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On March 27 2014 19:28 B.I.G. wrote:I was wondering if you guys knew about something like a spoiler free wiki and possibly a comprehensive world map that has all the continents in detail, or is the series of small maps all there is? Anyways thanks once again TL for showing me this series because I think its gonna be an awesome one!
There is no comprehensive world map. There's a few fan made attempts.
I think this is a pretty solid representation of where everything lies although it isn't detailed
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You can find a collection of the smaller maps here and pair some up to fill in the details e.g. check the full map of Genabackis and see how the detail overlays with the continent in the fan map.
http://malazan.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Maps
Not sure about any spoiler free resources. Been a while since I was actively browsing Malazan stuff.
Glad you enjoyed your first dip into the Malazan world!
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im reading Midnight Tides... i was happy after book 3 and 4, having understood more or less the magic, the god realms and got familiar with many characters.+ Show Spoiler +
Well, fuck all that, let s talk a few hundred pages about the Edur who are unrelated to all that shit u learnt till now -.-
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That's what happens. It's all related though(Actually really relevant too) you just don't know how yet. You get to meet Tehol now though which is awesome. + Show Spoiler +I tear up just thinking about WJ. Honestly Malazan books are just a rollercoaster of emotional torment.
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Tehol is the best character in the universe. Except for maybe Bugg.
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Dancer is also pretty cool. We just don't really get to see much of him unfortunately. Would love to read a prequel where we get to see all guys building the Empire.
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On March 31 2014 00:18 VisceraEyes wrote: Tehol is the best character in the universe. Except for maybe Bugg. well, yeah, i loved those 2 this far, but the other 20 characters with un-rememberable names in this book, i really dont give a fuck about. Fear is pretty cool i guess, but the rest, i cant even recall their names after a few days
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On March 31 2014 07:42 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2014 00:18 VisceraEyes wrote: Tehol is the best character in the universe. Except for maybe Bugg. well, yeah, i loved those 2 this far, but the other 20 characters with un-rememberable names in this book, i really dont give a fuck about. Fear is pretty cool i guess, but the rest, i cant even recall their names after a few days
you should be used to this by now! haha but yeah, the transition is a bit jarring. The characters will fill out though, and become very important. + Show Spoiler +I love Rhulad's character, and the story arc leading to trull's death is probably one of my favorite arcs in the series
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Although I'm only 200 something pages into book two I have to say I'm sad Kruppe isn't in it (so far). That guy is a baller, using his magic to steal food 'n shit. Hope he will come back in later books.
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I always wonder if Kruppe just woke up one day and decided to start acting the way he does.
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On April 05 2014 05:23 B.I.G. wrote: Although I'm only 200 something pages into book two I have to say I'm sad Kruppe isn't in it (so far). That guy is a baller, using his magic to steal food 'n shit. Hope he will come back in later books.
Never fear, Kruppe has a large role to play in future books. My personal favorite being an epic mounted duel far later in the series. That and a misunderstanding with a man with a rather large hammer.
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Hi guys I have another question. I'm making good progress in book two (a bit more than one third in) and enjoying to so far. However, some names of creatures/beings still confuse me (specifically D'Ivers and Soletaken). I am pretty sure I haven't missed any detailed explanation on what they exactly are. I am tempted to check out the books wiki to get my answer. However I can imagine this could be a stupid idea because it could contain major spoilers.
So my question in short: is it wise to look up such terms online or is it sometimes necessary to the plot to let some of the names have somewhat of a vague meeting?
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Generally just let the book tell the story. Usually if something is important but unclear Erikson will visit it a couple of times.
in a nutshell though:
+ Show Spoiler +Both are types of shapeshifters, and the ability is acquired through a ritual
A Soletaken is somebody who can shape-shift into one animal.
A D'ivers is somebody who can shape-shift into multiple versions of an animal.
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Ok then I indeed understand the most important part... Sometimes things happen so fast in the book that you can miss something important like the characters entering some weird ass warren just because you accidentally skipped a line of text... Still, it's a good exercise in concentrated reading for me
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Just picked up book 3 again now that I have some time to continue my re-read, and damn some parts are tough to read when you know what's gonna happen...
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On April 11 2014 16:47 Nisyax wrote: Just picked up book 3 again now that I have some time to continue my re-read, and damn some parts are though to read when you know what's gonna happen...
I stopped my rereading of the series because I couldn't handle it. Maybe i'm just a pussy but it was way easier to read when I didn't know what was going to happen ;(
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Just starting on this series. As a huge fantasy fan I'm a little disappointed in myself for getting to this so late. Really excited for another long epic after finishing the Wheel of Time last year, and I've heard this is significantly more complex so that should be fun.
I've heard some people have difficulty keeping up with everything that's happening, any advice for someone just getting started?
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As a recent starter myself here are my tips: -Pay close attention. Unlike many other books Erikson does not have lengthy descriptions of landscapes or occurrences. Important changes or revelations are sometimes described in as little as 2 or 3 lines of text. - Shit is confusing as hell the first 100 pages, but after 200 pages or so you start getting a grip on what is actually going on. -Details. Pay attention to them.
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I feel a bit that if you are confused, it is probably because the character you are reading about is intended to be confused, so the writing is confusing.
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Just keep reading, really. Sometimes certain concepts or races etc will be introduced to the reader without explanation but eventually things will start to make sense. That can happen in the next chapter or even a few books down the line.
Also, don't feel obligated to remember all the minor characters, the ones that matter will stick.
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Ok so I just finished reading Deadhouse Gates. I agree with the sentiment of some people that Deadhouse Gates is a better written story, but overall I enjoyed the characters of Gardens of the Moon more. I was so frustrated near the end when (spoiler alert) + Show Spoiler +fucking pormqual lets EVERYONE get butchered or tortured to death and coltaine doesn't even get his props..and he gets away with just a beheading ffs... oh well
The story can still be somewhat confusing at times with things such as random dragon appearances, but by now I have learned to simply take note of such cameos and trust that at some point it will make sense. Another spoiler: + Show Spoiler +I'm guessing that the two cameos of the big undead dragon might have something to do with the crippled god that is probably going to play a big role in the story from now on.
All in all another great read that keeps training my abilities to understand sometimes confusing texts and forces me to pay close attention to every word. Can't wait to start the next book to the true hero of the story: Kruppe.
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