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Orval
Profile Joined February 2012
Norway236 Posts
January 08 2013 20:08 GMT
#341
On January 09 2013 04:28 LaSt)ChAnCe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 04:17 Orval wrote:
Been slogging through this series for a while now, didn't really even like the books until I was done with a few of them, but I commute by train so I needed something. Still don't think it's the most incredible thing, about 3/4 done with book 9 now. The series has got it's moments of absolute brilliance, but there is sooooo much in between that I really don't care about. Kinda looking forward to finishing and moving on to something else tbh. Not that I don't enjoy it, just a bit tired of it.

I know a lot of the storylines won't be tied up, but there are a few I will literally punch someone if isn't resolved.

Kruppe best character btw.

wait til you get to tehol and bugg


I've read a lot of Tehol and Bugg (soon done with book 9), definitely some of the highlights of the series. Also Shurq, cause she likes to sex.
LaSt)ChAnCe
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States2179 Posts
January 09 2013 17:55 GMT
#342
On January 09 2013 05:08 Orval wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 04:28 LaSt)ChAnCe wrote:
On January 09 2013 04:17 Orval wrote:
Been slogging through this series for a while now, didn't really even like the books until I was done with a few of them, but I commute by train so I needed something. Still don't think it's the most incredible thing, about 3/4 done with book 9 now. The series has got it's moments of absolute brilliance, but there is sooooo much in between that I really don't care about. Kinda looking forward to finishing and moving on to something else tbh. Not that I don't enjoy it, just a bit tired of it.

I know a lot of the storylines won't be tied up, but there are a few I will literally punch someone if isn't resolved.

Kruppe best character btw.

wait til you get to tehol and bugg


I've read a lot of Tehol and Bugg (soon done with book 9), definitely some of the highlights of the series. Also Shurq, cause she likes to sex.

ahh misread what you said, thought you said you were just done with the first few
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
January 12 2013 18:34 GMT
#343
finished dod, pretty good, not very awesome but good, thought it would be worse as many people seem to not ve liked it. only thing that was kinda stupid was the whole white face barghast stuff O.o and the shield anvil is kinda retarded <:
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Dujek
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United Kingdom276 Posts
January 12 2013 20:06 GMT
#344
On January 13 2013 03:34 {ToT}ColmA wrote:
finished dod, pretty good, not very awesome but good, thought it would be worse as many people seem to not ve liked it. only thing that was kinda stupid was the whole white face barghast stuff O.o and the shield anvil is kinda retarded <:


I liked Dust of Dreams a lot, probably my 2nd or 3rd favourite in the series. I just finished The Crippled God yesterday. It was a satisfying end to the series but no where near my favourite.
antelope591
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada820 Posts
January 13 2013 00:01 GMT
#345
After reading the whole series my ratings would prolly go:
1) Memories of Ice
2) Deadhouse Gates
3) Midnight Tides
4) Reaper's Gale
5) House of Chains
6) Bonehunters
7) Crippled God
8) Gardens of the Moon (its been a long time since I read it will prolly be a lot better on re-read now that I know wtf is going on)
9) Dust of Dreams
10) Toll of the Hounds (only book of the series I really didn't enjoy too much)


Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4727 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-13 00:35:13
January 13 2013 00:27 GMT
#346
I couldn't really rank all the books, but Memories of Ice was probably the most enjoyable. Just epic story telling with so many great characters. I struggled some with House of Chains, but mostly because of the introduction of Karsa, which I didn't enjoy much (so basically the first 200ish pages). I was also waiting for Icarium all the time, and then he only got one short unsatisfying scene, which made me a little mad.
+ Show Spoiler +
Icarium needs some more love in a later book anyway. Always described as THE unstoppable force once unleashed, he gets beaten unconscious thrice (Mappo, Karsa, Dejim Nebrahl), additionally shackled for one whole book, and once stopped by the Eres'al. And the sky fortress battle in DoD felt a little bit silly to me, even within the Malazan universe. The character is one neverending tease.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Agnosthar
Profile Joined August 2010
631 Posts
January 13 2013 01:32 GMT
#347
I'm halfway through the first book and I'm literally struggling to find the motivation to continue. I really want to like this series, and if I carry on I'm probably going to like it.

I just saw the first post recommending starting with book 2. My question to you guys is whether it's worth finishing book 1 now? Also, I kinda got the first part of the book, but since the story moved into Darujhistan, I don't have the faintest idea what is going on. The dream segments aren't making sense to me, I don't even know who the guy dreaming is, and there are so many characters I don't know who is who anymore.
Admittedly I have taken quite a few long breaks in between reading sessions of this book, but is it normal to be this baffled at this point in the book?

