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On December 23 2014 18:42 yamato77 wrote: This series is quickly becoming my favorite of all time. It only gets better friend. Like I don't know how far you are but IT GETS SOOOOOO MUCH BETTER!!
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Haven't had much time recently and didn't like book 5 ( Midnight Tides ) that much. But now over half way in and oh boy I LOVE IT ! Bugg and Tehol, I am so happy when I get to read about them. It is like Game of Thrones and reading about Tyrion, just such great characters.
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On December 24 2014 06:35 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2014 18:42 yamato77 wrote: This series is quickly becoming my favorite of all time. It only gets better friend. Like I don't know how far you are but IT GETS SOOOOOO MUCH BETTER!! Just finished Reaper's Gale. Was sooooooo good. So many awesome moments. But also so damned sad.
+ Show Spoiler +I hope someone skewers the Errant.  Trull didn't deserve to die.
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On December 25 2014 09:31 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2014 06:35 VisceraEyes wrote:On December 23 2014 18:42 yamato77 wrote: This series is quickly becoming my favorite of all time. It only gets better friend. Like I don't know how far you are but IT GETS SOOOOOO MUCH BETTER!! Just finished Reaper's Gale. Was sooooooo good. So many awesome moments. But also so damned sad. + Show Spoiler +I hope someone skewers the Errant.  Trull didn't deserve to die. I've just started The Bonehunters, but after reading Midnight Tides I've come to the conclusion that Erickson has to kill off a likeable character every book just to make you salty lol
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It does seem like a pattern. Makes me worried for these last two before The Crippled God. If he kills off certain characters I will be majorly upset.
But it IS the "Book of the Fallen" after all, so I should have known what I was getting myself into.
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Killing characters properly is a mark of great writing. He has so many great characters that even if he kills one, there's so many great ones left. So glad people are loving these books. They are so fucking good.
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On December 25 2014 11:37 yamato77 wrote: It does seem like a pattern. Makes me worried for these last two before The Crippled God. If he kills off certain characters I will be majorly upset.
But it IS the "Book of the Fallen" after all, so I should have known what I was getting myself into. Exactly. Otherwise it would be called The Malazan Book of the Guys Who Turned Out To Be Absolutely Fine. Noone would read it.
Prepare yourself.
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Just finished Night of Knives. It's very different from Erikson's work. This is more of an adventure novel in comparison. Still I really enjoyed getting some more backstory on some important characters such as the ever mysterious Dassem Ultor. Good read definetely recommended.
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I was completely lost for most of Gardens of the Moon and Deadhouse Gates was still confusing but a bit into Memories of Ice things started to make sense and the series became bloody awesome, emphasis on the bloody.
I've especially enjoyed the parts with Lady Envy's group, only 50% into Memories of Ice so far though but if the first two books taught me anything it's that these somehow get even better towards the end.
If Erikson maintains similar level after Memories of Ice I'm in for a real treat.
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On February 26 2015 09:28 Vaelone wrote: I was completely lost for most of Gardens of the Moon and Deadhouse Gates was still confusing but a bit into Memories of Ice things started to make sense and the series became bloody awesome, emphasis on the bloody.
I've especially enjoyed the parts with Lady Envy's group, only 50% into Memories of Ice so far though but if the first two books taught me anything it's that these somehow get even better towards the end.
If Erikson maintains similar level after Memories of Ice I'm in for a real treat.
You are indeed Won't spoil anything but this series is my favorite by far.
Am currently in Toll the Hounds, finally got round to buying them in English. Was waiting for years if and wen they would translate them in Dutch but the publisher decided not to anymore, so from book 4 on in English it is. Little harder for me since his writing style/ words can be somewhat difficult but I can't wait for decades to finish this series !
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On February 26 2015 09:28 Vaelone wrote: I was completely lost for most of Gardens of the Moon and Deadhouse Gates was still confusing but a bit into Memories of Ice things started to make sense and the series became bloody awesome, emphasis on the bloody.
I've especially enjoyed the parts with Lady Envy's group, only 50% into Memories of Ice so far though but if the first two books taught me anything it's that these somehow get even better towards the end.
If Erikson maintains similar level after Memories of Ice I'm in for a real treat. I had the same as you. At book 3 I somewhat started getting it and I was sold. Be prepared though, the plot will keep thickening for like 3 or 4 more books until you start getting some answers. Worth every second though. ATM I'm reading Esselmont's books and it fills in so much of the background stories that are kept vague in Erikson's books that it's a good read regardless of the fact that Erikson is considered the superior writer. The world and story these two created is just gigantic...
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Pretty sure I started reading this series because of this thread. I really liked Gardens of the Moon, Steven paints such an epic weight to the imagery of events and magic power. Although, Deadhouse Gates was hard to read through for me because of the lack of upsides. I do love how everyone is so powerful but still vulnerable, seems a defining theme of the series.
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I'm rereading it at the moment. Read the first two half a year ago, picked up Memories of Ice again, and it's still awesome. It is by far my favorite fantasy series ever. I actually gave up on A song of ice and fire after 2 books as I found most of the plotlines and characters pretty damn boring. My favorite thing about Erikson's world has always been the massive scale. I also enjoy the scheming power hungry pantheon of asshole gods and mortals. I also think that the books showcase some very effective comedic relief from the grim imagery. Kruppe and Bugg/Tehol provide som lightheartedness that doesn't feel forced.
