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On April 11 2013 05:27 Doublemint wrote:
lol why are people already so obsessed how Shae is gonna get killed when extremely relevant stuff is happening quite a bit earlier? (at least in the books that is). Joffrey's demise, the trial by battle with one of the coolest characters - Oberyn Martel who fights the mountain.
Will Tyrion ride a pig?!?!?!?
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On April 11 2013 20:47 DMKraft wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2013 05:27 Doublemint wrote:
lol why are people already so obsessed how Shae is gonna get killed when extremely relevant stuff is happening quite a bit earlier? (at least in the books that is). Joffrey's demise, the trial by battle with one of the coolest characters - Oberyn Martel who fights the mountain. Will Tyrion ride a pig?!?!?!?
That's the spirit! :D
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On April 11 2013 19:51 moktira wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2013 19:37 crow_mw wrote:On April 11 2013 07:00 moktira wrote:
I don't buy the Sailor's wife being Tysha (...) but also Tysha was not actually a whore. The Sailor's Wife only bedds men who married her could be a cruel parallel of her relation with Tyrion. Only sharing bed with her married husband, but still being (perceived as) a whore. I don't like this theory regardless, but this one aspect actually fits quite well. But she didn't only have sex with people she married, she didn't marry any of Tywin's guards and was paid for each, though I guess she did not have the option there. (...)
And exactly after this experience she decided to never again have sex with a man she has not married.
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On April 11 2013 20:21 TigerKarl wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2013 05:08 c0ldfusion wrote:On April 11 2013 05:03 TigerKarl wrote:
especially considering what role Tysha and her daughter are likely to play in the forthcoming books. source? smartness
I want to agree with the others here that it's extremely unlikely for Tysha to be the Sailor's Wife (or are you referring to a different theory?) For one thing, Lanna would be the very _last_ name she'd have picked for her daughter if that were the case.
Also, this being GRRM and all, it would be too fairy tale an ending for Tysha to be revealed in a major way whether she's Sailor's Wife or any other character we've read up to this point. We'll see - but I think you're in the minority good sir.
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On April 11 2013 20:44 zatic wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2013 21:48 Adron wrote:
btw, isnt it gutwrencing to read all the posts in the unspoilered thread from all those hopeful people? Much, much worse are the assholes who have read the books and "guess" the correct story out of pure vanity.
Yeah, this is pretty bad. It's kinda fun to discuss it with non book readers though, question their theories an hear their explanations, pretty elaborate theories in some cases. Most of the time they are way too hopefull however but i guess that will change after the red wedding, then people will finally realise there is no point in getting attached to any character ever as anyone could be killed at a whim. God i must´ve reread the part where Catlyn starts being suspicious about 5 times to be absolutely sure what i was reading, almost like i was in denial of it happening.
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haha, yeah... I already feel sorry for the TV crowd.
ned's death was a terrible blow, but the red wedding is the ultimate killer of hopes and dreams and will make you GRRM's bitch whether you like it or not ^_^
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On April 11 2013 20:44 zatic wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2013 21:48 Adron wrote:
btw, isnt it gutwrencing to read all the posts in the unspoilered thread from all those hopeful people? Much, much worse are the assholes who have read the books and "guess" the correct story out of pure vanity.
I think there are also book readers purposefully "coming up" with outrageous theories in that thread either baiting to be corrected or intentionally mislead non-readers. The best strategy is to completely ignore any predictions in that thread. Just keep the discussion to the immediate aspects of the show. There's plenty to discuss in terms of the acting, pacing, etc.
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On April 11 2013 21:51 c0ldfusion wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2013 20:44 zatic wrote:On April 10 2013 21:48 Adron wrote:
btw, isnt it gutwrencing to read all the posts in the unspoilered thread from all those hopeful people? Much, much worse are the assholes who have read the books and "guess" the correct story out of pure vanity. I think there are also book readers purposefully "coming up" with outrageous theories in that thread either baiting to be corrected or intentionally mislead non-readers. The best strategy is to completely ignore any predictions in that thread. Just keep the discussion to the immediate aspects of the show. There's plenty to discuss in terms of the acting, pacing, etc.
Almost done re-reading A Clash of Kings and I feel like there is a huge twist coming re: Ned's execution. When Tyrion asks Varys who ordered Ned to be killed, Varys asks him if he's thought about the riddle (who will the sellsword obey, the king, the high priest, or the rich man, when each commands him to kill the two others). Varys asks Tyrion who really thinks was responsible for Ned Stark's death: Joffrey, Ilyn Payne, Janos Slynt... "or another?" Tyrion never answers and it is never brought up again. Was Varys saying that he was the one actually behind it? Littlefinger? Who?
Even though so much has happened since, I think that the whole story behind why Ned was executed hasn't been told and that untold part is going to play a big part in the final book. And I also think it may have nothing to do with Jon Snow's parentage, although it most likely does.
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i just finished the third book and im a little scared to go in this thread because i hate to read stuff i already know. book 1 was a pain in the ass to read after watching the tv show. So the tv show chased me a little bit to finish the book because i didnt want the show to catch up to me. but i really got hooked in the end. The first half of the book is really slow though and the second half really stacked with events. Im not sure where to end this season. Maybe at the red wedding? but that would discourage a lot of people to keep watching and wouldnt be a good cliffhanger.
I was already looking at the table of contents and the maps of book 4 and it seems very cersei and jamie focused. No chapter about Bran, Tyrion or Daenarys... its a pity that those storylines dont seem to be picked up in book 4 or even gonna end somewhere.
