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Discussing the show and past episodes is fine. Do not put things that have happened in the TV series in spoilers. However, don't spoil things from the books that may happen in future episodes. Put book spoilers in spoiler tags with a CLEAR WARNING that it is from the book.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 17 2015 18:31 GMT
#9061
He bled out.


Anyways Eugene was awesome this episode.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
March 17 2015 18:47 GMT
#9062
On March 18 2015 03:16 gsgfdf wrote:
Can someone explain why anyone would turn after getting bitten like Tyreese on episode 9? Everyone has the virus already and the wound from that bite was pretty small so he can easily recover from that bleeding.

Because whatever virus turns people in zombies becomes stronger once a body dies and then when it is transmited to someone it gives you a fever and you die soon after.
Assault_1
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1950 Posts
March 17 2015 18:50 GMT
#9063
On March 18 2015 02:35 Twisted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2015 02:25 B1nary wrote:
Getting eaten alive must suck. You probably wouldn't die quickly since they can't really get at your brain/heart. You'll be watching the zombies eat you for a few minutes while you bleed out.


In the real world everyone would pass out from shock in seconds.

Not really.. in the real world you can't just claw/bite and get into someone's organs in a few seconds, I would think its actually pretty tough to tear someone apart
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-17 18:56:52
March 17 2015 18:56 GMT
#9064
Which brings up the major plot hole as to why they haven't picked up riot shields etc since the series started like in the comics.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
March 17 2015 18:57 GMT
#9065
On March 18 2015 03:50 Assault_1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2015 02:35 Twisted wrote:
On March 18 2015 02:25 B1nary wrote:
Getting eaten alive must suck. You probably wouldn't die quickly since they can't really get at your brain/heart. You'll be watching the zombies eat you for a few minutes while you bleed out.


In the real world everyone would pass out from shock in seconds.

Not really.. in the real world you can't just claw/bite and get into someone's organs in a few seconds, I would think its actually pretty tough to tear someone apart


Yeah that's what I wanted to add lol. Weakass zombie's just ripping someone apart is also something that wouldn't happen. But if it were possible my point is valid I think? I'm not a medical expert though.
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Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
March 17 2015 21:15 GMT
#9066
Just to add my disclaimer first, I really love the current episodes, and I loved this one. It's awesome to see the two groups working on each other without one being the blatantly bad, evil group and the other the heroes that only want peace in life.

Having said that, they played up the other group's incompetence at pretty much everything to do with survival far too much in my opinion. I get the idea, but if you take a step back and think about it, a group this incompetent at dealing with zombies would never have managed to survive this long to begin with. And the argument that they just took competent groups in that died one by one is kind of.. odd. It really wouldn't have worked like that.

Also, kind of weird how some people are annoyed at the priest in this thread, though. Carol is planning to murder a dude in cold blood because he might know too much, and people try to argue that Rick's group is the obviously good one. Both groups are morally ambiguous, that's what makes the current storyline so much fun to watch.
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9201 Posts
March 17 2015 22:01 GMT
#9067
You have to stop being rational if you want to enjoy a tv show about zombies.
You're now breathing manually
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18012 Posts
March 17 2015 22:12 GMT
#9068
On March 18 2015 06:15 Conti wrote:
Just to add my disclaimer first, I really love the current episodes, and I loved this one. It's awesome to see the two groups working on each other without one being the blatantly bad, evil group and the other the heroes that only want peace in life.

Having said that, they played up the other group's incompetence at pretty much everything to do with survival far too much in my opinion. I get the idea, but if you take a step back and think about it, a group this incompetent at dealing with zombies would never have managed to survive this long to begin with. And the argument that they just took competent groups in that died one by one is kind of.. odd. It really wouldn't have worked like that.

Also, kind of weird how some people are annoyed at the priest in this thread, though. Carol is planning to murder a dude in cold blood because he might know too much, and people try to argue that Rick's group is the obviously good one. Both groups are morally ambiguous, that's what makes the current storyline so much fun to watch.

