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Sindriss
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark263 Posts
March 24 2013 09:13 GMT
#381
I really loved Tehol+Bugg - they made for an awesome and very funny duo.

@Scarecrow: Actually, a lot of people feel that MT is either extremely good or very weird (on the first read). I think it is because it moves away from all that you know up to this point and explores a completely new continent.
However, upon rereading, most people actually discover it for the gem that it is. MT is generally considered one of the strongest books in the series, at least once you have done a reread.

FoD was nice, I really enjoyed all the ancient myths coming to live. Anything about when FoL will be out?
itkovian
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1763 Posts
March 24 2013 19:46 GMT
#382
On March 24 2013 13:13 Stoli wrote:
I'm about to start Blood and Bone.. I recognized like 3 names from the character list. It's typical of this series but I clearly keep coming back.


Haha, yea, I hated that feeling. That's one flaw of the malazan universe, too many characters to learn. And too many damn marines and soldier grunts that I don't care enough about.
=)=
McBengt
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1684 Posts
March 24 2013 19:51 GMT
#383
You can usually get along just fine without memorizing the whole cast of characters. The books are so well written that the important ones will stick out by themselves and you will likely associate them more with actions and personalities than names after a while.

And you guys are all wrong, Hellian is the best character, hands down.
"My twelve year old will out-reason Bill Maher when it comes to understanding, you know, what, uh, how to logic work" - Rick Santorum
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
March 25 2013 14:24 GMT
#384
thank you for this thread! I just finished a song of ice and fire and need another series to listen in my commutes!
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
Stoli
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada173 Posts
April 23 2013 11:50 GMT
#385
On March 25 2013 23:24 AoN.DimSum wrote:
thank you for this thread! I just finished a song of ice and fire and need another series to listen in my commutes!


It definitely gets the intricacy down, and is a great fantasy novel, but it doesn't really read like ASOIAF at all. Far more soldiers in armies, gods, and mages.. much less noble families, political intrigue and vague prophecy (lots of vague though).

I honestly think nearly any Brandon Sanderson series, The Name of the Wind, The Lies of Locke Lamora are not just easier reads, but simply better.

I love this series but it's an odd one, and not that similar to GRRM. Give it a go if you like but yea, I wouldn't recommend trying to tackle it as an audiobook.
Twisting joints like a contortionist
Rimstalker
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany734 Posts
April 23 2013 12:01 GMT
#386
Name of the Wind better than the Malazan books?

To each his own. Soo many superb characters in the Malazan books, so many plot twists, so many mermorable quotes. So little of that in Name of the wind. Some of the Malazan books, I read until dawn on the first read-through, now I'm on my 3rd pass.
Here be Dragons
Wonderberg
Profile Joined November 2012
Netherlands112 Posts
April 23 2013 12:27 GMT
#387
since im looking to start a new series, would you guyd reccomend this one when my favourite authors are brandon sanderson/terry goodkind(obv nothing after sot)/robin hobb (not the latest books)/early feist.
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-23 12:52:41
April 23 2013 12:50 GMT
#388
On April 23 2013 21:27 Wonderberg wrote:
since im looking to start a new series, would you guyd reccomend this one when my favourite authors are brandon sanderson/terry goodkind(obv nothing after sot)/robin hobb (not the latest books)/early feist.


These books have everything you can look for in a fantasy, and maybe too much of it , but I really like it. Lots of characters, unexplained events. The unexplained parts can be aggravating, but there are so much gems in these books in conversations/humor/quotes, cool characters, etc

So in combination with the writers you mentioned, I couldn't say for sure, as I feel that Malazan Book of The Fallen is so excessive in scope that it his hard to compare to other fantasy series
h41fgod
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden377 Posts
April 23 2013 12:52 GMT
#389
On April 23 2013 21:27 Wonderberg wrote:
since im looking to start a new series, would you guyd reccomend this one when my favourite authors are brandon sanderson/terry goodkind(obv nothing after sot)/robin hobb (not the latest books)/early feist.

This and Dresden. Only things in fantasy I would recommend now.
kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
April 23 2013 13:00 GMT
#390
On April 23 2013 21:27 Wonderberg wrote:
since im looking to start a new series, would you guyd reccomend this one when my favourite authors are brandon sanderson/terry goodkind(obv nothing after sot)/robin hobb (not the latest books)/early feist.

name of the wind by patrick rothfuss gets my vote. Two great books so far and less of an undertaking than Malazan books.

