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On November 18 2011 05:15 Ramble wrote:SPOILER ALERT. POTENTIAL TV SHOW SPOILERS FROM EPISODE 7+ Show Spoiler +Any thoughts?
+ Show Spoiler +Well, I guess that wraps that one up. Hard to tell with low quality pic but it looks like she has a bite on her shoulder or something?
Anyway, T-Shirts match so its obviously her. She doesn't look too healthy...
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On November 21 2011 22:11 O3 wrote:
Anyone notice that Glen's shirt was totally clean despite hammering down on the walker's head? There's no splatter on his clothes.
Yep. I also watched Dexter right before it (if you don't watch Dexter, he's is a blood spatter analyst) so I just thought what he would say XD
Also, I don't have a kid, but no way in Hell would I let him fire a weapon at that age. How old is that kid? Like 10? And I love how his mom takes a whole sentence to be convinced. I don't give a shit if he's in a zombie apocalypse, if he wants to stay safe he needs to get behind me and shut up.
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Ehm, why are they shooting around unnecessarily like that in the woods? Doesn't walkers react to loud noises as gun sound? So they are not just wasting ammo (something they doesn't seem to lack at all...) but they are also putting themself in danger by giving away their location and they may have to waste even more ammo on walkers because they waste ammo on bottles, nice. And why are Andrea walking down the road by herself in a fucking zombie apocalypse like that? Who would do that?
Things like this just kills the atmosphere. And here I was hoping for a nice twist with the barn to get them on the road again but nah that was to much to hope for. Maybe next episode?
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the ending for me was so anti climatic..
when it ended, i thought it was a commercial break.. but no.. that was it..
i was like huh..? lol..
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On November 22 2011 04:36 Gosi wrote:
Ehm, why are they shooting around unnecessarily like that in the woods? Doesn't walkers react to loud noises as gun sound? So they are not just wasting ammo (something they doesn't seem to lack at all...) but they are also putting themself in danger by giving away their location and they may have to waste even more ammo on walkers because they waste ammo on bottles, nice.
Thank you, I was waiting for someone else to acknowledge it. Really bugged me when I saw it, noticed it right away.
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I liked this episode a lot because it's finally developing the characters more into what they should've been from the comics.
Glen in this episode starts to become more of a bad ass, i don't like how much awkwardness they still put in his character with the secrets, but he's starting to shape up to be more confident and smart, and brave like Maggie said to him, and it's about time, he was awesome that way in the comics.
Andrea is finally starting to become 'useful'. She is supposed to be one of the better shots in the group, and now she's finally come of age so to speak for that, and she will become an essential member with her acceptance of her own life being worth living, and having a skill that is actually useful to the group.
Lori and Rick clearing the air means they can finally get back to more pertinent problems, like her actual pregnancy and keeping it during this apocalypse, as well as how to handle it if/when they are forced to move again. Now they don't have to spend episodes of her hiding it or her relationship with shane, THIS IS GOOD to advance the story. and yes rick does take it well, because he's known, and has simply not wanted to admit it to himself, but probably came to terms with it a long time ago. Man i was pissed when Lori was calling out Rick about knowing Hershel's plan to kick them out when she was hiding such a big secret behind his back.
Shane seems to be finally nearing that point in which he's going to do something fucking stupid, something that will force Rick's hand.
+ Show Spoiler + and I wonder if they'll somehow finally kill off Shane now like they did in the comics, maybe in an all out brawl with Rick where he loses it over finding out about the pregnancy + his guilt of Otis + him possibly lashing out on Dale + Andrea realizing what a dick he really is and leaves him, i dunno. But I've been wondering how long they'll deviate from the comics and keep Shane alive, because obviously he adds drama, and usefulness to the group, but I feel the sooner he dies, the sooner the rest of the group, has to pick up their feet and learn to survive and not rely solely on rick shane and daryl. Anyone else think this mid season finale will show the death of Shane?
