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Vaelone
Finland4400 Posts
"Esslemont and Erikson collaborated on the storyline for the entire sixteen-book project and Esslemont's novels are considered as canonical and integral to the series as Erikson's own." So if you love Malazan they are probably worth it and I for one am at least planning to read all 16 books, it's just pretty time consuming so it's a slow process for me. Absolutely loving these though. | ||
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B.I.G.
3251 Posts
I already answered a few of your questions I think but regarding the other ones: as far as I remember they wanted Quick Ben to reveal himself as an extremely powerful High Mage rather than just some company mage. In the end there were basically three successful groups that were trying to influence events (Anomander and Hood, Shadowthrone & co, and Quick Ben and the gang) so be was actually one of the story's main puppet masters. Torrent was the one that killed Olar Ethil right? I think he just slipped off and died. Redmask remains a mistery. One of the many chesspieces in events. The fate of the crippled god leaves room for interpretation. One wonders how it fits into Shadowthrone and Cotillion's schemes. They aren't evil so it's not necissarily beyond them to simply help but it has been clearly stated they were looking to become the rulers of a third throne... And lastly Draconus. Described as the biggest powerhouse of the series. He mainly got released to kill the Elder gods. Yet his motivations are obviously far more complex. His relation with figures like Anomander, Hood, Mother Dark, and Caladan Brood go back hundreds of thousands of years so there is obviously more there. So much even that Erikson is writing the Kharnakas Trilogy now (I'm somewhere in tbe first book). Basically it's the story of aformentioned characters as they share origins. Much more stuff out there to read to fill in some gaps. It's amazing that even after having put the series down for months I am still pondering it's complexity sometimes... | ||
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Westy
England808 Posts
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B.I.G.
3251 Posts
On November 28 2015 11:11 Westy wrote: Oh I forgot to ask. Do any of the books by ICE feature Karsa? One of the best characters in the entire series got a pretty dull ending I think. AFAIK no, but after Erikson is finished with the Kharnakas trilogy there is a trilogy just for Karsa planned. Epic shit. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Having finished the books, I'm a little disappointed that Coltaine never resurfaced. Like...it was cool that Whiskeyjack and the other Bridgeburners got another day in the sun, but Coltaine had become almost the Malazan equivalent of a God with worshipers and everything. I kinda assumed he'd resurface during the "final battle" or whatever to lend his military genius. Was a little sad he didn't. | ||
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B.I.G.
3251 Posts
On November 29 2015 01:22 VisceraEyes wrote: Don't open if you haven't read. + Show Spoiler + Having finished the books, I'm a little disappointed that Coltaine never resurfaced. Like...it was cool that Whiskeyjack and the other Bridgeburners got another day in the sun, but Coltaine had become almost the Malazan equivalent of a God with worshipers and everything. I kinda assumed he'd resurface during the "final battle" or whatever to lend his military genius. Was a little sad he didn't. + Show Spoiler + Return of the Crimson Guard | ||
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B.I.G.