That's not why Carol wants to murder the dude. Carol wants to murder the dude because he is an abusive husband who is definitely beating his wife and maybe beating his kids.

I do agree with the incompetence. While there was a decent explanation for the two douchebags' incompetence, there does not seem to be much reason for the workcrew's foreman to be such a craven and useless twat. Then again, these inconsistencies are really really minor in comparison to the facepalm-worthy ridiculousness of some of the plot-required stupidity in previous arcs. So far, the episodes since the winter break have been really rather good.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19063 Posts
March 17 2015 23:51 GMT
#9069
A lot of them die (and have died) because alexandrians choose to retreat from walkers, whereas rick's group always goes to help/for the kills when possible.
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Oktyabr
Profile Joined July 2011
Singapore2234 Posts
March 18 2015 00:43 GMT
#9070
On March 18 2015 03:16 gsgfdf wrote:
Can someone explain why anyone would turn after getting bitten like Tyreese on episode 9? Everyone has the virus already and the wound from that bite was pretty small so he can easily recover from that bleeding.


Tyreese wouldn't have turned from the bite, he would have died regardless from the bleed out and turn that way since the wound was actually size-able. Even if he didn't bleed out, you can assume that the bite will probably lead to a ton of infection given that walkers eat flesh and dead corpses or whatever. That stuff would kill in an age where both medical supplies and expertise are in short supply.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23255 Posts
March 18 2015 01:13 GMT
#9071
On March 18 2015 09:43 Oktyabr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2015 03:16 gsgfdf wrote:
Can someone explain why anyone would turn after getting bitten like Tyreese on episode 9? Everyone has the virus already and the wound from that bite was pretty small so he can easily recover from that bleeding.


Tyreese wouldn't have turned from the bite, he would have died regardless from the bleed out and turn that way since the wound was actually size-able. Even if he didn't bleed out, you can assume that the bite will probably lead to a ton of infection given that walkers eat flesh and dead corpses or whatever. That stuff would kill in an age where both medical supplies and expertise are in short supply.


Yeah you can think of a zombie bite kind of like instant hardcore gangrene in a world without reliable access to antibiotics. Hence the tendency to try to hack stuff off.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
kwizach
Profile Joined June 2011
3658 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-18 02:07:19
March 18 2015 02:06 GMT
#9072
Great episode! Aiden was getting better at swallowing his pride and following Glenn's lead, so I was sad to see him die. I didn't care much about Noah, frankly, because pretty much all he did was look sad. But man, the pastor... Such an annoying character, and now I can't wait to see him bite the dust following that betrayal. We're lucky Maggie heard that - I hope she manages to salvage things somehow once Glenn & co come back/Rick accuses Pete and Deanna inevitably begins to question who's telling the truth. I have a feeling things are not going to go well, though, we'll see :p
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -- Stephen Colbert
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18012 Posts
March 18 2015 14:03 GMT
#9073
Of course things aren't going to go well! "And they all lived happily ever after" is some really really boring television :D
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
March 18 2015 14:13 GMT
#9074
On March 18 2015 11:06 kwizach wrote:
Great episode! Aiden was getting better at swallowing his pride and following Glenn's lead, so I was sad to see him die. I didn't care much about Noah, frankly, because pretty much all he did was look sad. But man, the pastor... Such an annoying character, and now I can't wait to see him bite the dust following that betrayal. We're lucky Maggie heard that - I hope she manages to salvage things somehow once Glenn & co come back/Rick accuses Pete and Deanna inevitably begins to question who's telling the truth. I have a feeling things are not going to go well, though, we'll see :p

Noah death was expected.. because Everbody hates Chris.
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-18 15:31:42
March 18 2015 15:30 GMT
#9075
On March 18 2015 10:13 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2015 09:43 Oktyabr wrote:
On March 18 2015 03:16 gsgfdf wrote:
Can someone explain why anyone would turn after getting bitten like Tyreese on episode 9? Everyone has the virus already and the wound from that bite was pretty small so he can easily recover from that bleeding.