I love both, although with either I can see why people wouldn't agree.
Wonderberg
Profile Joined November 2012
Netherlands112 Posts
April 23 2013 13:04 GMT
#391
On April 23 2013 21:50 Ketch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 21:27 Wonderberg wrote:
since im looking to start a new series, would you guyd reccomend this one when my favourite authors are brandon sanderson/terry goodkind(obv nothing after sot)/robin hobb (not the latest books)/early feist.


These books have everything you can look for in a fantasy, and maybe too much of it , but I really like it. Lots of characters, unexplained events. The unexplained parts can be aggravating, but there are so much gems in these books in conversations/humor/quotes, cool characters, etc

So in combination with the writers you mentioned, I couldn't say for sure, as I feel that Malazan Book of The Fallen is so excessive in scope that it his hard to compare to other fantasy series


thx for the advice but I can hardly imagine this being bigger in scope then wot or feists midkemia series. im gonna give it a go now omw to the bookstore!
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-23 13:08:31
April 23 2013 13:07 GMT
#392
finished return of the crimson guard, very good book, hope the "talian princess" stuff gets some stuff in the next books else it would ve been super pointless to write page after page about it..

besides that its a super fun read and is very close to eriksons work, cant be compared to night of knives which was poorly written and only mildly nice cuz of the background infos.

started to read stonewielder know, kinda sad what happens to iron bars he was kinda cool
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
April 23 2013 13:33 GMT
#393
On April 23 2013 22:04 Wonderberg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 21:50 Ketch wrote:
On April 23 2013 21:27 Wonderberg wrote:
since im looking to start a new series, would you guyd reccomend this one when my favourite authors are brandon sanderson/terry goodkind(obv nothing after sot)/robin hobb (not the latest books)/early feist.


These books have everything you can look for in a fantasy, and maybe too much of it , but I really like it. Lots of characters, unexplained events. The unexplained parts can be aggravating, but there are so much gems in these books in conversations/humor/quotes, cool characters, etc

So in combination with the writers you mentioned, I couldn't say for sure, as I feel that Malazan Book of The Fallen is so excessive in scope that it his hard to compare to other fantasy series


thx for the advice but I can hardly imagine this being bigger in scope then wot or feists midkemia series. im gonna give it a go now omw to the bookstore!


It's far bigger in scope than WoT at least, haven't read the other series. It really does get to a point it may be excessive, but that depends a lot on individual taste.
Wonderberg
Profile Joined November 2012
Netherlands112 Posts
April 23 2013 13:39 GMT
#394
On April 23 2013 22:33 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 22:04 Wonderberg wrote:
On April 23 2013 21:50 Ketch wrote:
On April 23 2013 21:27 Wonderberg wrote:
since im looking to start a new series, would you guyd reccomend this one when my favourite authors are brandon sanderson/terry goodkind(obv nothing after sot)/robin hobb (not the latest books)/early feist.


These books have everything you can look for in a fantasy, and maybe too much of it , but I really like it. Lots of characters, unexplained events. The unexplained parts can be aggravating, but there are so much gems in these books in conversations/humor/quotes, cool characters, etc

So in combination with the writers you mentioned, I couldn't say for sure, as I feel that Malazan Book of The Fallen is so excessive in scope that it his hard to compare to other fantasy series


thx for the advice but I can hardly imagine this being bigger in scope then wot or feists midkemia series. im gonna give it a go now omw to the bookstore!


It's far bigger in scope than WoT at least, haven't read the other series. It really does get to a point it may be excessive, but that depends a lot on individual taste.


turns out my bookstore (the only one in town) doest have gardens of the moon bought rothfuss instead. ordered gardensof the moon online but will apparently take 9 days to arrive :/
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
April 23 2013 14:12 GMT
#395
On April 23 2013 22:39 Wonderberg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 22:33 SKC wrote:
On April 23 2013 22:04 Wonderberg wrote:
On April 23 2013 21:50 Ketch wrote:
On April 23 2013 21:27 Wonderberg wrote:
since im looking to start a new series, would you guyd reccomend this one when my favourite authors are brandon sanderson/terry goodkind(obv nothing after sot)/robin hobb (not the latest books)/early feist.


These books have everything you can look for in a fantasy, and maybe too much of it , but I really like it. Lots of characters, unexplained events. The unexplained parts can be aggravating, but there are so much gems in these books in conversations/humor/quotes, cool characters, etc

So in combination with the writers you mentioned, I couldn't say for sure, as I feel that Malazan Book of The Fallen is so excessive in scope that it his hard to compare to other fantasy series


thx for the advice but I can hardly imagine this being bigger in scope then wot or feists midkemia series. im gonna give it a go now omw to the bookstore!