3251 Posts
I apparenty have a way of misreading names in the Malazan universe. I always thought it was Kharnakas but apparently its Kharkanas. I also used to think it was Kellenvad, instead its Kellanved. Mind=blown. | ||
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Nebula
England780 Posts
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sperY
Serbia444 Posts
At first I liked it very much but as the time went on I didn't feel like this book has a big story line like the previous one's. Boy I was wrong. Like at the 80% of the book the shit gets real and you start to understand that this book is mean to pivot the story line in preparation for next books. Damn that ending was good. One of the best so far! Now for some spoilers + Show Spoiler + A lot of awesome stuff happened. Eres'al getting involved. Hints of Icariums power. Full display of shadowdance with Apsalar (even though it happened behind the screen). And Kalamn. Damn those fights vs Claw. I think we finally saw why he is often displayed as one of dangerous assassins. And Fiddlers song. Oh Kalam  Brigeburners break my heart | ||
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RvB
Netherlands6263 Posts
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Vaelone
Finland4400 Posts
Memories of Ice and House of Chains still my personal favourites, HoC mostly due to Karsa. | ||
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sperY
Serbia444 Posts
Think that's why I liked Memories of Ice and Midnight Tides the best I think. I didn't like House of Chains that much. Imo his character develops nice later on. But dear god I like Shadowthrone and Cotillion in The Bonehunters. Especially Cotillion! | ||
Flicky
England2669 Posts
Quick and simple question - how worth it are the non-main series books? I fear that the Tiste books are going to lose a lot of the character I like as the Tiste have their own personalities and outlooks and most of the characters I really enjoy reading are human. | ||
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
I'm reading it at a slow pace though rather than devouring it like all other Malazan books because the next one isn't out yet. =[ | ||
Nyovne
Netherlands19137 Posts
On August 16 2016 22:39 SK.Testie wrote: I'll tell you how Forge of Darkness is once I finish it. I'm reading it at a slow pace though rather than devouring it like all other Malazan books because the next one isn't out yet. =[ Fall of Light is out and I finished it a couple of weeks back. The last one dealing with Shadow is set to be released end of next year. So you can read Forge and have another 800+ pages to read still ahead of you  .Dancer's is in the mail so gonna read that this week. Ordered it along with another 13 books so I'm set for the next 2 months. | ||
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
On August 16 2016 22:51 Nyovne wrote: Fall of Light is out and I finished it a couple of weeks back. The last one dealing with Shadow is set to be released end of next year. So you can read Forge and have another 800+ pages to read still ahead of you .Dancer's is in the mail so gonna read that this week. Ordered it along with another 13 books so I'm set for the next 2 months. Thank you. =] | ||
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RvB
Netherlands6263 Posts
On August 16 2016 22:51 Nyovne wrote: Fall of Light is out and I finished it a couple of weeks back. The last one dealing with Shadow is set to be released end of next year. So you can read Forge and have another 800+ pages to read still ahead of you .Dancer's is in the mail so gonna read that this week. Ordered it along with another 13 books so I'm set for the next 2 months. From Esslemont return of the crimson guard anf especially dancer's lament were good. Forge of darkness is good as well. | ||
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B.I.G.
3251 Posts
Forge of Darkness gives you a shitton of background on many of the ancient characters you encounter in the books. It also gives you insight in how the world came to be. To me it didn't diminish the characters at all. | ||
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Nyovne
Netherlands19137 Posts
On another note, Fall of Light is an absolutely brilliant piece of work by Erikson. How he touches upon so many modern day social issues and historical events in a critical and interesting manner with flawlessly weaving them into his fantasy epic is inspiring. So many passages really made me think and inspired new trains of thought. It's so much more then a fantasy epic, for me it was also quite a few new perspectives on modern day issues. | ||
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Flicky
England2669 Posts
On August 22 2016 01:09 Nyovne wrote: Finished Dancer's lament two days ago and I must say I'm positively surprised. I hated Orb Scepter Throne (even though I loved the concepts in the book, just detested the execution), Blood and Bone missed all the marks for me and Assail was the biggest disappointment I've had reading a book in over a decade. This was really disappointing for me because I really liked Night of Knives and Return of the Crimson Guard with Stonewielder hanging somewhere in the middle. Going back in after those books was a tough call for me but ah well, more Malazan right? In the end more than worth it. Really enjoyed it and I hope ICE has found his style and stride with this book and that we can expect more of this quality work in the future. It turned me around from hating his last books to looking forward to the next 2 installments in the path to ascendancy trillogy. On another note, Fall of Light is an absolutely brilliant piece of work by Erikson. How he touches upon so many modern day social issues and historical events in a critical and interesting manner with flawlessly weaving them into his fantasy epic is inspiring. So many passages really made me think and inspired new trains of thought. It's so much more then a fantasy epic, for me it was also quite a few new perspectives on modern day issues. You think it would be worth to just skip over the ICE Novels until I've nothing else to read and go straight onto Kharkanas and Path to Ascendancy books then? | ||
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