Thanks
Nisyax
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Netherlands756 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-13 09:34:18
January 13 2013 09:30 GMT
#348
On January 13 2013 10:32 Agnosthar wrote:
I'm halfway through the first book and I'm literally struggling to find the motivation to continue. I really want to like this series, and if I carry on I'm probably going to like it.

I just saw the first post recommending starting with book 2. My question to you guys is whether it's worth finishing book 1 now? Also, I kinda got the first part of the book, but since the story moved into Darujhistan, I don't have the faintest idea what is going on. The dream segments aren't making sense to me, I don't even know who the guy dreaming is, and there are so many characters I don't know who is who anymore.
Admittedly I have taken quite a few long breaks in between reading sessions of this book, but is it normal to be this baffled at this point in the book?

Thanks


Firstly, the guy dreaming refers to himself (as in talking(thinking) in third person, as in saying his full name, as is relevant for the books) constantly in the dreaming segments.
Secondly, yes I can imagine some confusion over who is who, I kept messing up Rallick and Murillo sometimes. There is this 'dramatis personae' which might give you a clue on who is who again. Best thing is to read more consistent though. Being the first book and written around 10 years before the rest of the series, the quality could be considered a slightly lower standard.
Finally, it's your choice if you want to start with book 2. It has a lot of different and new characters, but is a new story in itself. It would also spoil a great amount on the faiths of characters from book 1. but maybe that might help you focus on those characters as far as they appear in book 2.
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
January 13 2013 16:08 GMT
#349
i would never start with the second book, its just silly -_-
The only virgins in kpop left are the fans
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
January 13 2013 16:12 GMT
#350
The first book also gets better towards the end in my opinion, so I don't really think it makes sense to start at book 2. I wouldn't recommend it even if you were brand new to it though.
sperY
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Serbia444 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-13 16:14:28
January 13 2013 16:14 GMT
#351
I just want to thank you guys for getting me into this series. I've seed the thread few times like 1 and a half year ago and started to look for translated version in Serbia. Finally found it and had enough money to get it. No regrets.
In last few nights I've managed to read almost whole Gardens of the Moon.

I think this is my favorite book so far!
Ziken
Profile Joined August 2010
Ghana1743 Posts
January 13 2013 16:28 GMT
#352
Just popped by to say, I finished midnight tides about a month ago, <3 Tehol and Bugg. Some of the most interesting characters I've read about in a while. Especially love Tehol's somewhat cynical attitude and just the interaction between the two characters, GOLD :D
Every misfortune is a blessing in disguise.
itkovian
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1763 Posts
January 13 2013 17:29 GMT
#353
On January 13 2013 09:01 antelope591 wrote:
After reading the whole series my ratings would prolly go:
1) Memories of Ice
2) Deadhouse Gates
3) Midnight Tides
4) Reaper's Gale
5) House of Chains
6) Bonehunters
7) Crippled God
8) Gardens of the Moon (its been a long time since I read it will prolly be a lot better on re-read now that I know wtf is going on)
9) Dust of Dreams
10) Toll of the Hounds (only book of the series I really didn't enjoy too much)




Thats pretty dang close to how I'd rank them. But I'd bump Gardens of the Moon up above to below Reaper's Gale and Toll the Hounds above Crippled God. And maybe swap House of Chains and Reaper's Gale.

so,
MoI
DG
MT
GotM
HoC
RG
Bh
TtH
CG
DoD
=)=
adiga
Profile Joined July 2011
495 Posts
January 14 2013 14:30 GMT
#354
Last night I finished reading GotM at last!
After a bumpy start while I started and stoped reading it two times, I finally got the courage month ago and restarted reading it.
I loved it!
Even though at the begging of the book it's hard to get what's going on but while the book progressed I started to understand it more and more and by the 2/3 of the book I had a clear knowlage of which charcter was what and what's going on. So I'll defiantly recommend to those who have trouble to keep reading it. Just read it consistantly.
The ending was really great.
The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time is now.
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
January 14 2013 14:39 GMT
#355
after Apsalar tells Fidler in Deadhouse Gates about Shadowthrone and The Rope I was like WTF now everything from Gardens of the Moon makes sense :D
Andre
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Slovenia3523 Posts
January 14 2013 14:58 GMT
#356
^Yea I agree, but I think that's already implied in the first book in one of the opening chapters when there's a certain song.
You must gather your party before venturing forth.
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-14 15:36:39
January 14 2013 15:33 GMT
#357
Started reading the second book... god, this stuff is hard as hell to follow along in. It pretty much puts everything straight into your lap with zero introduction, as if it was meant to be intelligible only on the second readthrough. Half the time I have no idea who I'm reading about, what they are doing, where they are, and why they are suddenly important to the story. It introduces concepts in a way as if meant to confuse you, such as Diver's or whatever, which at first seems like a plural, but then at some point they talk about "a diver's" or whatever, and you slowly start to understand that it's the same thing as a soletaken, only to be left wondering if it's actually something different. It's ridiculously unclear.

