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Discussing the show and past episodes is fine. Do not put things that have happened in the TV series in spoilers. However, don't spoil things from the books that may happen in future episodes. Put book spoilers in spoiler tags with a CLEAR WARNING that it is from the book.
DamnCats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1472 Posts
November 15 2011 14:32 GMT
#1701
On November 15 2011 22:03 theBALLS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2011 21:49 matiK23 wrote:
The best part of the show is the freaking beginning credits. It's probably the best intro on tv right now.

Sorry dexter has the most awesome intro :D


As much as I love Dexter and think it's probably a slightly better show, The Walking Dead intro is pretty much the best intro ever made for any show. The music + the shots of their old lives and picture frames and shit... god damn... so well done.

Also I find it hard to believe that after even just a few days of living in a camp outside the farmhouse the gang hasn't realized the barn is padlocked and filled with zombies ;-/ But whatever, still an awesome show.
Disciples of a god, that neither lives nor breathes.
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5298 Posts
November 15 2011 14:41 GMT
#1702
On November 15 2011 23:26 TheBomb wrote:
Do you know how many zombies it takes to put a light bulb?

a whole barn of them
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
RmoteCntrld
Profile Joined June 2010
United States596 Posts
November 15 2011 14:41 GMT
#1703
On November 15 2011 08:52 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2011 08:50 dazed wrote:
On November 15 2011 08:07 Pyskee wrote:
On November 14 2011 15:21 dazed wrote:
On November 14 2011 15:18 jbui wrote:
why was glen "not supposed to see that" at the end there?


The greene family kill off people to create a super zombie army

Not even kidding when I say that would be fucking awesome and this show would reach new levels of badassery.


I'm just saying... what a "coincidence" that otis "accidentally" shot carl. A hunter that can miss a deer but hit a small child? Dude didnt have any means to bring the deer back to the farm. Shit aint adding up

Didn't the bullet go directly through the deer? I think it was totally an honest mistake.

Hershel even says the boy survived because the bullet was slowed by the deer.


Yea but he gutshot the deer what kind of hunter gutshots a deer using a rifle?!
DamnCats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1472 Posts
November 15 2011 15:11 GMT
#1704
On November 15 2011 23:41 RmoteCntrld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2011 08:52 micronesia wrote:
On November 15 2011 08:50 dazed wrote:
On November 15 2011 08:07 Pyskee wrote:
On November 14 2011 15:21 dazed wrote:
On November 14 2011 15:18 jbui wrote:
why was glen "not supposed to see that" at the end there?


The greene family kill off people to create a super zombie army

Not even kidding when I say that would be fucking awesome and this show would reach new levels of badassery.


I'm just saying... what a "coincidence" that otis "accidentally" shot carl. A hunter that can miss a deer but hit a small child? Dude didnt have any means to bring the deer back to the farm. Shit aint adding up

Didn't the bullet go directly through the deer? I think it was totally an honest mistake.

Hershel even says the boy survived because the bullet was slowed by the deer.


Yea but he gutshot the deer what kind of hunter gutshots a deer using a rifle?!


I'm not a hunter, and I know fuck all about hunting, but what kind of deer instantly keels over and dies from a gutshot?
Disciples of a god, that neither lives nor breathes.
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
November 15 2011 15:13 GMT
#1705
On November 16 2011 00:11 DamnCats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2011 23:41 RmoteCntrld wrote:
On November 15 2011 08:52 micronesia wrote:
On November 15 2011 08:50 dazed wrote:
On November 15 2011 08:07 Pyskee wrote:
On November 14 2011 15:21 dazed wrote:
On November 14 2011 15:18 jbui wrote:
why was glen "not supposed to see that" at the end there?


The greene family kill off people to create a super zombie army

Not even kidding when I say that would be fucking awesome and this show would reach new levels of badassery.


I'm just saying... what a "coincidence" that otis "accidentally" shot carl. A hunter that can miss a deer but hit a small child? Dude didnt have any means to bring the deer back to the farm. Shit aint adding up

Didn't the bullet go directly through the deer? I think it was totally an honest mistake.

