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Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
January 09 2014 09:01 GMT
#421
started readin this...
im so f-ing lost...
i dont understand the magic in this world, i get that it s connected to Warrens but how when what, no clue.
and some characters are gods, but are refered to differently... or does that mean there are gods, and then there are these High Shadow people, which is a separate chathegory?
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
itkovian
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1763 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-11 16:56:04
January 11 2014 03:05 GMT
#422
there are no set-in-stone rules for gods and magic in the malazan universe. Its very chaotic, I would recommend not trying to make too much sense of it at first haha

i found the most enjoyment from these books by appreciating each showdown and "convergence" independently, regarding it as a moment, ignoring the details, and putting a little trust in the author. Waiting for explanations is a frustrating game to play; often explanations will come books later in the series.

=)=
elt
Profile Joined July 2010
Thailand1092 Posts
January 11 2014 07:42 GMT
#423
On January 09 2014 18:01 Geo.Rion wrote:
started readin this...
im so f-ing lost...
i dont understand the magic in this world, i get that it s connected to Warrens but how when what, no clue.
and some characters are gods, but are refered to differently... or does that mean there are gods, and then there are these High Shadow people, which is a separate chathegory?


Take Gardens of the Moon as-is. There are some GotM-isms in there (like translation of the T'lan Imass for example) that are ironed out and kept consistent in the rest of the novel.

Things will be explained in time, and the interplay between magic and Warrens is sort of a plot point as well.

Also if it helps, don't think of them as gods, just really, really, really powerful assholes.
(Under Construction)
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 11 2014 07:57 GMT
#424
Yeah things start to become clear(er) around the second or third book, but all of them are relatively enjoyable reads. It's a patient person's series imo...I struggled to get through GotM too at first.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
2stra
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands928 Posts
January 11 2014 11:03 GMT
#425
There are layers upon layers upon layers in this series. Sometimes, a few books along the way, you'll get an explanation of something that happened in a previous book and then it suddenly clicks.

I think it's best to read each book as is and gradually things will start to make sense. Somewhat.

There were many times where I was fed up with getting thrown in at the deep end in some new part of the world, with new characters and new "gods" and no apparent ties to the other books. Looking back though these are the books/parts I enjoyed the most. (I'm mostly talking book five here :D)

Perseverance will be rewarded IMO
itkovian
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1763 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-11 16:56:17
January 11 2014 16:55 GMT
#426
edit: wooooops
=)=
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-11 17:17:48
January 11 2014 17:16 GMT
#427
On January 09 2014 18:01 Geo.Rion wrote:
started readin this...
im so f-ing lost...
i dont understand the magic in this world, i get that it s connected to Warrens but how when what, no clue.
and some characters are gods, but are refered to differently... or does that mean there are gods, and then there are these High Shadow people, which is a separate chathegory?

There are things related to the Gods/Elder Gods/Ascendants that are only just explained or given significant detail to in the latest prequel Forge of Darkness.

My suggestion is to just read and let yourself be confused a little. The longer you stick with the series the more it will make sense, and more of its charm will shine through. Accept that you won't fully comprehend what is going on all the time, and it will probably be revealed to you and make you think back to that time in that other book when you didn't know what the hell was going on. Then if you're like me or a lot of the other fans you'll want to re-read them all again and gain a whole new appreciation for them
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-12 16:43:58
January 12 2014 16:43 GMT
#428
finished with Book 1, was awesome, even though i still dont get how magic works, but thanks for assuring me that im not even suppoused to. OK, i gathered some, there s this Tartot cards like prediction magic, and Warrens used for battle, each mage having his/her own.

Second book is pretty lame so far, compared how much epic classhing was going on in the first, and how exciting the Tiste Andii were. Now there s not a word of Rake or his followers, and im reading 100 pages about Paran's kid sister selling her body -.-
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Barteh
Profile Joined July 2011
Netherlands108 Posts
January 12 2014 16:48 GMT
#429
On January 13 2014 01:43 Geo.Rion wrote:
finished with Book 1, was awesome, even though i still dont get how magic works, but thanks for assuring me that im not even suppoused to. OK, i gathered some, there s this Tartot cards like prediction magic, and Warrens used for battle, each mage having his/her own.

Second book is pretty lame so far, compared how much epic classhing was going on in the first, and how exciting the Tiste Andii were. Now there s not a word of Rake or his followers, and im reading 100 pages about Paran's kid sister selling her body -.-


This is something you'll find happening more often; the last pages of the books are *always* much more exciting than the first couple. I've found that it gets better the later you get in the series, so as others have advised, keep going! It's worth it.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
January 12 2014 16:53 GMT
#430
On January 13 2014 01:43 Geo.Rion wrote:
finished with Book 1, was awesome, even though i still dont get how magic works, but thanks for assuring me that im not even suppoused to. OK, i gathered some, there s this Tartot cards like prediction magic, and Warrens used for battle, each mage having his/her own.