This is how the story is written, and is MEANT to be told, it's about PEOPLE, and trust, in a zombie apocalypse, NOT a zombie apocalypse and blowing up zombies while they somehow manage to find love/friendship/romance. it's the other way around people, GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEADS. If you're fast forwarding 60%+ of the show to just watch 'the good' parts, you're already missing the show, just do us a favor and stop watching, or stop posting, because now we know your opinions, and ideas are already skewed, biased, and uninformed, and you're doing a disservice to anyone new who is coming to the thread or the show.
Can't wait to see the mid-season finale.
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On November 22 2011 04:45 Rob28 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2011 04:36 Gosi wrote:
Ehm, why are they shooting around unnecessarily like that in the woods? Doesn't walkers react to loud noises as gun sound? So they are not just wasting ammo (something they doesn't seem to lack at all...) but they are also putting themself in danger by giving away their location and they may have to waste even more ammo on walkers because they waste ammo on bottles, nice. Thank you, I was waiting for someone else to acknowledge it. Really bugged me when I saw it, noticed it right away.
Happens in the comics too. They have a fair bit of ammo and probably considered that it was worth it to use it to make sure the people who have guns actually know how to use them. They have more guns than they have people able to use them, leaving those guns laying around would be kind of wasteful in the case of a larger attack, the more armed people the better, however if you arm people without training, it can lead to accidents and do more harm than good. That was likely their reasoning, not that absurd.
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On November 22 2011 04:56 Mordiford wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2011 04:45 Rob28 wrote:On November 22 2011 04:36 Gosi wrote:
Ehm, why are they shooting around unnecessarily like that in the woods? Doesn't walkers react to loud noises as gun sound? So they are not just wasting ammo (something they doesn't seem to lack at all...) but they are also putting themself in danger by giving away their location and they may have to waste even more ammo on walkers because they waste ammo on bottles, nice. Thank you, I was waiting for someone else to acknowledge it. Really bugged me when I saw it, noticed it right away. Happens in the comics too. They have a fair bit of ammo and probably considered that it was worth it to use it to make sure the people who have guns actually know how to use them. They have more guns than they have people able to use them, leaving those guns laying around would be kind of wasteful in the case of a larger attack, the more armed people the better, however if you arm people without training, it can lead to accidents and do more harm than good. That was likely their reasoning, not that absurd.
Yeah, i mean Rick ransacked the entire Police Department Armory before he left for Georgia, and had enough to give some of his ammo and guns to the Mexican Gangsters in Georgia, so I think using a few clips to train people properly (and look how it ended up working out for Andrea Oakley) is probably worth while. I know people are saying "WOW LOOK AT THEM WASTING SO MUCH AMMO" but go back and watch the episode, they showed, < 3 rounds fired by each person during the regular training except andrea, and even then, she shot 3 holes into the "NO" and she shot 1 berreta shot into the paint can. 4 bullets. Then she used MAYBE a clip in the woods while firing on a moving target, MAYBE because we only saw her fire 6 or so shots and missed, before she stormed off. Shane fired ONCE.
yeah, such a HUGE waste of ammo guys.
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On November 22 2011 05:04 Kazeyonoma wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2011 04:56 Mordiford wrote:On November 22 2011 04:45 Rob28 wrote:On November 22 2011 04:36 Gosi wrote:
Ehm, why are they shooting around unnecessarily like that in the woods? Doesn't walkers react to loud noises as gun sound? So they are not just wasting ammo (something they doesn't seem to lack at all...) but they are also putting themself in danger by giving away their location and they may have to waste even more ammo on walkers because they waste ammo on bottles, nice. Thank you, I was waiting for someone else to acknowledge it. Really bugged me when I saw it, noticed it right away. Happens in the comics too. They have a fair bit of ammo and probably considered that it was worth it to use it to make sure the people who have guns actually know how to use them. They have more guns than they have people able to use them, leaving those guns laying around would be kind of wasteful in the case of a larger attack, the more armed people the better, however if you arm people without training, it can lead to accidents and do more harm than good. That was likely their reasoning, not that absurd. Yeah, i mean Rick ransacked the entire Police Department Armory before he left for Georgia, and had enough to give some of his ammo and guns to the Mexican Gangsters in Georgia, so I think using a few clips to train people properly (and look how it ended up working out for Andrea Oakley) is probably worth while. I know people are saying "WOW LOOK AT THEM WASTING SO MUCH AMMO" but go back and watch the episode, they showed, < 3 rounds fired by each person during the regular training except andrea, and even then, she shot 3 holes into the "NO" and she shot 1 berreta shot into the paint can. 4 bullets. Then she used MAYBE a clip in the woods while firing on a moving target, MAYBE because we only saw her fire 6 or so shots and missed, before she stormed off. Shane fired ONCE. yeah, such a HUGE waste of ammo guys.