Hershel even says the boy survived because the bullet was slowed by the deer.


Yea but he gutshot the deer what kind of hunter gutshots a deer using a rifle?!


I'm not a hunter, and I know fuck all about hunting, but what kind of deer instantly keels over and dies from a gutshot?


using a high caliber hunting rifle, the deer dies from the impact of the bullet instantly
And all is illuminated.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19191 Posts
November 15 2011 16:22 GMT
#1706
Uh...Rick slept with Lori the first night he was back with her, and spent at least a few days at the camp. Considering the commercials for pregnancy tests say they can detect pregnancy after just 5 days or so, I'm pretty sure a guy with fancy equipment working with blood could tell easily. I don't think it's a safe assumption that it's Shane's kid.

On the other hand the writers suck so it probably is.
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myIRE
Profile Joined November 2008
Belgium229 Posts
November 15 2011 17:00 GMT
#1707
I have to agree with the intro being the best part of the show right now. I'm really tired of that whole drama angle they are trying to spin. I think that the first season had a good balance of action and your typical "people living together creates drama". Now the 2nd season's first episode continued that but quickly they dropped all action and are just focusing on the whole emotional aspect of people interacting with each other. Just too much drama for drama's sake. Perfect example here is how randomly the kid got shot. Just so not what this show needs. In the last episode especially, Andrea shoots the Darel thinking it was a walker, even after everyone told her not to. She should not have access to guns anymore after this, it's just stupid how they create these situations that are not relevant to the plot and absolutely have no place in this show.
Freedom is the most contageous virus known to men.
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
November 15 2011 18:49 GMT
#1708
On November 16 2011 01:22 tofucake wrote:
Uh...Rick slept with Lori the first night he was back with her, and spent at least a few days at the camp. Considering the commercials for pregnancy tests say they can detect pregnancy after just 5 days or so, I'm pretty sure a guy with fancy equipment working with blood could tell easily. I don't think it's a safe assumption that it's Shane's kid.

On the other hand the writers suck so it probably is.


How the fuck would the writers sucking make it more likely that it's Shane's kid? I don't see how that would be bad writing at all, not to mention + Show Spoiler +
that was the case in the comics.
Furthermore, we don't know if the guy from the CDC was testing for something in a way that would have turned her up as being pregnant, that's more than likely not what he told Rick either because I don't see any reason why Rick would keep information like that from Lori. I don't think it's a safe assumption that it's Rick's kid either, it's very possible that it's Shane's.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19191 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-15 19:00:11
November 15 2011 18:59 GMT
#1709
On November 16 2011 03:49 Mordiford wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 01:22 tofucake wrote:
Uh...Rick slept with Lori the first night he was back with her, and spent at least a few days at the camp. Considering the commercials for pregnancy tests say they can detect pregnancy after just 5 days or so, I'm pretty sure a guy with fancy equipment working with blood could tell easily. I don't think it's a safe assumption that it's Shane's kid.

On the other hand the writers suck so it probably is.


How the fuck would the writers sucking make it more likely that it's Shane's kid? I don't see how that would be bad writing at all, not to mention + Show Spoiler +
that was the case in the comics.
Furthermore, we don't know if the guy from the CDC was testing for something in a way that would have turned her up as being pregnant, that's more than likely not what he told Rick either because I don't see any reason why Rick would keep information like that from Lori. I don't think it's a safe assumption that it's Rick's kid either, it's very possible that it's Shane's.
I'm just responding to what people are saying in the thread (ie that Jenner told Rick Lori is preggo) and that it's entirely possible that if that is the case, then it's still possible it's Rick's. Additionally, I haven't followed the comics since+ Show Spoiler +
early prison time
and this thread is about the show anyway, AND the show is supposed to be different from the comics so the comic has absolutely no bearing whatsoever on the story anymore. Finally, it was a joke.

