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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
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Gentso
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2218 Posts
June 04 2012 17:22 GMT
#2921
On June 05 2012 02:15 Conti wrote:
This just hit me.. They completely changed the House of the Undying. And I'm perfectly fine with that, I have no idea how they could've faithfully adapted what was in the books. And we know that the HotU scenes in the books predicted some pretty big events..

So.. are there any hidden predictions in the HotU scenes from the show, too? About things that didn't even happen yet in the books? Think about it. The throne room in King's Landing, utterly destroyed, snow falling everywhere.. What if that really happens? Winter is only just beginning in the books, and it's entirely possible that the dragons will (finally) be involved with stuff happening in Westeros. And it's entirely possible that they attack King's Landing, destroying half the city..
How awesome would it be if there's some hidden meanings behind those scenes?


I think so. Personally, I feel as though the snow in the throne room means either two things. 1) A stark (or John Snow) eventually sits the Iron Throne, or 2) winter (with or without white walkers) overcomes the ream entirely. As for Dany, I predict that the vision foreshadows her destiny outside of the wall. Seems to me that she dies beyond the wall, and the hut with Drogo and her kid symbolizes her resting in peace.
scudst0rm
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1149 Posts
June 04 2012 17:22 GMT
#2922
On June 05 2012 02:15 Conti wrote:
This just hit me.. They completely changed the House of the Undying. And I'm perfectly fine with that, I have no idea how they could've faithfully adapted what was in the books. And we know that the HotU scenes in the books predicted some pretty big events..

So.. are there any hidden predictions in the HotU scenes from the show, too? About things that didn't even happen yet in the books? Think about it. The throne room in King's Landing, utterly destroyed, snow falling everywhere.. What if that really happens? Winter is only just beginning in the books, and it's entirely possible that the dragons will (finally) be involved with stuff happening in Westeros. And it's entirely possible that they attack King's Landing, destroying half the city..
How awesome would it be if there's some hidden meanings behind those scenes?


I agree, I don't know how they could have adapted the HotU scene exactly as it was in the books without over-forshadowing (almost giving stuff away like the red wedding). There were a lot more dream sequences and strong imagery in the book so I didn't put too much weight on the stuff in the HotU. But the series has been much more "realistic" in that regard so anything they show would really stand out.

I've heard a bit of speculation on the throne room scene. Most people just take it as a general "winter is coming". However, one of my favorite interpretations is "Snow on the throne" :D
You're like a one ranger army comin' at me...
ionlyplayPROtoss
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada573 Posts
June 04 2012 17:27 GMT
#2923
Ok, assuming season 3 is 1/2 of ASoS, I say season finally is red wedding.
scudst0rm
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1149 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-04 18:20:28
June 04 2012 17:31 GMT
#2924
On June 05 2012 02:27 ionlyplayPROtoss wrote:
Ok, assuming season 3 is 1/2 of ASoS, I say season finally is red wedding.


I think RW is def going to be in season 3. I would even bet that Jofferys wedding will be the finale because if they end the season with Robb/Cat dead and Joffery alive I think a lot of people will stop watching the show.
You're like a one ranger army comin' at me...
Ficetool
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany165 Posts
June 04 2012 18:00 GMT
#2925
On June 05 2012 02:31 scudst0rm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2012 02:27 ionlyplayPROtoss wrote:
Ok, assuming season 3 is 1/2 of ASoS, I say season finally is red wedding.


I think RW is def going to be in season 3. I would even bet that Jofferys wedding will be the finale because if they end the season with Jon/Cat dead and Joffery alive I think a lot of people will stop watching the show.


I assume you mean Rob, don't you?
scudst0rm
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1149 Posts
June 04 2012 18:20 GMT
#2926
On June 05 2012 03:00 Ficetool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2012 02:31 scudst0rm wrote:
On June 05 2012 02:27 ionlyplayPROtoss wrote:
Ok, assuming season 3 is 1/2 of ASoS, I say season finally is red wedding.


I think RW is def going to be in season 3. I would even bet that Jofferys wedding will be the finale because if they end the season with Jon/Cat dead and Joffery alive I think a lot of people will stop watching the show.


I assume you mean Rob, don't you?


Indeed
You're like a one ranger army comin' at me...
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
June 04 2012 18:22 GMT
#2927
I want to read every post in this thread but I'm just at book #2. Tried peeking a little yesterday and got spoiled that Catelyn & Robb die (!!!). Looking forward to read how you guys react to the series (:
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
June 04 2012 18:59 GMT
#2928
On June 05 2012 03:22 Emon_ wrote:
I want to read every post in this thread but I'm just at book #2. Tried peeking a little yesterday and got spoiled that Catelyn & Robb die (!!!). Looking forward to read how you guys react to the series (:

oh my you fool.... why would you do that to yourself
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FreezerJumps
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada653 Posts
June 04 2012 19:04 GMT
#2929
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it really looked like Stannis was captured at the end of episode 9, and then suddenly he's back on Dragonstone? Did I miss something?
Razvy
Profile Joined January 2011
United States132 Posts
June 04 2012 19:07 GMT
#2930
On June 05 2012 04:04 FreezerJumps wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it really looked like Stannis was captured at the end of episode 9, and then suddenly he's back on Dragonstone? Did I miss something?