The world seems interesting enough and I'm impressed with the level of the writing... I just have a really hard time enjoying it because my reading comprehension is being brought down to ridiculously low levels. Right now, I'm considering either stopping and actually reading the first book first, hoping that it will have some form of introductionary texts, or I will keep reading it, expecting having to reread the first part once I'm done with like half of it.
schaf
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1326 Posts
January 14 2013 15:37 GMT
#358
On January 13 2013 10:32 Agnosthar wrote:
I'm halfway through the first book and I'm literally struggling to find the motivation to continue. I really want to like this series, and if I carry on I'm probably going to like it.

I just saw the first post recommending starting with book 2. My question to you guys is whether it's worth finishing book 1 now? Also, I kinda got the first part of the book, but since the story moved into Darujhistan, I don't have the faintest idea what is going on. The dream segments aren't making sense to me, I don't even know who the guy dreaming is, and there are so many characters I don't know who is who anymore.
Admittedly I have taken quite a few long breaks in between reading sessions of this book, but is it normal to be this baffled at this point in the book?

Thanks


Haha don't worry, I'm in the 8th book and still have to look up the who is who and sometimes even then I don't get it because my name memory is approximately spaced for just 6 words.
Axiom wins more than it loses. Most viewers don't. - <3 TB
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
January 14 2013 15:49 GMT
#359
On January 15 2013 00:33 Tobberoth wrote:
Started reading the second book... god, this stuff is hard as hell to follow along in. It pretty much puts everything straight into your lap with zero introduction, as if it was meant to be intelligible only on the second readthrough. Half the time I have no idea who I'm reading about, what they are doing, where they are, and why they are suddenly important to the story. It introduces concepts in a way as if meant to confuse you, such as Diver's or whatever, which at first seems like a plural, but then at some point they talk about "a diver's" or whatever, and you slowly start to understand that it's the same thing as a soletaken, only to be left wondering if it's actually something different. It's ridiculously unclear.

The world seems interesting enough and I'm impressed with the level of the writing... I just have a really hard time enjoying it because my reading comprehension is being brought down to ridiculously low levels. Right now, I'm considering either stopping and actually reading the first book first, hoping that it will have some form of introductionary texts, or I will keep reading it, expecting having to reread the first part once I'm done with like half of it.


There is no introductionary texts to be honest, but from what I remember some concepts (like Divers) are introduced only in the second book anyway, so it wouldn't really make such a diference.

This is why I don't really think starting at the second book is any better, it will be confusing anyway. There will still be concepts you won't fully understand at first, but the first couple of books are probally the hardest step.
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
January 14 2013 16:05 GMT
#360
On January 15 2013 00:33 Tobberoth wrote:
Started reading the second book... god, this stuff is hard as hell to follow along in. It pretty much puts everything straight into your lap with zero introduction, as if it was meant to be intelligible only on the second readthrough. Half the time I have no idea who I'm reading about, what they are doing, where they are, and why they are suddenly important to the story. It introduces concepts in a way as if meant to confuse you, such as Diver's or whatever, which at first seems like a plural, but then at some point they talk about "a diver's" or whatever, and you slowly start to understand that it's the same thing as a soletaken, only to be left wondering if it's actually something different. It's ridiculously unclear.

The world seems interesting enough and I'm impressed with the level of the writing... I just have a really hard time enjoying it because my reading comprehension is being brought down to ridiculously low levels. Right now, I'm considering either stopping and actually reading the first book first, hoping that it will have some form of introductionary texts, or I will keep reading it, expecting having to reread the first part once I'm done with like half of it.


as far as I understand it Soletaken are shapeshifters who shift into a single being. Diver's are also shapeshifters but they can form several beings like a wasp swarm, a group of cougars etc. I think one of the characters hints a bit that Diver's are spliting up their soul in order to be able to form multiple bodies.
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