Tyreese wouldn't have turned from the bite, he would have died regardless from the bleed out and turn that way since the wound was actually size-able. Even if he didn't bleed out, you can assume that the bite will probably lead to a ton of infection given that walkers eat flesh and dead corpses or whatever. That stuff would kill in an age where both medical supplies and expertise are in short supply.


Yeah you can think of a zombie bite kind of like instant hardcore gangrene in a world without reliable access to antibiotics. Hence the tendency to try to hack stuff off.


If you remember in season 1 or 2 someone gets bit, but doesn't die and quickly develops a full blown fever/infection that kills him within a week or so. So far the only person to survive a bit is Maggie's father who had his leg chopped off. I think it's just safe to assume the body is in no shape to recover from a bite.

On March 18 2015 03:56 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Which brings up the major plot hole as to why they haven't picked up riot shields etc since the series started like in the comics.


They had them, but lost them I believe. It's not like Riot shields are just laying around everywhere all the time. I believe there's also an implication (even in the comics) that they can also be a bit of a liability because they reduce your mobility and don't really help if you get surrounded or have 20+ zombies smashing against the shield. The body armor itself also is hot and stifling which can be a problem if you have no source of fresh water.
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Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
March 18 2015 15:49 GMT
#9076
The way this season is ending up, I can only guess Deanna will decide to kick Rick out, and give everyone in Rick's group an ultimatum: Leave with Rick and never come back, or stay with the community. Though I'm not sure how much of a choice that really is, since everyone in the group is very close together, and would probably go anywhere Rick would go.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18012 Posts
March 18 2015 16:25 GMT
#9077
On March 19 2015 00:49 Cloud9157 wrote:
The way this season is ending up, I can only guess Deanna will decide to kick Rick out, and give everyone in Rick's group an ultimatum: Leave with Rick and never come back, or stay with the community. Though I'm not sure how much of a choice that really is, since everyone in the group is very close together, and would probably go anywhere Rick would go.

While that ultimatum may happen, I don't see Rick leaving over just staging a coupe and telling the rest of the community they can fall inline or be exiled (together with the bad apples who get no choice in the matter and will be exiled/shot anyway).
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
March 19 2015 02:34 GMT
#9078
On March 19 2015 01:25 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 00:49 Cloud9157 wrote:
The way this season is ending up, I can only guess Deanna will decide to kick Rick out, and give everyone in Rick's group an ultimatum: Leave with Rick and never come back, or stay with the community. Though I'm not sure how much of a choice that really is, since everyone in the group is very close together, and would probably go anywhere Rick would go.

While that ultimatum may happen, I don't see Rick leaving over just staging a coupe and telling the rest of the community they can fall inline or be exiled (together with the bad apples who get no choice in the matter and will be exiled/shot anyway).


This exactly. He even said it himself that if things don't work out, they will just take the place. These people obviously have no idea how to survive in this new world and it's amazing they haven't been wiped out alrdy.
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kwizach
Profile Joined June 2011
3658 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-19 02:40:10
March 19 2015 02:39 GMT
#9079
On March 18 2015 23:03 Acrofales wrote:
Of course things aren't going to go well! "And they all lived happily ever after" is some really really boring television :D

Ahah yeah, but I meant that there are different degrees of things going well or badly :p
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -- Stephen Colbert
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-19 03:39:12
March 19 2015 03:37 GMT
#9080
On March 18 2015 03:47 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2015 03:16 gsgfdf wrote:
Can someone explain why anyone would turn after getting bitten like Tyreese on episode 9? Everyone has the virus already and the wound from that bite was pretty small so he can easily recover from that bleeding.

Because whatever virus turns people in zombies becomes stronger once a body dies and then when it is transmited to someone it gives you a fever and you die soon after.


I thought it was rather that their saliva contains a shit ton of infectants. Even a nasty bite from a living human is known to cause infections, what more from a decomposing being.

And I would imagine that the virus in living humans is dormant and thus not infectious. Getting active viruses into your bloodstream from a walker bite are probably what causes the fatal fever.
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