That said, the writers are still pretty bad.
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Absolutionn
Profile Joined October 2010
United States512 Posts
November 15 2011 19:08 GMT
#1710
What I dont understand is how certain people can watch this show and determine whether or not it is good by which characters they kill off and if anyone dies in an episode. Does the plot and the over-arching story around the whole show not matter?

It seems like a great of posts in this thread are like "the writers did this which doesnt make complete sense, making them bad". Who cares!!!! Just enjoy the show for its plot and character progression!!
Jinro | Idra | Qxc | Select
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
November 15 2011 19:08 GMT
#1711
On November 16 2011 03:59 tofucake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 03:49 Mordiford wrote:
On November 16 2011 01:22 tofucake wrote:
Uh...Rick slept with Lori the first night he was back with her, and spent at least a few days at the camp. Considering the commercials for pregnancy tests say they can detect pregnancy after just 5 days or so, I'm pretty sure a guy with fancy equipment working with blood could tell easily. I don't think it's a safe assumption that it's Shane's kid.

On the other hand the writers suck so it probably is.


How the fuck would the writers sucking make it more likely that it's Shane's kid? I don't see how that would be bad writing at all, not to mention + Show Spoiler +
that was the case in the comics.
Furthermore, we don't know if the guy from the CDC was testing for something in a way that would have turned her up as being pregnant, that's more than likely not what he told Rick either because I don't see any reason why Rick would keep information like that from Lori. I don't think it's a safe assumption that it's Rick's kid either, it's very possible that it's Shane's.
I'm just responding to what people are saying in the thread (ie that Jenner told Rick Lori is preggo) and that it's entirely possible that if that is the case, then it's still possible it's Rick's. Additionally, I haven't followed the comics since+ Show Spoiler +
early prison time
and this thread is about the show anyway, AND the show is supposed to be different from the comics so the comic has absolutely no bearing whatsoever on the story anymore. Finally, it was a joke.

That said, the writers are still pretty bad.


The comic has a lot of bearing on the story, considering the show is based on the comics and has been following the main events of the comics fairly well. Ultimately, what I've seen from this thread in terms of gripes with the show are gripes that could be raised just as easily with the comics, to those, I can only say that it's not for you. I honestly feel that the last episode was probably one of the best of the series so far, though the pilot is obviously still on top.

The writing has been fine in the more recent episodes, it wasn't exactly super stellar in the first season either. The comic itself never really peaked for me up until the + Show Spoiler +
prison part
which I feel it has yet to get back to in terms of quality either. Ultimately, I feel the show does a good job of maintaining comparable quality to the comic so far which is laudable as it is a hard task to translate the kind of writing that's contained in the comics.

To those who thing there's too much drama or that they go off the main plot(what main plot? Honestly, I find people saying this and have no idea what they're referring to) then all I can say is, it won't get any better for you if it keeps following the comics which it looks like they have every intention of doing.
Raisauce
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada864 Posts
November 15 2011 20:01 GMT
#1712
On November 15 2011 23:32 DamnCats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2011 22:03 theBALLS wrote:
On November 15 2011 21:49 matiK23 wrote:
The best part of the show is the freaking beginning credits. It's probably the best intro on tv right now.

Sorry dexter has the most awesome intro :D


As much as I love Dexter and think it's probably a slightly better show, The Walking Dead intro is pretty much the best intro ever made for any show. The music + the shots of their old lives and picture frames and shit... god damn... so well done.

Also I find it hard to believe that after even just a few days of living in a camp outside the farmhouse the gang hasn't realized the barn is padlocked and filled with zombies ;-/ But whatever, still an awesome show.


Have you not seen the Game of Thrones intro? No show even compares to that intro. It changes according to the setting of that particular episode. The visuals and music are both epic. I had to download the opening song to put on my iPod because I loved it so much.
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
November 15 2011 20:13 GMT
#1713
On November 16 2011 04:08 Absolutionn wrote:
What I dont understand is how certain people can watch this show and determine whether or not it is good by which characters they kill off and if anyone dies in an episode. Does the plot and the over-arching story around the whole show not matter?

