EPTSo funny how noone calls them zombies so far... bitters, walkers or god knows what else lol.
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SkelA
Macedonia13076 Posts
So funny how noone calls them zombies so far... bitters, walkers or god knows what else lol. | ||
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ffadicted
United States3545 Posts
I'm pretty stoked about finding out where they go from here. Feb can't come fast enough *-* | ||
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Azza
China650 Posts
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Zax19
Czech Republic1136 Posts
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BeaSteR
Sweden328 Posts
However, I'm glad that the governor finally died, oh and the conclusion is: people don't change? It was so predictable. Some of the action scenes were cool... but what happened to: "we will not destroy our new home"? First they roll over the fence, then they completely destroy the wall into the prison, nut-jobs. How could they have morale to fight after the decapitation of a sane prisoner? So stupid. My problem is I can't stop watching the show, even though the quality is lower than it should be. It had so much potential!! F*cking AMC switching director. Frank Darabont would have done such a good job with the show. | ||
serum321
United States606 Posts
On December 02 2013 22:07 Crushinator wrote: I do believe we actually saw Carol kill one of the sick people. That was a reenactment in Rick's mind, not a for sure, real thing. On December 02 2013 15:40 Xapti wrote: Excellent episode, and yet rather predictable (although that didn't matter). The big issue I had with this episode though is how there was virtually no attempt by anyone from Rick's group (namely Hershel, Michonne, or Rick) to talk to the attackers and tell them about all the nonsense the governor has done. I don't think it would have been too far-fetched for someone on Rick's side to have asked if anyone was recently "mysteriously killed" since the governor was around, and/or where the heck the governor's old soldiers went. The governor probably shouldn't have been able to convince that crew to even be able to raid the prison, regardless of how bad the supposed residents are. I agree, that is what pissed me off about the final showdown the most. It is unrealistic to think these people would all be gung ho to die after just watching this new guy execute someone via beheading. Not to mention when the governor says to Rick, lets talk. Rick should be like, you wanna talk?, well lets talk about how you kidnapped two of our people, tortured them, nearly killed them and after we rescued them you attacked us with your previous camp and when they didn't fight back you murdered 20 of them in cold blood. After you tell them that and that anyone, besides the governor, is welcome to walk peacefully through the gate things might have turned out a little bit different. | ||
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zurg
1923 Posts
On December 02 2013 23:30 BeaSteR wrote: I have seen the whole show and have been hoping for it to get better. I guess anything is better than season 2, and this is definitely watchable. BUT the characters act so irrational. Why would the governor's group follow him and fight the prison? He has been there for what: maybe a week or a few months or something? They all act like sheep, no one (except the police girl but passively) questioning whether it is the right thing or even smart to attack a prison with people while there can be hoards of walkers outside where they attack. Then there is the part where Rick is talking to the Governor and the governor threatens to attack. Any normal person would here want to know the side of the people in the prison, about what the Governor did (He killed off a lot of the people that followed him before). Why would Rick not bring up what the Governor has done? At least he questioned if it was the right thing to do. I just think the characters are too shallow, it's not deep enough. However, I'm glad that the governor finally died, oh and the conclusion is: people don't change? It was so predictable. Some of the action scenes where cool... but what happened to: "we will not destroy our new home"? First they roll over the fence, then they completely destroy the wall into the prison, nut-jobs. How could they have morale to fight after the decapitation of a sane prisoner? So stupid. My problem is I can't stop watching the show, even though the quality is lower than it should be. It had so much potential!! F*cking AMC switching director. Frank Darabont would have done such a good job with the show. thank you  exactly how I see things and no idea why I just quit somehow I still hooked to the show | ||
Yhamm
France7248 Posts
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KadaverBB
Germany25658 Posts
 Fuck, lol I am actually sad right now. | ||
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dudeman001
United States2412 Posts
Can people understand why berating the boss is something a rational person would actually never do? In TWD we, as semi-omniscient observers, can see that Rick could probably sway the attackers by revealing the governor's past. But Rick has no idea how loyal these new people are to the governor. He has no idea how ruthless they are, how committed they are to slaughtering everyone. All he knows is the psychotic fucking governor has 2 of his best friends hostage right in front of him. Berating the boss would almost guarantee his friend's death, followed by the quick destruction of his only home. I found Rick's attempt at handling the attackers pretty well thought out for someone staring down a tank. And people have brought up that we don't know how long the governor has been with this group. Keep in mind that when this season began, the prison group seems to have been living in some kind of a routine for a while now. What if the governor found his new group even half-way through this time period? We don't know how much actual time the governor has spent with these new people, it could be months. All we know is how much screen time they've had. Perhaps that is a problem with the show, and they should have re-introduced the governor in earlier episodes so we become accustomed to his new life. But we can't honestly know how long the governor has been leading these people. Hell, in the prison attack at the end of season 3 Woodbury didn't have a tank. Now the governor has a tank. That could've taken a while to acquire. | ||
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Grettin
42394 Posts
Hershel, though. I'm glad many of my favorites seemed to survive tho. | ||
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Conti
Germany2516 Posts
Also, am I the only one who is dead tired of Rick's permanently anguished facial expression at this point? Honestly, by now I think the entire show would be more interesting if Rick would just die, allowing other characters to develop and act independent, instead of constantly waiting for Rick to tell them what to do. On December 02 2013 20:31 krndandaman wrote: could it be that one of the girls actually killed the 2 sick people and carol was just covering for them? That... would actually make sense and be kinda cool. | ||
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BeaSteR
Sweden328 Posts