Something tells me most of these people have played too much Resident Evil :p
Obviously you don't want to totally run out of ammo, but it's worth wasting a few bullets learning HOW to shoot.
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Not really liking the direction they're taking Shane's character. Also, call me shallow but this show needs more zombies. Less drama, more biting imo.
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People that haven't REALLY REALLY need to go read the comics. I'm enjoying the show for the most part, but the comics are 1000x better.
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On November 22 2011 06:07 Criptos wrote:
People that haven't REALLY REALLY need to go read the comics. I'm enjoying the show for the most part, but the comics are 1000x better.
I've been thinking about reading the comics lately. Are they easy to find ina local book store?
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Solid episode. Probably my favorite thus far besides + Show Spoiler +the episode when otis got shot
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On November 22 2011 06:13 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2011 06:07 Criptos wrote:
People that haven't REALLY REALLY need to go read the comics. I'm enjoying the show for the most part, but the comics are 1000x better. I've been thinking about reading the comics lately. Are they easy to find ina local book store?
barnes and nobles should have them especially now that the show has taken off, comic stores are more likely to have it than small book stores though.
So in looking more indepth at the characters, I've wanted to do some kind of generalizations of the characters as I believe the writers may be doing the same.
Feel free to discuss/argue/call me stupid for my decisions here but I'm looking for reasoning as well as feedback.
Lawful Good = Rick / Dale
Neutral Good = Daryl / Glen
Chaotic Good = Shane
Lawful Neutral = Hershel
Neutral = T-dog
Chaotic Neutral = Merle
Lawful Evil = + Show Spoiler +Later in the comics, the leader of Woodbury, Brian Blake
Neutral Evil = + Show Spoiler + The prisoners in the comics
Chaotic Evil = Zombies
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On November 22 2011 06:44 Kazeyonoma wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2011 06:13 ShoCkeyy wrote:On November 22 2011 06:07 Criptos wrote:
People that haven't REALLY REALLY need to go read the comics. I'm enjoying the show for the most part, but the comics are 1000x better. I've been thinking about reading the comics lately. Are they easy to find ina local book store? barnes and nobles should have them especially now that the show has taken off, comic stores are more likely to have it than small book stores though. So in looking more indepth at the characters, I've wanted to do some kind of generalizations of the characters as I believe the writers may be doing the same. Feel free to discuss/argue/call me stupid for my decisions here but I'm looking for reasoning as well as feedback. Lawful Good = Rick / Dale Neutral Good = Daryl Chaotic Good = Shane Lawful Neutral = Hershel Neutral = T-dog Chaotic Neutral = Merle Lawful Evil = + Show Spoiler +Later in the comics, the leader of Woodbury, Brian Blake Neutral Evil = + Show Spoiler + The prisoners in the comics Chaotic Evil = Zombies
Chaotic Neutral Merle? Really?