It was funny to me when someone said in the other thread there were so many unnessecary sex scenes... i feel the book has way more and they skipped a lot of those segments :D
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It was funny to me when someone said in the other thread there were so many unnessecary sex scenes... i feel the book has way more and they skipped a lot of those segments :D
I agree there's a little bit too much Tyrion banging Shae going on in the books, yes Mr. Martin we get already it Tyrion is looking for love in all the wrong places...
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The difference is the average sex scene in the book is a page or two, usually less. While the average tv sex scene is 2-3 minutes. Which isn't an incredibly long period of time until you realize that they cover the average chapter of material in 3-5 minutes. So a 2-3 minute sex scene becomes equivalent in screen time to if Martin had spent an entire chapter on a sex scene.
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i just want to see the reactions of the RW in youtube :3
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On April 11 2013 22:27 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
I was already looking at the table of contents and the maps of book 4 and it seems very cersei and jamie focused. No chapter about Bran, Tyrion or Daenarys... its a pity that those storylines dont seem to be picked up in book 4 or even gonna end somewhere.
At this point Martin decided, that there is a lot going on at the same time and he needs to do a big split. Fourth and most of the fifth tome cover the same period of time, but focus on different regions. Feast of Crows is focused mostly on the Seven Kingdoms, hence the lack of characters that are initially further away, such as Bran, Tyrion and Danny. Worry not - big chunk of the Dance with Dragons is dedicated to those characters.
Having said that, get out of this thread. There are some interesting plot twists still ahead and it is not worth it to get them spoiled.
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On April 11 2013 22:56 Topin wrote:
i just want to see the reactions of the RW in youtube :3
My friend prepared a hidden camera in prep for when our non-book reading GoT friends come over for THAT episode. We also did some other thing with umadbro shirt.
Even the show runners say that this season -- and that scene/episode in particular is what they were really hoping they'd be able to do before they even started the show. So for that reason, I'd imagine the scene will be really brutal. It'll be the 2nd time Cat is assassinated 'cuz you know they killed her character so badly in EP2 of this season -_-.
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On April 11 2013 05:38 ecstazy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2013 05:27 Doublemint wrote:
lol why are people already so obsessed how Shae is gonna get killed when extremely relevant stuff is happening quite a bit earlier? (at least in the books that is). Joffrey's demise, the trial by battle with one of the coolest characters - Oberyn Martel who fights the mountain. Because Shae is getting too much screen time in the show and is clearly portrayed as a good/caring character who is unlikely to betray Tyrion and who even cares about Sansa. Most book readers myself included do not like that and are worried about the potential changes to her death that was so amazingly portrayed in the book.
Well, to be fair I had thought she was loyal to Tyrion in the book and was damn surprised when he turned up in bed with Papa Lannister of all people. And to be fair... would she really have any choice in the matter? Not like she could refuse Lord Lannister.
Was Catelyn's little monologue about John Snow getting the pox and her praying for him to survive in the book as well? I probably just forgot about it but that part I found interesting in ep. 2.
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On April 13 2013 11:36 Jonoman92 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2013 05:38 ecstazy wrote:On April 11 2013 05:27 Doublemint wrote:
lol why are people already so obsessed how Shae is gonna get killed when extremely relevant stuff is happening quite a bit earlier? (at least in the books that is). Joffrey's demise, the trial by battle with one of the coolest characters - Oberyn Martel who fights the mountain. Because Shae is getting too much screen time in the show and is clearly portrayed as a good/caring character who is unlikely to betray Tyrion and who even cares about Sansa. Most book readers myself included do not like that and are worried about the potential changes to her death that was so amazingly portrayed in the book. Well, to be fair I had thought she was loyal to Tyrion in the book and was damn surprised when he turned up in bed with Papa Lannister of all people. And to be fair... would she really have any choice in the matter? Not like she could refuse Lord Lannister. Was Catelyn's little monologue about John Snow getting the pox and her praying for him to survive in the book as well? I probably just forgot about it but that part I found interesting in ep. 2.
I'm fairly sure the pox monologue wasn't in the books, especially since Cat didn't really speak to Jeyne Westerling much, if at all.
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Ned was the most beloved character and much more sympathetic than Catelyn and Robb. People won't be as outraged, hell I enjoyed it when Catelyn died, couldn't stand her and she was pretty much the cause of all the Starks' problems.
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Anyone else out there think Joffrey's going to get it in episode 10? I think they're building up Lady Olenna a lot from the beginning, so much that they couldn't offset Joffrey's demise to Season 4, Episode 1 without making Olenna look like a red herring. Her character disappears from the story immediately afterwards.
They've also already written in Littlefinger's plot, minus Ser Dontos.
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On April 13 2013 12:00 hai2u wrote:
Ned was the most beloved character and much more sympathetic than Catelyn and Robb. People won't be as outraged, hell I enjoyed it when Catelyn died, couldn't stand her and she was pretty much the cause of all the Starks' problems.
Well, her and Joffrey/Cersei at any rate.
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On April 13 2013 12:00 hai2u wrote:
Ned was the most beloved character and much more sympathetic than Catelyn and Robb. People won't be as outraged, hell I enjoyed it when Catelyn died, couldn't stand her and she was pretty much the cause of all the Starks' problems.
How on earth is Catelyn the cause of all the Starks' problems...? She's one of the best diplomatic minds and level headed people in the entire ASOIAF universe. The only reason it never works is because she's surrounded by retarded men.
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