It seems like a great of posts in this thread are like "the writers did this which doesnt make complete sense, making them bad". Who cares!!!! Just enjoy the show for its plot and character progression!!

You're right, people who want more zombies/deaths are going to be disappointed repeatedly and need to change their expectations of what this show is trying to do. The problem is, if you've been watching for the plot and character progression then it is a) moving on at a snails pace this season, and b) has done very little to develop any character other than Daryl. I'm glad they finally discovered what is in the barn, it should create the necessary tension between the two groups to actually make for some compelling scenes.
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Jayson X
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Switzerland2431 Posts
November 15 2011 20:21 GMT
#1714
On November 14 2011 16:29 Slow Motion wrote:
"You see 11 condoms I see 11 minutes of my life I'm never getting back." Holy fuck if I heard that from some chick I had sex with my confidence would be destroyed. And then instead of getting laid Glenn is used as a plot device to reveal the zombies in the barn. Though if it were me I'd be like "cool you got zombies in the barn now let's go fuck somewhere else."


Haha nice!
She: "You..still...you know...wanna do it?"
He: "I'm already finished"
*ba dum tschhh*


Good to see that I wasn't the only one rooting for Daryl and great to see him getting some screentime. Good episode! MOAR!
Sterlymobile
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1009 Posts
November 15 2011 20:33 GMT
#1715
On November 15 2011 22:15 Nekovivie wrote:
Can someone explain the whole ears thing though?

That was so gross. Why would he have any reason to do that, he's not done it before, so it cant be like some kinda trophy


Maybe he played Diablo and was like "heh its like Diablo".
"You sons of a silly person"
xSixGeneralHan
Profile Joined April 2011
United States528 Posts
November 15 2011 20:35 GMT
#1716
I love daryl, they can never kill him off. WWDD is wassup.

I'm pretty sure doc said she's preggors, and I dont think it's Shane cuz Based the timeline I'd be inclined to think she would have a tiny bump or morning sickness already. So it being Rick makes more sense
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Frosty4ever
Profile Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18 Posts
November 15 2011 20:40 GMT
#1717
Death Valley - better version of the walking dead especialy season 2
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-16 02:57:11
November 15 2011 21:26 GMT
#1718
I probably won't get love over here for this but Season 2 of TWD is turning out to be disappointing as **** to me, I had my hopes up because the first season was so absurdly amazing, but this now is stagnating and recent development doesn't seem too promising. That's 5 full blown episodes and nothing interesting has happened. Episode 1 seemed like it was building up to something, episode 2 seemed like the build up was taking longer than it really should, episode 3 is when I started being worried that they were stretching things out and just throwing filler at me.

We have a huge budget, have you ever seen such a pretty forest? [Removed untrue stuff]

Things are not looking particularly good from my perspective.

+ Show Spoiler +
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p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
November 16 2011 01:50 GMT
#1719
While Game of Thrones does have a higher budget you're over blowing the difference. Game of Thrones' budget for the first season was reportedly between $50-60 million. TWD season 2 is reportedly around $35 million. So one episode of GoT doesn't cost more than the entire season of TWD, but HBO definitely has more to work with.
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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-16 02:57:53
November 16 2011 02:52 GMT
#1720
On November 16 2011 10:50 p4NDemik wrote:
While Game of Thrones does have a higher budget you're over blowing the difference. Game of Thrones' budget for the first season was reportedly between $50-60 million. TWD season 2 is reportedly around $35 million. So one episode of GoT doesn't cost more than the entire season of TWD, but HBO definitely has more to work with.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding something here: http://screenrant.com/walking-dead-frank-darabont-amc-aco-127783/

"the network had already announced to the producers that they would not only be cutting the budget of the series from $3.4 million to $2.7 million, but that they would also want 13 episodes produced instead of 6 episodes that made up its first season"

Edit: Oh, I just checked another site and it turns out it's 2.7 million per episode (down from 3.4 million), which actually makes sense - the website I linked is written poorly IMO... Anyway, sorry if I mislead anybody. 2.7 million for the entire season seemed crazy, I should've been more skeptical of that.
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