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AcrossFiveJulys
United States3612 Posts
Now I've adopted a policy of fast forwarding through scenes such as: 1) dialogue between rick, lori, carl ("hope" talk that makes me cringe, and rick/lori not showing any emotions for each other) 2) dialogue between sofia's mother and anyone else (undue religious garbage, pity party) 3) dialogue between rick and farmer man (more undue religious garbage) | ||
Klogon
MURICA15980 Posts
On November 08 2011 08:56 Capped wrote: So... They wouldnt think that the well would be contaminated already? O.o The guy was swelled to shit because of how long he'd been in there, covered in cuts / holes / blood but of course, none of that would be in the water and everyone would be happy to drink it... Gotta say i didnt pick up on the barn stuff, seems pretty likely to be honest, hilbillies in the middle of nowhere pullin that shit and all the dodginess around it anyway. Anyone stopped to think the girl knew that zombie in the well hence why she reacted? Could explain her sudden outburst of "fuck me glen, you rugged handsome beast!" although i dont find that all too surprising, i called it from the moment they met and her saying that in a situation like this, understandable. This episode was shite though and ive always defended this series as being a drama not a zombie show..but lol what a letdown, i only enjoyed daryl's scenes and Glen being a bad-ass, getting that rope on the zomzom then getting laid.(although putting him there in the first place was retarded -_-) Im with the fact i dont really care about many of the actors anymore (especially Lori / Shane.) i just watch because its kinda interesting ^_^. Hmm yeah I remember thinking that maybe the farm people knew the zombie was in there and was thus trying to poison the new people as some sort of sick solution to whatever. However, that would not really explain why they sacrificed to try to save the little boy. | ||
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Moralez
Portugal1857 Posts
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Jesushooves
Canada553 Posts
On November 08 2011 13:55 Moralez wrote: Gonna get canceled if it keeps going this way. Yeah, breaking bad went faster than this, even the second season. No action in a zombie series is just....retarded. | ||
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unit
United States2621 Posts
On November 08 2011 13:49 Klogon wrote: Hmm yeah I remember thinking that maybe the farm people knew the zombie was in there and was thus trying to poison the new people as some sort of sick solution to whatever. However, that would not really explain why they sacrificed to try to save the little boy. what i was thinking (never read the comics so i can say anything and it wont be a spoiler :D:D:D) was a step further, maybe they knew the person who became a zombie and put him there in the hopes for a cure, judging by the farmer's talk previously and his expectation that God will save them all and they probably feel the need to protect their loved ones so that they can bring them back whenever the cure should come around, this also explains the look on the daughter's face when the zombie was killed also regarding that scene, i was mildly amused by the statement "good thing we didnt do anything stupid like shoot it" in addition to that why do anything, its never getting out of there, there are other wells, and the water is most likely contaminated regardless of what happens -_- edit: On November 08 2011 05:43 slyboogie wrote: I like Daryl but I don't think they "developed" him. He never gave the impression of sensitive or philosophical in the first 6 episodes. What changed? There's no scene where he needs to grow or change, except maybe when they get to the roof in the first season and find that Merle isn't there. I think they just decided Daryl needed to be more anti-hero and less wildcard. by developed, i mean he actually does shit xD also imo they did develop that he seems to always be helpful and cares about the group rather than just a rugged loner, he isnt the most social but he seems to get along with the group better than he did originally, hes quite dependable but i'd assume that that trait followed him before | ||
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Raithed
China7078 Posts
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BlackJack
United States10574 Posts
On November 08 2011 13:41 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: That horrendous well scene is a contender for worst side plot since season 1 where they find the mexican gangbangers with hearts of gold. Hope things start getting interesting again. I remember the first episode of season 1 I was legitimately regretting watching it in the dark before going to sleep. Now I've adopted a policy of fast forwarding through scenes such as: 1) dialogue between rick, lori, carl ("hope" talk that makes me cringe, and rick/lori not showing any emotions for each other) 2) dialogue between sofia's mother and anyone else (undue religious garbage, pity party) 3) dialogue between rick and farmer man (more undue religious garbage) I love the dialogue between Rick and farmer man. They both seem very genuine and wise in their own ways | ||
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Mordiford
4448 Posts
