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Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
August 29 2014 14:35 GMT
#521
Wait Steven Erikson wrote a sci-fi now which goes about Terran??? And I am posting this on Team Liquid in this thread?
http://www.amazon.com/Willful-Child-Steven-Erikson/dp/0765374897/ref=la_B000APIXTU_1_12?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1409322828&sr=1-12
Haha that's weird!

It's maybe not 100% OT, but anyway, did someone read this already?
CaM27
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium392 Posts
August 29 2014 19:04 GMT
#522
I apologize in advance! This is a bit of rant!

I read the 6 first books and now since 7/8 months i haven't read the followup. It is super frustrating as i invested a lot of time and patience in this books. Reading summaries online when i didn't understands the chapters and or characters, english is not my native language!

And now i just don't find the motivation anymore to restart the series with book 7 and or book 1 as i realize i don't remember all that much from the plot, characters (so many of them), sigh!
Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
August 30 2014 09:51 GMT
#523
Like with any repetition, a lot will come back if you start over, and it'll be an easier read...
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
September 05 2014 08:42 GMT
#524
Just finished the Bone Hunters. Six down four to go. Sad to see some of the characters die (although seeing as how this is the malazan universe there is a pretty decent chance of them coming back in some way). Hoping for more Anomander Rake and Kruppe stuff since I kind of enjoy the whole Genabackis story more.

Time to start Reaper's Gale.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-11 13:58:40
September 11 2014 13:57 GMT
#525
On August 30 2014 04:04 CaM27 wrote:
I apologize in advance! This is a bit of rant!

I read the 6 first books and now since 7/8 months i haven't read the followup. It is super frustrating as i invested a lot of time and patience in this books. Reading summaries online when i didn't understands the chapters and or characters, english is not my native language!

And now i just don't find the motivation anymore to restart the series with book 7 and or book 1 as i realize i don't remember all that much from the plot, characters (so many of them), sigh!

I encourage you to just pick up where you left off, for three main reasons.

1. Lots of things u think u forgot gonna come back
2. U do not require to know everything and everyone, in fact the story kinda assumes you forgot half the stuff, cuz explains and introduces important things several times (or leaves things ambivelent, so you have info about it but u re not really sure either way), and it progresses forward in a way that it's not super important who did what, that just kinda makes things more interesting, the plotlines and the overarching story progresses anyways.
3. I think this series must be re-read anyway. I sure as hell will sometime after i finished. Now i confess i DLd the books, but once i'm finished and I find the actual books somewhere in a book-store (havent yet), i'm buying and re-reading them.

Oh, and book 7 is fucking awesome, forgot to say that, i think i finished this one the fastest
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 11 2014 14:15 GMT
#526
On September 05 2014 17:42 B.I.G. wrote:
Just finished the Bone Hunters. Six down four to go. Sad to see some of the characters die (although seeing as how this is the malazan universe there is a pretty decent chance of them coming back in some way). Hoping for more Anomander Rake and Kruppe stuff since I kind of enjoy the whole Genabackis story more.

Time to start Reaper's Gale.


It's a war, people die in war.
DarthXX
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia998 Posts
September 14 2014 09:23 GMT
#527
On September 05 2014 17:42 B.I.G. wrote:
Just finished the Bone Hunters. Six down four to go. Sad to see some of the characters die (although seeing as how this is the malazan universe there is a pretty decent chance of them coming back in some way). Hoping for more Anomander Rake and Kruppe stuff since I kind of enjoy the whole Genabackis story more.

Time to start Reaper's Gale.


Ahh Anomander Rake what a boss + Show Spoiler [Book 8 Spoiler] +
;_; never4get
Nyovne
Profile Joined March 2006
Netherlands19138 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-17 20:48:37
September 17 2014 20:48 GMT
#528
Just finished Assail. Not the best book (not a great Esslemont fan) but it was an emotional ride knowing it to be the last malazan book. Now it's just kharkanas and Karsa but those shouldn't touch on the Empire anymore. It's been a great ride.

Esslemont:
1) Night of Knives
2) Return of the Crimson Guard
3) Assail
4) Stonewielder (Liked it alot better on my second read.)
5) Orb Sceptre Throne (What a HUGE failed opportunity this was! A travesty that Erikson didn't write it.)
6) Blood and bone (Absolutely hated it, what a boring book.)
ModeratorFor remember, that in the end, some are born to live, others born to die. I belong to those last, born to burn, born to cry. For I shall remain alone... forsaken.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 17 2014 20:49 GMT
#529
I actually haven't read any of the Esslemont books. Are they worth picking up?
B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
September 22 2014 15:50 GMT
#530
Alright so I guess this has kind of become my malazan reading log. I'm well into the second half of Reapers Gale now (ahead of schedule I suppose) and just remembered a few things I need to remind myself to figure out:

-Who or what was the undead dragon described in the end of book two, flying ominously over Iskaral Pust I believe.
-Who is the guy that can't put down his swords that helped put the Mybe into her final resting place (together with Coll and someone else in Memories of Ice).
-Topper where art thou
-Dassem Ultor. Show that mug of yours already, I know you're about to pop out of one of these pages any day now.
-Also need to figure out what the point was to the insane murder puppet in Gardens of the Moon.