Reading though this thread i see a lot of people who didn't understand GoTM, where as I think most of the plot and motivations in the book to be at least straightforward enough to easily follow the story. My biggest confusion was what was the motivation of Oponn and Shadowthrone for their actions.
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about 2 years ago i needed something new to read, so i got the first 3 books of malazan and the dresden files. since i couldnt decide with which to start i tried the first few chapters of both and well, i obviously went for jim butcher (MUCH easier) after reading all of that (the dresden files are pretty good btw), a friend recommended the kingkiller chronicles (meh), then i read the world of midkemia (meh), then i read codex alera (which is btw pretty fucking awesome)
so long story short, a week ago i decided to get malazan in german (which would probably help to make things easier) and started again. like the last time, i didnt unterstand much in the first half of gardens of the moon because he likes to throw stuff at you and explain it 400 pages later
im currenty halfway through book 2 and its pretty fucking awesome ! and according to a friend, it even gets much better
i wouldnt have started it or even bought it if it wasnt for this thread, so i guess thanks guys !
p.s.: anomander rake is the man ! (or the tiste andii)
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Anomander is pretty much jesus except 2357987x cooler
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Especially in Gardens of the Moon I felt Anomander Rake was too awesome. Here was this huge dude with a bigass sword that contains it's own hell, enough magic power to single handedly wipe out armies, a flying fortress, an army of gigantic magic ravens, a dragon, and an army of super powerful assassin mages. Oh yeah he can also transform into a dragon and is pretty much unbeatable in one on one sword combat.
Its like they put every awesome idea they had into one character.
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And made it work to boot by topping it all off with actual personality, rich mysterious history and character devellopment.
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Some opinions on Tiste Andii, Malazans and the ending. Heavy spoilers inside. + Show Spoiler + Well Rake is easily one of my favorite book character. I really loved the series but the quality quickly deteriorates around book 6-7. Still has some nice moments but overall quality is meh. I got soo tired of Malazans beating everyone around i started to cheer for everyone who opposed Malazans. It was so ridiculous when they beat ascandant after ascendant and god after god. Also Tiste Andi in early books are much better than in late books, afterall they turn out to be just darkskinned silverhaired humans. The only thing that could save this series was tottal anihilation of Tavore/Paran (and their forces) without achiving their goals, that would be a perfect ending.
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done with book 2 and i already love the series but it seems im one of the few who liked the first book better ! from what i can tell so far: you start the new book and you are on another continent, in another time, you miss the characters from the last book (whiskeyjack, quick ben, kruppe, anomander rake) but the new characters grow to you REALLY fast, so after some pages you dont really care  now im starting book 3 and im back with dujek and whiskeyjack and i already miss sha'ik and the characters from book 2 (and i wanna know how that story continues !)
i really hated the ending of the 2nd book + Show Spoiler + (all those soldiers getting cruzified, duiker and coltaine dying, man that was though to read....) icarium seems like some hell of a guy, i loved every single page about his relationship with mappo ! and i wanted to read more about gryllen, that guy scares the shit out of 5 hounds of shadow, his death was rather ... underwhelming
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So I started this series in the 8th of September 2014, and just finally finished the 10th book yesterday.
Really enjoyed every book, and after reading some of it every night for the last 400+ days, I am going to seriously miss it.
I have some questions though, so putting them in spoiler tags.
+ Show Spoiler +So did they kill The Crippled God, or just release him from his mortal body? I feel it's much more the latter, as they could have easily killed him while he was chained and then just ran away without losing everybody defending him. And it was either Heboric, Krul or Mael that said the human body wouldn't be suitable for the travel. If that was the case, why didn't they just explain it to Koryk, rather than saying "It's better this way"?
Ok next, what was Draconus's purpose after he got released? He spent all that time walking with Ublala like they were headed to some destiny. Then he just has to disappear without saying why. All Ublala does is smash Calm over the face with his mace while she was distracted. Draconus could not have been leading him all the way there on the hope that he gets lucky and Sister Calm is just not paying attention to a giant ass Toblakai walking across a desert with no cover.
Did Torrent die? Seemed like he was sliding to the edge before it cut out. Kind of imagined someone would step in and save him.
Did anyone ever get round to explaining how Redmask was a Letheri? The original Redmask wasn't. How did a Letheri get so good at awl style fighting? And how did someone who seemed so smart make so many obvious errors with his army?
Where did Oseric go during all of this? He seemed a kind of strange character, and made out to be pretty powerful. Just seems really strange he didn't do much.
What happened to the Empress? People made out like she had been killed and Malick Rel had taken over. Did we get any more info on that?
Think that is all for now
EDIT: Thought of one more! Quick Ben. People kept saying how he was going to have to "reveal himself". Then after his fight with the Nah Ruk, he got somehow teleported to Mother Dark? With some powerful Sceptre thing? What was he supposed to reveal? What was he hiding?.
So, last question. I see there are other books in the same universe by another guy. Any worth reading? Feels weird not having any more Malazan stuff to read.
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