A lot of the characters of Dancer's lament and return of the crimson guard overlap and in many ways it's the continuation of the story. So switching them around might make for a better read.

parkufarku

882 Posts

October 16 2016 23:54 GMT

#603

I'm trying to find out if I already read this or not. Everything sounds so familiar. Did the characters (Like Paran, Lorn, Laseen) / gods show up in Book of the New Sun or just these series?? Cause I remember reading all of those and these characters seem so familiar

B.I.G.

3251 Posts

November 29 2017 11:12 GMT

#604

March 2014 is when my Malazan adventure started and now, 3 years and 8 months later I'm still only two thirds of the way there (if including the new releases). What an epic journey it has been. No.1 fantasy series without a doubt. As a celebration I started the Gardens of Moon audiobook. Like people said you're in so over your head the first time that the second read through is significantly easier and more enjoyable. That being said, anyone reading the new releases in kharnakas trilogy and path to ascendancy?

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

November 30 2017 22:31 GMT

#605

I would give everything I have to a Netflix/HBO/Showtime to faithfully transfer this to a show.

Motherfucking maybe I'll start writing the screenplay.

Archeon

3253 Posts

December 01 2017 02:16 GMT

#606

Making a show would be incredibly hard. The more fantasy elements a story has the more special effects it needs and the harder it is to keep it gritty and realistic. For that reason GoT makes a fairly good series and LotR was lauded as impossible to make into a movie until Jackson did it (with a lot of minimization in the character and magic department).

Erickson's world is permeated with magic and there are loads of non-human characters, including several gods and demons who often happen to influence the story and have long dialogues.

Also Malazan is a depressing series which requires loads of patience, I doubt it'd survive the first month in TV. And good luck talking the editorial staff into broadcasting the episodes showing the army of the Pannion seer.

B.I.G.

3251 Posts

December 01 2017 04:39 GMT

#607

Lollll i forgot about the corpse raping ladies. No way they could make that suitable for TV.

RvB

Netherlands6211 Posts

December 01 2017 09:38 GMT

#608

On November 29 2017 20:12 B.I.G. wrote:
March 2014 is when my Malazan adventure started and now, 3 years and 8 months later I'm still only two thirds of the way there (if including the new releases). What an epic journey it has been. No.1 fantasy series without a doubt. As a celebration I started the Gardens of Moon audiobook. Like people said you're in so over your head the first time that the second read through is significantly easier and more enjoyable. That being said, anyone reading the new releases in kharnakas trilogy and path to ascendancy?

I'm reading both. Dancer's lament is the best book ICE has written in the malazan universe and provides a lot of backstory on Dancer and Kellanved. It's definitely recommended.

The Kharkanas trilogy is great for the story about the tiste and a lot of the older characters in the malazan series. It's a bitch to read through though. Especially fall of light is a huge neverending tome.

Making malazan into a series is near impossible. Just imagine introducing all the 100s of characters while there's not really a single protagonist.

B.I.G.

3251 Posts

December 01 2017 15:20 GMT

#609

Yeah I agree dancer's lament was great. Much more approachable. Haven't read fall of light yet but I remember forge of darkness being a bit of a chore. Still worth it for the background though.

Geo.Rion

7377 Posts

April 06 2018 08:21 GMT

#610

On December 01 2017 18:38 RvB wrote:

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Started reading ICE books, (took a brake after finishing the main series), im currently reading ROTCG which is shaping up to be one of the strongest if not the nr.1 book of the entire universe. But now I picked up Dancer's lament, and that s gonna be my next book instead of Stonewielder. The Malazan Old Guard is just so intriguing, and the feedbak about D'L is pretty good so far, so im looking forward to it.

I really dont think they should ever try to make a TV series or films out of the Malazan books. They would 100% ruin it, no matter who picks it up, even HBO would botch it, im sure.
They would try to structure it somehow to be more easy to follow, and would focus on details which are not really important.
it would most likely be centered heavily around the Paran family and their love-interests, Tavore would be brought more to the front, there would be lesbian sex-scenes every 2nd episode etc. Tattersail would probably be kept around way longer.

The series is deliberately written in a way that is contrary to the traditional narrative styles, one could even say it s post-modern. Even Paran doesnt really function as a traditional protagonist, it s more like a traditional protagonist type thrown into a setting that doesnt allow for that kind of a character arc.

The only form of adaptation I would be happy about is an animated series, which shows all the events without much restructuring.

Komodo

Mexico89 Posts

April 06 2018 17:00 GMT

#611

I just finished reading The Gardens of the Moon and think it was pretty good. Albeit it is a little bit hard to follow I love books (hence authors)that makes me overthink and construct the world as I want, for example, the warrens. Most complains I have heard is that Erickson does not explain much and just throws you right in the middle of the events and I just loved that.

I just bought the following 5 books in the series as I pretty much enjoyed the first one and everybody says the next ones are better in overall terms.

goody153

44125 Posts

April 07 2018 05:50 GMT

#612

You're gonna love DeadHouse Gates. I thought it was a huge improvement to GotM (it also has one of the best story arcs i've ever read in fantasy aka Chain of Dogs )

Don't think there will ever be a medium that can make Malazan look decent tbh. There's too much censorship and content needed to be cut to pass todays shows(children being brutalized alot, the concept of tenescowri etc) and without them i don't think Malazan will ever be the same. Not to mention the god/ascendant showcases conversations. But yeah animated is probably the closest it could make it work