demigods, coool!", "Look at all the stuff happening, wow!".

I'm probably still going to ride it out, and I earnestly hope I end up liking it. There's 10 books in the series, and at the rate I take down books I need to keep fuel on the fire. Is there cause for hope, or is it all a context-less excretion of fantasy rope?


The first one was written 10 years before the others, so the style is a little different. They get better.
At LEAST read two and three, some of the best novels ever written.
"If you don't give a shit which gum you buy, get stride" - Tyler
Chaoz
Profile Joined March 2010
United States507 Posts
May 30 2011 16:54 GMT
#98
On May 30 2011 17:08 Tristy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2011 06:23 dignity wrote:
Kingkiller trilogy is amazing so far. One of the better fantasy series for sure.


Kingkiller is an enjoyable read, but very simple in comparison with series like soiaf and malaz, they are not really comparable as Kingkiller follows the old standard of one powerful hero that faces good and bad characters.

Malaz does not have anything like that, it is much much darker, and much much grander (same goes for soiaf)

Kingkiller is more of a Harry Potter set in a fantasy world and is generally darker (and not a childrens book), but the similarities are uncanny.


(soiaf = Song of Ice and Fire = Game of Thrones)


You should read some Kingkiller discussion threads. The series has amazing depth if you notice the subtle things.
Doppelganger
Profile Joined May 2010
488 Posts
May 30 2011 17:13 GMT
#99
On May 31 2011 01:04 StorkHwaiting wrote:
I can't stand Erikson. It's strange how masochistic some readers can be, where they'll literally pay for a book that can't stand on its own and then be happy that it took them reading three more books after it to finally "appreciate" the first one. That's horrible story-telling. There's a reason Erikson will never become mainstream literature, and it's not because he's high brow. It's because the average person isn't stupid enough to waste that much time to get their entertainment.


Sill better than another Version of "The valiant young hero vanquishes the vicious villain". If I read one of those stories again I think I'm gonna die of boredom.
caruso
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany733 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-30 17:37:32
May 30 2011 17:30 GMT
#100
I haven't read a fantasy novel since 2003 (Deathly Hallows), but when I was younger, I ate that shit up.

Does anyone have nice recommendations for me?

I liked Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, and a trillion billion German fantasies but other than that, I tend to read more classic stuff (especially German, once again).

Thanks for any tips!

P. s.: I tend to prefer audio books right now, since I can listen to them while working out.

€: I'd be thankful for any pms as well, since I'm likely to forget about this thread before long.
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