Second book is pretty lame so far, compared how much epic classhing was going on in the first, and how exciting the Tiste Andii were. Now there s not a word of Rake or his followers, and im reading 100 pages about Paran's kid sister selling her body -.-

I didn't like the second book at first, either. But stick with it. It is the best in the series.
itkovian
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1763 Posts
January 12 2014 17:21 GMT
#431
On January 13 2014 01:53 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2014 01:43 Geo.Rion wrote:
finished with Book 1, was awesome, even though i still dont get how magic works, but thanks for assuring me that im not even suppoused to. OK, i gathered some, there s this Tartot cards like prediction magic, and Warrens used for battle, each mage having his/her own.

Second book is pretty lame so far, compared how much epic classhing was going on in the first, and how exciting the Tiste Andii were. Now there s not a word of Rake or his followers, and im reading 100 pages about Paran's kid sister selling her body -.-

I didn't like the second book at first, either. But stick with it. It is the best in the series.


*one of the best

I would argue the 3rd and 5th book are just as good, but yea, the 2nd is definitely one of the top three. And it does start off pretty slow
=)=
elt
Profile Joined July 2010
Thailand1092 Posts
January 12 2014 17:25 GMT
#432
Just be assured to if you enjoyed GotM you'll come to love and enjoy the characters and plot lines of the other events going on (if only because the characters are all pretty similar . . .). Deadhouse Gates starts slow but it is one of the big highlights of the entire series.
(Under Construction)
Pinnacle55
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore173 Posts
January 12 2014 17:25 GMT
#433
Can anyone please recap what was the Silchas Ruin subplot in Reaper's Gale? I'm starting on the 8th book, but I left my previous 7 back home. For the life of me, I cannot remember what happened in that particular subplot. I remember it was a journey with Silchas and two other dudes, but I have no idea who they are.

Thanks very much, I know it's pretty hard (as is trying to summarise any one storyline in this series)

There is hopeful symbolism in the fact that flags do not wave in a vacuum.
2stra
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands928 Posts
January 12 2014 17:43 GMT
#434
Every book in the series starts off slow if you compare it to the climactic convergence of the previous book

Book two and five are definitely my favorites though.

Tehol & Bugg ftw
elt
Profile Joined July 2010
Thailand1092 Posts
January 12 2014 17:47 GMT
#435
Just be assured to if you enjoyed GotM you'll come to love and enjoy the characters and plot lines of the other events going on (if only because the characters are all pretty similar . . .). Deadhouse Gates starts slow but it is one of the big highlights of the entire series.
(Under Construction)
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-12 18:07:31
January 12 2014 17:47 GMT
#436
On January 13 2014 02:43 2stra wrote:
Every book in the series starts off slow if you compare it to the climactic convergence of the previous book

Book two and five are definitely my favorites though.

Tehol & Bugg ftw

well, pretty early in GotM there was the huge mage battle, that was pretty intense, and didnt slow from there much

EDIT: and the names were epic and easy to remeber, i mean Whikeyjack, Tattersail, Nightchill etc...
either could have been a heavy metal band name
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
2stra
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands928 Posts
January 12 2014 17:54 GMT
#437
On January 13 2014 02:47 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2014 02:43 2stra wrote:
Every book in the series starts off slow if you compare it to the climactic convergence of the previous book

Book two and five are definitely my favorites though.

Tehol & Bugg ftw

well, pretty early in GotM there was the huge mage battle, that was pretty intense, and didnt slow from there much


Yeah that's true, it is pretty action-packed. I guess I mean slow more as in; slow when it comes to character- and plot progression
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
January 12 2014 19:00 GMT
#438
On January 13 2014 01:43 Geo.Rion wrote:
Second book is pretty lame so far, compared how much epic classhing was going on in the first, and how exciting the Tiste Andii were. Now there s not a word of Rake or his followers, and im reading 100 pages about Paran's kid sister selling her body -.-


Poor girl, breaks my heart just thinking about her.
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4732 Posts
January 12 2014 19:27 GMT
#439
On January 13 2014 04:00 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2014 01:43 Geo.Rion wrote:
Second book is pretty lame so far, compared how much epic classhing was going on in the first, and how exciting the Tiste Andii were. Now there s not a word of Rake or his followers, and im reading 100 pages about Paran's kid sister selling her body -.-


Poor girl, breaks my heart just thinking about her.


Her character is fantastic, one of my favourites in the series.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
itkovian
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1763 Posts
January 12 2014 20:24 GMT
#440
On January 13 2014 04:27 Malinor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2014 04:00 Numy wrote:
On January 13 2014 01:43 Geo.Rion wrote:
Second book is pretty lame so far, compared how much epic classhing was going on in the first, and how exciting the Tiste Andii were. Now there s not a word of Rake or his followers, and im reading 100 pages about Paran's kid sister selling her body -.-


Poor girl, breaks my heart just thinking about her.


Her character is fantastic, one of my favourites in the series.


i agree. however, fuck tavore
=)=
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