As I said, this is just a note to self so no answers (and especially spoilers ) needed. Wish me luck with the final quarter of this series...
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 22 2014 16:19 GMT
#531
The answer to your last question should have been in Gardens of the Moon if I recall correctly. Just think of it from the Empressed POV although what transpired wasn't exactly as planned. Second has to do with how the Houses are structured, in this case the House of Death. That hint along with another he mentions could connect the dots for you but you would have to be paying a lot of attention at the time.
Nesto
Profile Joined November 2009
Switzerland1318 Posts
September 22 2014 18:21 GMT
#532
On September 18 2014 05:49 Numy wrote:
I actually haven't read any of the Esslemont books. Are they worth picking up?


Not really sure... some are good, some are okayish, others are downright awful.

Stonewielder and Return of the Crimson Guard are good, not Erikson level but quite good.
I'd say Night of Knives is fine - rather short though.

Orb Scepter Throne had a great setting, but in the end you will just facepalm at all the missed potential.
Don't touch Blood and Bone, not even with a stick.

Haven't read Assail yet.
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-22 18:36:19
September 22 2014 18:35 GMT
#533
@ B.I.G
- Keep reading. Not spoiling. (Also not sure if this has been hinted at, it may have been).
- This is known to you already.
- Don't know.
- Keep reading. Not spoiling. (Also not sure if this has been hinted at. I think it has but I could be wrong).
- To maybe show the nature of the warren of chaos and the dangers of it? Seemed like a twisted mage gone power hungry with his own designs. Basically Quick Ben saved him. He was a mage of the empire after all who worked under Dujek and had a rivalry of sorts with Tayschrenn. Then he wandered through chaos and became more and more volatile, Quick Ben decided he was dangerous/of no more use and made sure he died. He had no bearing on the rest of the books.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
DarthXX
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia998 Posts
September 25 2014 19:24 GMT
#534
On September 23 2014 00:50 B.I.G. wrote:
Alright so I guess this has kind of become my malazan reading log. I'm well into the second half of Reapers Gale now (ahead of schedule I suppose) and just remembered a few things I need to remind myself to figure out:

-Who or what was the undead dragon described in the end of book two, flying ominously over Iskaral Pust I believe.
-Who is the guy that can't put down his swords that helped put the Mybe into her final resting place (together with Coll and someone else in Memories of Ice).
-Topper where art thou
-Dassem Ultor. Show that mug of yours already, I know you're about to pop out of one of these pages any day now.
-Also need to figure out what the point was to the insane murder puppet in Gardens of the Moon.

As I said, this is just a note to self so no answers (and especially spoilers ) needed. Wish me luck with the final quarter of this series...


IIRC this was Baudin who was burned to death in book 2. In MoI He makes a reference to failing to protect a child (Felisin)
XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
September 25 2014 19:56 GMT
#535
On September 18 2014 05:48 Nyovne wrote:
Just finished Assail. Not the best book (not a great Esslemont fan) but it was an emotional ride knowing it to be the last malazan book. Now it's just kharkanas and Karsa but those shouldn't touch on the Empire anymore. It's been a great ride.

Esslemont:
1) Night of Knives
2) Return of the Crimson Guard
3) Assail
4) Stonewielder (Liked it alot better on my second read.)
5) Orb Sceptre Throne (What a HUGE failed opportunity this was! A travesty that Erikson didn't write it.)
6) Blood and bone (Absolutely hated it, what a boring book.)


Well then I have good news for you. ICE is going to write a few pre-empire books as his next projects. Dancer's Lament is the next one apparently.
B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
September 28 2014 08:30 GMT
#536
Just finished Reaper's Gale. Another awesome story... Really liked the addition of Beak's story, although I somehow have the feeling that initially Bottle was set up to go down Beak's path until Erikson decided he liked Bottle too much or needed him later in the story of something... I was also a little bit confused by + Show Spoiler +
Tool suddenly becoming the leader of the White Face Barghast and arriving in Lether to avenge the death of Toc's Greyswords, who apparently also arrived there earlier.
But I guess this is all a set up for later books.

Anyway from Toll the Hounds' synopsis I gather the story switched back to Genabackis and, most importantly, Rake and Kruppe. Awesome.
Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-30 20:05:54
September 30 2014 20:03 GMT
#537
On September 28 2014 17:30 B.I.G. wrote:
Just finished Reaper's Gale. Another awesome story... Really liked the addition of Beak's story, although I somehow have the feeling that initially Bottle was set up to go down Beak's path until Erikson decided he liked Bottle too much or needed him later in the story of something... I was also a little bit confused by + Show Spoiler +
Tool suddenly becoming the leader of the White Face Barghast and arriving in Lether to avenge the death of Toc's Greyswords, who apparently also arrived there earlier.
But I guess this is all a set up for later books.

Anyway from Toll the Hounds' synopsis I gather the story switched back to Genabackis and, most importantly, Rake and Kruppe. Awesome.

+ Show Spoiler [Tool] +
He sorta married the biggest chieftains daughter, and on top of that had the Imass look, which the Barghast regard as their ancestors. The Barghast travels back overseas to their old homeland, which they fled from the edur (called something akin to sea-harriers - grey ghasts - in Memories of Ice IIRC).
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
Westy
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
England808 Posts
October 04 2014 10:49 GMT
#538
Just started reading this series. Is this thread heavy with spoilers? If so guess I shall avoid it and return in a couple of months! (Not read any posts so far just in case)
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
October 04 2014 11:06 GMT
#539
We try not to spoil at least in the later pages, I can say for the whole thread though.
B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
October 04 2014 19:13 GMT
#540
So much stuff happens and there are so many story lines that (i think) a spoiler that encompasses even 10% of the outcome would need 50 pages at least.
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