On November 08 2011 13:57 Jesushooves wrote: Yeah, breaking bad went faster than this, even the second season. No action in a zombie series is just....retarded. It's actually following the pace of the comics to an extent, the comics had numerous issues where there were hardly any zombies. Also, it's not really meant to be an action series. Just saying, if that's what you're here for, you're watching the wrong show. The source material it's based on had a similar run of events, they've skipped some stuff to get to other stuff faster, added some extra stuff here and there and changed some characters around a little bit, but by and large it's following the story of the comic. Also, one of the fan favorites of the show wasn't even in the comics, Daryl is a really solid addition. So if your question is, "Where's the action?", my response is that this probably isn't the show for you. There will be action here and there but there will be plenty of downtime and plenty of episodes with minimal amounts of zombies as well, just as there will be episodes with fuck-tons of zombies like the Otis/Shane medicine run episode. It's not an action show. On November 08 2011 13:55 Moralez wrote: Gonna get canceled if it keeps going this way. It's already been renewed for a third season, AMC seems pretty confident in the show and they should be, it's pulling in some of the best ratings they've ever seen. | ||
p4NDemik
United States13896 Posts
On November 08 2011 05:43 slyboogie wrote: I like Daryl but I don't think they "developed" him. He never gave the impression of sensitive or philosophical in the first 6 episodes. What changed? There's no scene where he needs to grow or change, except maybe when they get to the roof in the first season and find that Merle isn't there. I think they just decided Daryl needed to be more anti-hero and less wildcard. I do have to say that the scene where he described the Cherokee Rose was very odd. It's cool that he doesn't have a heart of stone but they sort of took it overboard with that scene. | ||
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unit
United States2621 Posts
On November 08 2011 14:02 BlackJack wrote: I love the dialogue between Rick and farmer man. They both seem very genuine and wise in their own ways they both seem to take something away from the conversations too, its genuine character development, well done (regardless of religion being the topic...its a legit topic in a zombie invasion for those who believe) as for #2 her kid is missing in a zombie invasion, her kid who is the most important thing in the world to her, the MOST important thing, and she's missing...it may be a pity party but its a deserved one, its no different from rick and lori's son being shot and their reaction to it, the only difference really is the amount of time that they have to be paranoid worrying for their kid's safety anyway, to whoever said that the pregnancy storyline will not be interesting has forgotten that the kid is probably shanes -_- also im starting to think that the thing that the guy told rick at the end of S1 was that lori is pregnant and not something super badass like "dude you're infected but you're still around" which could be explained as he died in the hospital and came back infected as a zombie but not a zombie a human, which would make rick the cure...but ofc that's crazy xD | ||
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imPERSONater
United States1324 Posts
I heard somewhere there were different writers for every episode this season? That may account for the lack of over-arching plot. Pretty disappointing though  I was talking this show up so much after the first few episodes of season 1 and it has gone down hill ever since. | ||
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Mordiford
4448 Posts
On November 08 2011 14:08 p4NDemik wrote: I do have to say that the scene where he described the Cherokee Rose was very odd. It's cool that he doesn't have a heart of stone but they sort of took it overboard with that scene. I sort of felt like that scene established how little we've actually gotten to know the real Daryl. We sort of pegged him as an ass by association with Mearle but we only really saw Daryl aggravated because his introduction was followed immediately by him being told his group had left his brother handcuffed on a roof, decent reason to freak out. Daryl was never really made out to be a jerk, he was just a massive unknown, now that we're actually getting to know him, we learn that he had a fucked up family but he seems to have turned out alright. On November 08 2011 14:12 imPERSONater wrote: I love Daryl, and that's about it for the show. It has become predictable and the tension (which kept me intrigued season 1) is definitely lacking. The pregnancy was absurdly obvious because there HAS TO BE DRAMA! I feel like all season has just been small side plots and almost no advancement of the main plot. I heard somewhere there were different writers for every episode this season? That may account for the lack of over-arching plot. Pretty disappointing though I was talking this show up so much after the first few episodes of season 1 and it has gone down hill ever since.I'm sorry, I feel like I have to ask this every time someone says this. What main plot? The main plot is, "Survivors in a zombie apocalypse try to find a safe place". They found a safe place for now, main plot concluded. The entire series is just them trying to find a safe place, everything else is side plots, this is how it was in the comics as well. It just seems to me that people have an entirely wrong expectation of what this show is trying to be, it's actually kept to the general idea of the comic to a fair degree. This is it, there is no great master-plan main plot behind everything, this is the show. | ||
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imPERSONater
United States1324 Posts
