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On January 15 2013 01:05 Skilledblob wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2013 00:33 Tobberoth wrote:
Started reading the second book... god, this stuff is hard as hell to follow along in. It pretty much puts everything straight into your lap with zero introduction, as if it was meant to be intelligible only on the second readthrough. Half the time I have no idea who I'm reading about, what they are doing, where they are, and why they are suddenly important to the story. It introduces concepts in a way as if meant to confuse you, such as Diver's or whatever, which at first seems like a plural, but then at some point they talk about "a diver's" or whatever, and you slowly start to understand that it's the same thing as a soletaken, only to be left wondering if it's actually something different. It's ridiculously unclear.
The world seems interesting enough and I'm impressed with the level of the writing... I just have a really hard time enjoying it because my reading comprehension is being brought down to ridiculously low levels. Right now, I'm considering either stopping and actually reading the first book first, hoping that it will have some form of introductionary texts, or I will keep reading it, expecting having to reread the first part once I'm done with like half of it. as far as I understand it Soletaken are shapeshifters who shift into a single being. Diver's are also shapeshifters but they can form several beings like a wasp swarm, a group of cougars etc. I think one of the characters hints a bit that Diver's are spliting up their soul in order to be able to form multiple bodies.
this is about right.. and soletaken are generally stronger than d'ivers
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I added this series to the ”To read this when exams and other shit are over”, actually it might take first place. Right now i dont dare to start it cuz it might consume me. Sounds epic, especially this recommendation makes me wonder:
On May 26 2011 19:14 Jumbled wrote:
In fact, I came across this series years ago due to deciding to read A Song of Ice and Fire. I went to a library to pick up Game of Thrones, and picked up another book on impulse because it looked interesting. That book was Gardens of the Moon, and after reading a few pages it was sufficiently engaging that I actually put Game of Thrones aside and finished reading Gardens first.
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I don't know about you guys, but I view Letheri as a modern day america.
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just finished Memories of Ice and it's so depressing T_T
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On January 31 2013 22:32 Skilledblob wrote:
just finished Memories of Ice and it's so depressing T_T
In my opinion, it is the most emotionally compelling book out of the whole series. + Show Spoiler +The moment were Itkovian approached the Tlan Imass, and they all turned their heads at once, gave me the chills. His redemption of the Imass was the most powerful moment for me in all of the books. There were a lot of other great moments as well. When Whiskeyjack's knee buckled as he was fighting Kallor. When the Jaghut Seer was reunited with his sister at the end.
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Memories of Ice also has the criminally underrated bad ass Brukhalian
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finished crippled god etc, after some distance to it i still feel robbed of an ending worth calling it. the crippled god for me is by far the weakest book, it all starts out as a normal erikson book and towards the end he seems to think "shit i gotta finish" and rushes everything and it feels bad to read it. only golden moment of the book was nefarian bredd
started night of knights yesterday, hope esslemont delivers as a writer.
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On February 23 2013 04:37 {ToT}ColmA wrote:
finished crippled god etc, after some distance to it i still feel robbed of an ending worth calling it. the crippled god for me is by far the weakest book, it all starts out as a normal erikson book and towards the end he seems to think "shit i gotta finish" and rushes everything and it feels bad to read it. only golden moment of the book was nefarian bredd
started night of knights yesterday, hope esslemont delivers as a writer.
yeah, i wasn't satisfied with the ending either. Mostly because it lacked a few of my favorite characters, and because it focused so much on Tavore, who I never really liked.
Esslemont's books are fine. Night of Knives is written in a different style, but the rest of his works are pretty similar to Erickson. They cover some interesting material
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So im reading book 2. Loved book 1. But does this get any less grim? Literally wincing at the stuff I'm reading, waiting to be entertained rather than appalled. Almost stopped reading at some points and I'm only 300 some pages in.
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On March 01 2013 11:29 Entertaining wrote:
So im reading book 2. Loved book 1. But does this get any less grim? Literally wincing at the stuff I'm reading, waiting to be entertained rather than appalled. Almost stopped reading at some points and I'm only 300 some pages in.
Not in the least. In fact you could argue it gets much worse. The whole mood, and theme of the series is quite dark and raw.
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On March 01 2013 11:29 Entertaining wrote:
So im reading book 2. Loved book 1. But does this get any less grim? Literally wincing at the stuff I'm reading, waiting to be entertained rather than appalled. Almost stopped reading at some points and I'm only 300 some pages in.
Book 2 is the grimmest of the series, but also the one that I will remember the most. Books 3 and 5 are also fairly grim, but things generally improve after.
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I'm going to give this series a try, based on how interesting the concepts are. I borrowed the first two books, and if it captivates me enough, I'll read the whole series.
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On March 01 2013 11:37 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 11:29 Entertaining wrote:
So im reading book 2. Loved book 1. But does this get any less grim? Literally wincing at the stuff I'm reading, waiting to be entertained rather than appalled. Almost stopped reading at some points and I'm only 300 some pages in. Book 2 is the grimmest of the series, but also the one that I will remember the most. Books 3 and 5 are also fairly grim, but things generally improve after.
I share your sentiments, books 2 and 3 were the grimmest for me. But I don't think it was because the tone of the material changed as the books progressed. I think it was just because I felt less emotionally invested in the characters, and the story, towards the end of the series.
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I've read this entire series.. pretty odd in terms of a magic system, but great books. I liked the Esslemont books as well, haven't read Blood and Bone yet though.
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Just finished The Crippled God. Damn. Really sad to have ended it all. All of the characters were amazing (especially Kruppe, Iskaral Pust, Tehol, Bugg, etc). Definitely the best characters out of any book I've ever read, one of the most amazing magic systems/storylines too. All in all one of the better series i've read in my life, sad to see it end 
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On March 01 2013 14:24 LiamTheZerg wrote:Just finished The Crippled God. Damn. Really sad to have ended it all. All of the characters were amazing (especially Kruppe, Iskaral Pust, Tehol, Bugg, etc). Definitely the best characters out of any book I've ever read, one of the most amazing magic systems/storylines too. All in all one of the better series i've read in my life, sad to see it end
I actually thought the magic system was a bit.. magic.  I much prefer Sanderson's and Rothfuss' magic systems, but Malazan is a beast of it's own and does other things far better.
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On March 01 2013 14:24 LiamTheZerg wrote:Just finished The Crippled God. Damn. Really sad to have ended it all. All of the characters were amazing (especially Kruppe, Iskaral Pust, Tehol, Bugg, etc). Definitely the best characters out of any book I've ever read, one of the most amazing magic systems/storylines too. All in all one of the better series i've read in my life, sad to see it end
Funny how the four characters you mentioned are some of the most chatty/irritating of the series. I much prefer Karsa, Anomander, Gruntle and Tool. A lot of the Malazans/Letherii tend to blur together. Just finished Midnight Tides and the quality is really starting to drop since the first 3 and a half.
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Yea I noticed that too  Loved the first 4 or so books, but I put down whichever one I'm on now and I haven't lifted it since. Can't remember which though, it's in the attic somewhere - Wheel of Time seems way better.
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I'm about to start Blood and Bone.. I recognized like 3 names from the character list. It's typical of this series but I clearly keep coming back.
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Anyone read Forge of Darkness and waiting for Fall of Light?
I can't quite remember exactly how I felt about reading Forge but I seem to remember really looking forward to the next one. Will probably have to do a re-read at some point.
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