He was being dragged back by his own men after the battle had been clearly lost.
Any technology, sufficiently advanced, is indistinguishable from magic.
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
June 04 2012 19:10 GMT
#2931
On June 04 2012 23:59 mmp wrote:
Dany's ending in Qarth was a little confusing (her kalisar shows up out of nowhere? how much of Qarth was an illusion? what happened to the guards defending Qarth? why was Doreah in bed with Xaro???), but it achieved closure.
Theon's speech was awesome. Fitting conclusion.
Jaqen was awesome. ``After all the things you've seen, this is your question?''
Brienne's absolutely badass.
Tyrion+Shae romance is preferable to GRRM's hand at romance.
Drogo is still the boss.
Jon's story has finally reached the awesome zone.

I think Ramin Diawadi's pulling the most weight. Awesome soundtrack when applied to the right scenes.



Definitely worth noting; he stepped it up this season. Last season I felt the soundtrack could have improved and relied too much on a few themes.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
FreezerJumps
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada653 Posts
June 04 2012 19:11 GMT
#2932
On June 05 2012 04:07 Razvy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2012 04:04 FreezerJumps wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it really looked like Stannis was captured at the end of episode 9, and then suddenly he's back on Dragonstone? Did I miss something?


He was being dragged back by his own men after the battle had been clearly lost.


Even if that's the case, he's now on a wall with Tywin and the Tyrells between him and his ships. It seems ridiculous that he would escape that.
GDbushido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States926 Posts
June 04 2012 19:17 GMT
#2933
everything about this story is ridiculous, thats why its called fantasy.
remember not to think too much and your trip will be numbingly pleasant
Microchaton
Profile Joined March 2011
France342 Posts
June 04 2012 19:42 GMT
#2934
You couldn't see the positions clearly enough to say that actually. Armies are a lot bigger than they seem here, and there was a lot of Stannis' army still alive. People don't realize that during most actual battles, especially before the 20th century, the VAST majority of both forces are still alive after the battle is done, the losers having retreated, fled, or being taken prisonners. It's not like Stannis was the only guy alive with 50 chaps.
Stormy
Telenil
Profile Joined September 2010
France484 Posts
June 04 2012 19:49 GMT
#2935
I really dislike the ending with Sam alone in the snow in the middle of the giant wight army. The wights themselves are really good, but how can Sam be realisticly alive after that? In the books, the white walkers killed everyone on sight, no useless gloating, no "I could do it now but I won't yet". The only way it can be solved is the entire wight army will walk past him, with a single Other staying to finish him off, and Sam will conveniently kill him with the dragonglass dagger. As much as I like the way the Night Watch is shown in the series, that just feels... lame.
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Flik
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada256 Posts
June 04 2012 19:49 GMT
#2936
What do you guys think Stannis seen in the flame?

Do you think he seen the white walkers or the wildling host? I have no idea otherwise.
I know in the book he didn't know about what was happening at the wall until the wildling attack.

Thinking of Stannis... why didn't they have a Davos scene? I guess all the TV viewers just assume he's dead now. I guess they can do that scene in season 3.
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
June 04 2012 20:02 GMT
#2937
On June 05 2012 04:49 Flik wrote:
What do you guys think Stannis seen in the flame?

Do you think he seen the white walkers or the wildling host? I have no idea otherwise.
I know in the book he didn't know about what was happening at the wall until the wildling attack.

Thinking of Stannis... why didn't they have a Davos scene? I guess all the TV viewers just assume he's dead now. I guess they can do that scene in season 3.


For all we know he is dead in the TV show now. With them changing how the Bran/Rickon stories are going (they are leaving Winterfell together) it may be that Davos is gone for good.
Maginor
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway505 Posts
June 04 2012 20:03 GMT
#2938
On June 05 2012 04:49 Telenil wrote:
I really dislike the ending with Sam alone in the snow in the middle of the giant wight army. The wights themselves are really good, but how can Sam be realisticly alive after that? In the books, the white walkers killed everyone on sight, no useless gloating, no "I could do it now but I won't yet". The only way it can be solved is the entire wight army will walk past him, with a single Other staying to finish him off, and Sam will conveniently kill him with the dragonglass dagger. As much as I like the way the Night Watch is shown in the series, that just feels... lame.


They did let one of the nights watch guys in the prologue live (both in the book and on the show), so it is not without precedence.
Mercy13
Profile Joined January 2011
United States718 Posts
June 04 2012 20:05 GMT
#2939
On June 05 2012 05:02 ZasZ. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2012 04:49 Flik wrote:
What do you guys think Stannis seen in the flame?

Do you think he seen the white walkers or the wildling host? I have no idea otherwise.
I know in the book he didn't know about what was happening at the wall until the wildling attack.

Thinking of Stannis... why didn't they have a Davos scene? I guess all the TV viewers just assume he's dead now. I guess they can do that scene in season 3.


For all we know he is dead in the TV show now. With them changing how the Bran/Rickon stories are going (they are leaving Winterfell together) it may be that Davos is gone for good.


Also, not finding out he is alive until next season would be consistent with the books. If I remember correctly, the first time we know he is alive is during his first chapter in aSoS when he is stranded on the rock.
antelope591
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada820 Posts
June 04 2012 20:12 GMT
#2940
On June 05 2012 05:02 ZasZ. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2012 04:49 Flik wrote:
What do you guys think Stannis seen in the flame?

Do you think he seen the white walkers or the wildling host? I have no idea otherwise.
I know in the book he didn't know about what was happening at the wall until the wildling attack.

Thinking of Stannis... why didn't they have a Davos scene? I guess all the TV viewers just assume he's dead now. I guess they can do that scene in season 3.


For all we know he is dead in the TV show now. With them changing how the Bran/Rickon stories are going (they are leaving Winterfell together) it may be that Davos is gone for good.


Davos isnt dead lol...hes a pov and one of the main characters in all the books. Theres no way they killed him off.
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