They create questions such as: is there a cure? How did it happen? Are there other survivor camps? But for 5 episodes in season 2 we aren't getting closer to answering them. We sure as hell know who slept with whom though! I want less Gossip Girl and more 28 Days Later :D Maybe that's just me. | ||
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ZaplinG
United States3818 Posts
You are jaded by your comfortable lives, watching this series from your comfortable couches. Imagine yourself in their place...The world has turned into hell and there is death in every shadow, nook, and cranny. Every hour of every day is spent on edge, full of expectant horror and terror. You can't really trust anyone. You don't really have any friends. In this situation, it is not absurd that these characters are pondering the meaning behind their existence. In fact, if religion wasn't brought up at all and completely skirted, I would feel as if an important part of their humanity wasn't being accurately portrayed. In fact, I think realistically it should be discussed more. I understand that doesn't make for good TV, since not everyone shares the same faith or has faith at all or even possibly gets offended by it, but surely it's natural for the topic to surface from time to time. so stop the qq | ||
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Klogon
MURICA15980 Posts
On November 08 2011 14:29 ZaplinG wrote: Attention all of you who dislike the religion on the show: You are jaded by your comfortable lives, watching this series from your comfortable couches. Imagine yourself in their place...The world has turned into hell and there is death in every shadow, nook, and cranny. Every hour of every day is spent on edge, full of expectant horror and terror. You can't really trust anyone. You don't really have any friends. In this situation, it is not absurd that these characters are pondering the meaning behind their existence. In fact, if religion wasn't brought up at all and completely skirted, I would feel as if an important part of their humanity wasn't being accurately portrayed. In fact, I think realistically it should be discussed more. I understand that doesn't make for good TV, since not everyone shares the same faith or has faith at all or even possibly gets offended by it, but surely it's natural for the topic to surface from time to time. so stop the qq That's easy to get and understand, but it is very poorly done. And this is coming from a very devout Christian. Take the Rick with his son example. Rick uses it as a way to prove that God doesn't care. Well Rick, if you wanted to go that route, why didn't that cross your mind when the WHOLE FUCKING WORLD DIED DUE TO A CRAZY ZOMBIE INFECTION. Stuff like that are questions that people actually have regarding modern day problems and it would resonate with much of the population. | ||
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PartyBiscuit
Canada4525 Posts
I'll bandwagon and rant a bit since everyone's hating last episode, but with the exception of the killing of Otis for Season 2, everything feels so forced and pointless (kid disappears - ok, Rick's kid shot by random - ok..., bloated well zombie - okkk.., Lori pregnant - sigh...). Lori and Rick are...so....bad. It's as if the three leads have been all taught to do a Christian Bale Dark Knight impression, everything in soft spoken growls. Andrew Lincoln (Rick) had the absolute worst opening monologue I've ever heard where he warned Morgan at the start of this season. It doesn't help that the two are absolutely emotionless, which is hard to pull off since I see tears coming down, but feel nothing. | ||
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JimSocks
United States968 Posts
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
On November 08 2011 14:53 JimSocks wrote: daryl is the best character on the show. a bad ass +1 That character is done so incredibly well. Even in his speech to Carol at the end, he keeps his entire atmosphere. Definitely my favorite character and actor in the show. | ||
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Mordiford
4448 Posts
On November 08 2011 14:27 imPERSONater wrote: I guess I am looking for some type of movement forward. It's been three episodes of them trodding around in the woods looking for the girl. I may have unrealistic expectations, but from someone who didn't read the comics it feels like the series is treading water. They create questions such as: is there a cure? How did it happen? Are there other survivor camps? But for 5 episodes in season 2 we aren't getting closer to answering them. We sure as hell know who slept with whom though! I want less Gossip Girl and more 28 Days Later :D Maybe that's just me. To your first two questions, those will most likely never be answered. The creator of the original source material has pretty much said that that is not what the series is about, it's not about the source of the outbreak and the creation of a cure would likely answer that question. The show addresses this by blowing up the bloody CDC, unless it goes in a really weird direction with a group of genius scientists figuring it out, I don't see this happening. The third question has already been answered, they've run into plenty of other survivors, the Vatos and now the Hershels, the fact that their own group has also been split makes it fairly obvious that there are other survivor camps. So yeah, if this is the stuff you're expecting from the series, you might be watching the wrong show, unless they go way off the source material in both theme and content, which they haven't so far. | ||
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Kazeyonoma
United States2912 Posts
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