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On January 13 2014 04:27 Malinor wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2014 04:00 Numy wrote:On January 13 2014 01:43 Geo.Rion wrote:
Second book is pretty lame so far, compared how much epic classhing was going on in the first, and how exciting the Tiste Andii were. Now there s not a word of Rake or his followers, and im reading 100 pages about Paran's kid sister selling her body -.- Poor girl, breaks my heart just thinking about her. Her character is fantastic, one of my favourites in the series.
so far, i dont agree... yes her fate sucked so far, but there wasnt much character development, she immedatly was ready to do anything to stay alive, and blame others when suited her conciousness. we'll see where she goes from here
compared to Arya and Sansa in Asoiaf, who systematically lose their identity and turn into a sociopath and an emotionless puppet
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You'll hate her so much more before you start to like her.
Such a good character.
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On January 13 2014 05:24 itkovian wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2014 04:27 Malinor wrote:On January 13 2014 04:00 Numy wrote:On January 13 2014 01:43 Geo.Rion wrote:
Second book is pretty lame so far, compared how much epic classhing was going on in the first, and how exciting the Tiste Andii were. Now there s not a word of Rake or his followers, and im reading 100 pages about Paran's kid sister selling her body -.- Poor girl, breaks my heart just thinking about her. Her character is fantastic, one of my favourites in the series. i agree. however, fuck tavore
I think Tavore is awesome, along with Tehol & Bugg and maybe Shadowthrone my favorite character in the series.
She stays so enigmatic throughout the story. Honestly though, there are so many great characters in this that it's hard to pick favorites.
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Just finished Deadhouse Gates. Man.. so sad, yet so angry at the same time.  Coltaine was just too boss. Now I feel like I need to go back and reread GoTM before I start on Memories of Ice. I feel like I've already forgotten some pivotal points from it and MoI picks up where it left off. ><
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On January 13 2014 08:23 ShivaN wrote:Just finished Deadhouse Gates. Man.. so sad, yet so angry at the same time. Coltaine was just too boss. Now I feel like I need to go back and reread GoTM before I start on Memories of Ice. I feel like I've already forgotten some pivotal points from it and MoI picks up where it left off. ><
Just go ahead and read Memories of Ice. You might feel like you're missing some things about Kruppe and Paran (such as details of his walk through Dragnipur), but it doesn't warrant a re-read. The 3rd book is a lot better than the first, wouldn't waste my time reading GotM again.
I just started House of Chains (Book 4). Don't really like this Karsa character.
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Omgomgomg he doesn't know ^^
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It would be nice if OP or mod edit the title post with a poll or 2 on how TL-ers enjoyed/rated the book. I just stumble here and not sure where to find good reviews without reading spoilers T_T...
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The characters in this series really are amazing. Loved most of them tbh.
Anomander best character. Ultimate BAMF.
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On January 15 2014 10:05 lysergic wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2014 08:23 ShivaN wrote:Just finished Deadhouse Gates. Man.. so sad, yet so angry at the same time. Coltaine was just too boss. Now I feel like I need to go back and reread GoTM before I start on Memories of Ice. I feel like I've already forgotten some pivotal points from it and MoI picks up where it left off. >< Just go ahead and read Memories of Ice. You might feel like you're missing some things about Kruppe and Paran (such as details of his walk through Dragnipur), but it doesn't warrant a re-read. The 3rd book is a lot better than the first, wouldn't waste my time reading GotM again. I just started House of Chains (Book 4). Don't really like this Karsa character.
Karsa remains a self-centered ass throughout the series tbh.
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On January 15 2014 10:49 SK.Testie wrote:
The characters in this series really are amazing. Loved most of them tbh.
Anomander best character. Ultimate BAMF.
I think Rake might be one of the most godlike characters in any series, ever. From your first encounter with him till the very end. He's so mind-blowingly powerful. I love how everyone, from Elder Gods to Soletaken fears and/or respects him.
Still get chills thinking about his ending.
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On January 15 2014 10:41 NB wrote:
It would be nice if OP or mod edit the title post with a poll or 2 on how TL-ers enjoyed/rated the book. I just stumble here and not sure where to find good reviews without reading spoilers T_T...
Read them.
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One thing i dont really get, and im not sure if it's inconsistency or i misunderstood something.
I recall Rake talking with the Head of the Alchemists, about how his leadership is not uncontested, and others, such as Kaladan Brood (or even his own 2nd in command) would step in and take his role if he were to betray Darujisthan. Meaning he's the uncontested and independant leader of the Tiste Andii atm, in an uneasy alliance with Brood.
However, at the start of Memories of Ice the Tiste Andii are refered to as part of Kaladan's forces, and there s a sentence (i think Crone's inner monologue) where it's said that Brood never shown his own true power, nor did he let loose Anamando Rake.
So who's in charge?
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On January 18 2014 19:12 Geo.Rion wrote:
One thing i dont really get, and im not sure if it's inconsistency or i misunderstood something.
I recall Rake talking with the Head of the Alchemists, about how his leadership is not uncontested, and others, such as Kaladan Brood (or even his own 2nd in command) would step in and take his role if he were to betray Darujisthan. Meaning he's the uncontested and independant leader of the Tiste Andii atm, in an uneasy alliance with Brood.
However, at the start of Memories of Ice the Tiste Andii are refered to as part of Kaladan's forces, and there s a sentence (i think Crone's inner monologue) where it's said that Brood never shown his own true power, nor did he let loose Anamando Rake.
So who's in charge?
I think its more of an alliance than one who is in change of the other.
Brood is considered to be a leader of the army (Warlord), but Rake is just Rake. He's too boss to have anyone command him what to do. Too unpredictable.
As for second book and talking with the alchemist, he means among Tiste Andii. Hes son of darkness after all.
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Reading Memories of Ice, so f-ing epic and awesome, i cannot believe how vast this universe is and how interconnected almost all things are in it. That writer is a genius.
One thing which i find kinda funny though, in a rather realistic (not real, but logical in its boundaries) universe, these bridgeburners are a bit too fucking stacked. I mean it s one thing to have awesome leader such as Whiskeyjack, but they have the best f-ing assassin of the whole empire (Kalam), maybe not the strongest, but definetly the craftiest and wittiest mage of the realm, not to mention Paran who seems to be assending to become the ruler of the deck and the list goes on.
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well the malazan army in itself is a bit OP actually. They got the moranth munitions and huge numbers of all kinds of mages.
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On January 22 2014 06:27 Skilledblob wrote:
well the malazan army in itself is a bit OP actually. They got the moranth munitions and huge numbers of all kinds of mages.
In some plots it also feels like they have quite a bit of plot armor as well tbh.
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well every major character has plott armor to some extent, tho I dont think it's that bad. Thing with the malazans is that they got a lot of strong healers that's why they survive when most other armies in the books would just have all those wounded / soon to be dead with them
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On January 23 2014 07:50 Skilledblob wrote:
well every major character has plott armor to some extent, tho I dont think it's that bad. Thing with the malazans is that they got a lot of strong healers that's why they survive when most other armies in the books would just have all those wounded / soon to be dead with them
Most of their wins, specially in the end of the series, just seem a bit too miraculous. For a series that attempts to be fairly realistic for a fantasy series, I felt it relies a bit too much in one in a million odds situations.
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