On December 02 2013 23:59 dudeman001 wrote: A crime boss approaches you with his goons. He brings out your two best friends and starts demanding you give him everything you have. Can people understand why berating the boss is something a rational person would actually never do? In TWD we, as semi-omniscient observers, can see that Rick could probably sway the attackers by revealing the governor's past. But Rick has no idea how loyal these new people are to the governor. He has no idea how ruthless they are, how committed they are to slaughtering everyone. All he knows is the psychotic fucking governor has 2 of his best friends hostage right in front of him. Berating the boss would almost guarantee his friend's death, followed by the quick destruction of his only home. I found Rick's attempt at handling the attackers pretty well thought out for someone staring down a tank. It is true that he doesn't know how committed they are. I am arguing he would want to reveal things about the governor in order to sway the opinion of the attackers, at least make them question their relatively new leader. Even during an apocalypse I would not follow just the word of one man and put my life on the line for him. It's not like they aren't safe already, they have a tank for god's sake. They take a huge risk attacking a prison with heavily armed people (they didn't even assess their opponents before attacking, spying on them from afar only trusting the governor). And people have brought up that we don't know how long the governor has been with this group. Keep in mind that when this season began, the prison group seems to have been living in some kind of a routine for a while now. What if the governor found his new group even half-way through this time period? We don't know how much actual time the governor has spent with these new people, it could be months. All we know is how much screen time they've had. Perhaps that is a problem with the show, and they should have re-introduced the governor in earlier episodes so we become accustomed to his new life. But we can't honestly know how long the governor has been leading these people. Hell, in the prison attack at the end of season 3 Woodbury didn't have a tank. Now the governor has a tank. That could've taken a while to acquire. The tank was already in the camp when the governor joined the group. It could have been some time from when he joined them until they attacked but I think most people would agree it went quite fast from him joining, killing off the leader and becoming leader himself - to proposing an attack against a group of heavily armed people. Edit: How did that tank not hit a single target? Was it just handled by that one guy who jumped out when they threw in the grenade? Please they could work harder on those details! | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32132 Posts
The people follow the governor on his attack because having a fenced in building >> an open air camp where people still get attacked despite some light fencing and cars creating a perimeter. As has been shown with many characters over the course of the series, with society decay in full effect, there are more than enough people willing to do some shitty things to survive. In this case, willing to kill others to gain their shelter and supplies. The tank not hitting anything isn't exactly surprising. People far away are scurrying about. That's a hard target. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18277 Posts
But... action and zombies. And we're finally out of the jail. | ||
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serum321
United States606 Posts
On December 03 2013 00:28 QuanticHawk wrote: Honestly, the only thing that didn't make sense was the trampling of the fence after the whole premise of taking the building for shelter. Otherwise, everything made enough sense. The people follow the governor on his attack because having a fenced in building >> an open air camp where people still get attacked despite some light fencing and cars creating a perimeter. As has been shown with many characters over the course of the series, with society decay in full effect, there are more than enough people willing to do some shitty things to survive. In this case, willing to kill others to gain their shelter and supplies. The tank not hitting anything isn't exactly surprising. People far away are scurrying about. That's a hard target. I can't believe people who had been safe for quite some time where they were would be gung ho ready to die. It would have been the town's people all over again, as soon as shit started going down they would have said, wtf I didn't sign up for this, I was fine where I was and got the fuck out of dodge. The governor even led them there under the pretense that noone had to die. As soon as he executed someone via beheading more than just the one chick's sister should have been like, wait a minute here, this idiot is going to get us all killed. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32132 Posts
When he executed HErschel, they didn't exactly have time to think about whether or not it was fucked because Rick's group all opened fire. | ||
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BeaSteR
Sweden328 Posts
On December 03 2013 00:45 serum321 wrote: I can't believe people who had been safe for quite some time where they were would be gung ho ready to die. It would have been the town's people all over again, as soon as shit started going down they would have said, wtf I didn't sign up for this, I was fine where I was and got the fuck out of dodge. The governor even led them there under the pretense that noone had to die. As soon as he executed someone via beheading more than just the one chick's sister should have been like, wait a minute here, this idiot is going to get us all killed. Exactly my point. These people following the governor didn't know anything about the people in the prison other than what the governor had told them. | ||
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zurg
1923 Posts
how does it make any sense that they destroy the damn prison with a f*** tank? | ||
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Conti
Germany2516 Posts
On December 03 2013 00:49 QuanticHawk wrote: They weren't safe where they were. There was the zombie that wandered into camp and almost killed the one girl. Martinez died while in camp due to zombies. That guy who stepped up to lead died on a run or whatever he told them. Camp was certainly far from air tight and safe, and a prison with walls and two layers of fencing is going to be a hell of a lot more safe. There's plenty of motivation from that perspective. When he executed HErschel, they didn't exactly have time to think about whether or not it was fucked because Rick's group all opened fire. There was literally one zombie getting into their camp, and that was easily dealt with. Then there was a guy who supposedly fell into a death trap while drunk, which has nothing to do with the danger of zombies. And then there was a guy who supposedly died out on a food run, which, again, has nothing to do with the safety of their current location. Of course the prison is inherently more safe than their little trailer park. But these people did not seem like the kind that would immediately kill a large group if it meant that they would be safer. They were just a bunch of normal people trying to survive, more often than not preferring to cooperate than to fight, as has been shown in various scenes. Not to mention that the gov's plan was bloody stupid. A tank? What the hell was he trying to do with that? The tank could literally destroy the prison (which he sure as hell did not want destroyed) and nothing else. Well, and roll over the fence to destroy a vital defense point of the prison, I guess. Rick was right, fighting would (and did) lead to the prison becoming pretty much unusable. Surely the gov would have to take that into account? And so would have the other people? And realize that that plan of his was bloody stupid? And, y'know, maybe not blindly trust the gov in everything he says? Eh, whatever. He's dead. Prison's gone. It can only get better from here. | ||
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