Oh and Glenn belongs in Neutral Good too 
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On November 22 2011 07:16 Doctorbeat wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2011 06:44 Kazeyonoma wrote:On November 22 2011 06:13 ShoCkeyy wrote:On November 22 2011 06:07 Criptos wrote:
People that haven't REALLY REALLY need to go read the comics. I'm enjoying the show for the most part, but the comics are 1000x better. I've been thinking about reading the comics lately. Are they easy to find ina local book store? barnes and nobles should have them especially now that the show has taken off, comic stores are more likely to have it than small book stores though. So in looking more indepth at the characters, I've wanted to do some kind of generalizations of the characters as I believe the writers may be doing the same. Feel free to discuss/argue/call me stupid for my decisions here but I'm looking for reasoning as well as feedback. Lawful Good = Rick / Dale Neutral Good = Daryl Chaotic Good = Shane Lawful Neutral = Hershel Neutral = T-dog Chaotic Neutral = Merle Lawful Evil = + Show Spoiler +Later in the comics, the leader of Woodbury, Brian Blake Neutral Evil = + Show Spoiler + The prisoners in the comics Chaotic Evil = Zombies Chaotic Neutral Merle? Really? Oh and Glenn belongs in Neutral Good too
Good call on Glenn, forgot to mention him completely =P but you're right.
About merle, he hasn't really been on enought o say if he's truly evil or not right? He's just kind of willing to be chaotic, and turn on anyone (except his brother apparently) for his own freedoms and beliefs. I wouldn't say he was evil evil, because he obviously was sticking with the atlanta group before rick showed up, so he understands the benefit of having the group.
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On November 22 2011 06:44 Kazeyonoma wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2011 06:13 ShoCkeyy wrote:On November 22 2011 06:07 Criptos wrote:
People that haven't REALLY REALLY need to go read the comics. I'm enjoying the show for the most part, but the comics are 1000x better. I've been thinking about reading the comics lately. Are they easy to find ina local book store? barnes and nobles should have them especially now that the show has taken off, comic stores are more likely to have it than small book stores though. So in looking more indepth at the characters, I've wanted to do some kind of generalizations of the characters as I believe the writers may be doing the same. Feel free to discuss/argue/call me stupid for my decisions here but I'm looking for reasoning as well as feedback. Lawful Good = Rick / Dale Neutral Good = Daryl / Glen Chaotic Good = Shane Lawful Neutral = Hershel Neutral = T-dog Chaotic Neutral = Merle Lawful Evil = + Show Spoiler +Later in the comics, the leader of Woodbury, Brian Blake Neutral Evil = + Show Spoiler + The prisoners in the comics Chaotic Evil = Zombies
I'd say Dale is neutral good, if he was lawful he would have told everyone about the zombies by now.
Glen also belongs in neutral good (like someone else said).
You know its sad when the women have such a small role that you don't even feel the need to mention any of them.
Also quoting posts makes you see the spoilers 
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I really disliked this episode. Training the people to use the guns was just a huge waste of ammo. They wasted probably around 20+ ammunition. The noise also had a huge chance to attract nearby zombies. Besides that, almost nothing happened.
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On November 22 2011 04:39 jjun212 wrote:
the ending for me was so anti climatic..
when it ended, i thought it was a commercial break.. but no.. that was it..
i was like huh..? lol..
I download the show and I thought the video closed on accident or that the download was corrupted..wtf was that
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On November 22 2011 03:21 DwD wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2011 03:02 dazed wrote:On November 21 2011 18:16 legendre20 wrote:
Never been a fan of Andrea either, and I thought that the "slow mo" scene where she gets an adrenaline rush and starts shooting the zombies was one of the corniest things I've seen in a while.
Can't stand her. They were in the clear and could drive away, WHY WASTE BULLETS BITCH???? You think you have an endless supply? Bar none the most retarded person in the show and its not even close They clearly do considering they can target practice on bottles and swinging logs -_-
Shooting the zombies was her way of handling the grief from Amy`s death, as it was clear after Shane said "imagine that is the zombie that bit Amy" during practice and she became furious.
+ Show Spoiler +I liked that the TV show gave this explanation as why she is such a good shooter (a combination of talent + feeling relief from grief), whereas in the comic it was just "oh, look, she shoots well". It will give a deeper meaning everytime she pulls a gun.
The cool thing about the show is how it portraits the characters dealing with emotions, relationships and their own sanity in a post-apocalyptical world, instead of just showing how they figure out the most cost-efficient way to manage supplies or whatever.
That is not to say there won`t be carnage and interesting decisions regarding their survival, but there is more to it. So wasting bullets so Andrea can regain her peace of mind doesn`t sound so stupid after all.
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