It's far bigger in scope than WoT at least, haven't read the other series. It really does get to a point it may be excessive, but that depends a lot on individual taste.


turns out my bookstore (the only one in town) doest have gardens of the moon bought rothfuss instead. ordered gardensof the moon online but will apparently take 9 days to arrive :/


gardens of the moon is an odd one. Dont be disheartened when you read it. The book can be confusing because it throws you right into the Malazan world without giving you hundreds of pages of introduction in this huge universe.

Background story is often told through comments characters make on others or certain events and often dont give you the whole explanation. This can be grating if you want to know everything at once but makes it feel so much better when you start to see all the plot points and background story form a coherent picture of the Malazan world.

Follow the characters on their journey and immerse yourself in the world how they see it. You dont have to know everything about Malazan to enjoy these books.

The biggest gem in these books for me is the Pantheon of gods and how they come to power. Malazan has by far the best Gods in any fantasy book I have read so far.
McBengt
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1684 Posts
April 23 2013 14:13 GMT
#396
On April 23 2013 22:07 {ToT}ColmA wrote:
finished return of the crimson guard, very good book, hope the "talian princess" stuff gets some stuff in the next books else it would ve been super pointless to write page after page about it..

besides that its a super fun read and is very close to eriksons work, cant be compared to night of knives which was poorly written and only mildly nice cuz of the background infos.

started to read stonewielder know, kinda sad what happens to iron bars he was kinda cool


Knight of Knives is the weakest in Esslemont's works imo, with Stonewielder being the strongest. He shows improvement consistently and apparently he plans to write up to three more malazan novels.
"My twelve year old will out-reason Bill Maher when it comes to understanding, you know, what, uh, how to logic work" - Rick Santorum
kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
April 23 2013 14:14 GMT
#397
On April 23 2013 23:12 Skilledblob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 22:39 Wonderberg wrote:
On April 23 2013 22:33 SKC wrote:
On April 23 2013 22:04 Wonderberg wrote:
On April 23 2013 21:50 Ketch wrote:
On April 23 2013 21:27 Wonderberg wrote:
since im looking to start a new series, would you guyd reccomend this one when my favourite authors are brandon sanderson/terry goodkind(obv nothing after sot)/robin hobb (not the latest books)/early feist.


These books have everything you can look for in a fantasy, and maybe too much of it , but I really like it. Lots of characters, unexplained events. The unexplained parts can be aggravating, but there are so much gems in these books in conversations/humor/quotes, cool characters, etc

So in combination with the writers you mentioned, I couldn't say for sure, as I feel that Malazan Book of The Fallen is so excessive in scope that it his hard to compare to other fantasy series


thx for the advice but I can hardly imagine this being bigger in scope then wot or feists midkemia series. im gonna give it a go now omw to the bookstore!


It's far bigger in scope than WoT at least, haven't read the other series. It really does get to a point it may be excessive, but that depends a lot on individual taste.


turns out my bookstore (the only one in town) doest have gardens of the moon bought rothfuss instead. ordered gardensof the moon online but will apparently take 9 days to arrive :/


gardens of the moon is an odd one. Dont be disheartened when you read it. The book can be confusing because it throws you right into the Malazan world without giving you hundreds of pages of introduction in this huge universe.

Background story is often told through comments characters make on others or certain events and often dont give you the whole explanation. This can be grating if you want to know everything at once but makes it feel so much better when you start to see all the plot points and background story form a coherent picture of the Malazan world.

Follow the characters on their journey and immerse yourself in the world how they see it. You dont have to know everything about Malazan to enjoy these books.

The biggest gem in these books for me is the Pantheon of gods and how they come to power. Malazan has by far the best Gods in any fantasy book I have read so far.


yeah, don't re-read if you're confused, it will make sense in time!
thOr6136
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Slovenia1775 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-24 09:58:41
April 24 2013 09:57 GMT
#398
Just started 3rd book of the series and man its awesome. 1st book was maybe kinda hard, you get thrown into the world and know nothing of it. Now that i finished 2nd book i feel a bit more comfortable :D

It makes me wanna reread first book tho, i forgot so much stuff already T_T but on the other hand i just want to continue with the series and see how world and characters develop.
Thermia
Profile Joined August 2010
United States866 Posts
April 24 2013 10:16 GMT
#399
It really is an amazing series for rereading, you see so many more connections and causes and links between different events.
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Agnosthar
Profile Joined August 2010
631 Posts
April 25 2013 01:05 GMT
#400
I just finished the first book and despite being unsure if I liked it until past halfway, I ended up loving it. I'm starting the second now, not too impressed with all my favourite characters from book 1 not being present though.
+ Show Spoiler +
Hated that Lorn got killed off though, I liked her more than any of the other characters
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