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Discussing the show and past episodes is fine. Do not put things that have happened in the TV series in spoilers. However, don't spoil things from the books that may happen in future episodes. Put book spoilers in spoiler tags with a CLEAR WARNING that it is from the book.
r00ty
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1057 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-06 16:10:02
November 06 2012 16:06 GMT
#5041
On November 07 2012 00:51 Destro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 00:46 r00ty wrote:
Yeah of course it's just a TV show. But saying "The Walking Dead" is like the best TV show ever is just unfair. "The Wire" and "GoT" set the bar very high, maybe too high. "GoT" is also not perfect, but the acting omg. Anyone saying the acting and directing on "The Walking Dead" is on par with the likes of "Breaking Bad", "The Wire", "GoT" is just delusional.
Peter Dinklage, Lena Heady, Walter White, etc. compared to them, "The Walking Dead" cast is (with minor exceptions) on soap opera level. Most of the time it's the directors fault though imho.

I'm also a huge Zombie flick fan btw. And can just fully aggree with Dosey: A good Zombie film is not about goring through zombie hordes. "The Walking Dead" had a lot more potential and it's not as good as people make it seem to be. I'll keep watching, but i don't think it will improve.


For what its trying to achieve, its the best by far. Rivals nearly all zombie movies as well. You keep comparing it to completely different shows. For a zombie flick, it actually has the best acting. Trying really hard to think of a zombie flick with better acting,.. and failing miserably. Your points are valid. but irrelevant.

Breaking bad has better acting then sesamestreet, thus, breaking bad is the better children's tv show.


Zombieland, Dawn of the Dead (2004), Land of the Dead. No superb acting there either, still better than "The Walking Dead" cast. But Daryl/Norman Reedus is awesome, i give you that. Now don't tell me Zombieland doesn't count, it's a comedy. By your standard "The Walking Dead" is incomparable. There hasn't been a Zombie TV show, afaik. You gotta draw a line somewhere and to me it's just a TV show. With zombies.

I also laughed my ass off:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
"Are you gonna cry, little bitch?"


On November 07 2012 00:54 Probe1 wrote:
Seeing Game of Throne listed as the greatest television show ever kinda reminds me how young the average age on TL is :X


I didn't say that. Don't put words into my mouth please.
FeUerFlieGe
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1193 Posts
November 06 2012 16:11 GMT
#5042
I didn't have a problem with the acting. I rarely ever have. I found Rick's hysterical fit of crying to be very powerful. I think this is going to be a big turning point for him, where he goes bat-shit insane.
To unpathed waters, undreamed shores. - Shakespeare
kellymilkies
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore1393 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-06 16:20:35
November 06 2012 16:12 GMT
#5043
So sick of seeing Lori whine and be a bitch about everything. Thank f*** she's gone.
pretty sad her son had to take her out though.
But seriously in a "real" zombie world, why would you choose a newborn baby which will be considered a "liability" instead of a fully functional adult?
But then again lori is super dysfunctional.
Ok baby, good call.
Also cant stand michonne, she has this perma >: ( face. I bet her face muscles get all frozen after filming the episodes TT

PS: As we were watching the show on skype webcam together, when lori started saying "this is my c-section scar, cut it there blahblahblah" I pulled my shirt up , did the same thing and used a swiss knife pretending to do the scene as well. bf went bat shit crazy and was super freaked out. intense... lol.
Be the change you wish to see in the world ^-^V //
blug
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia623 Posts
November 06 2012 16:25 GMT
#5044
On November 07 2012 01:12 kellymilkies wrote:
So sick of seeing Lori whine and be a bitch about everything. Thank f*** she's gone.
pretty sad her son had to take her out though.
But seriously in a "real" zombie world, why would you choose a newborn baby which will be considered a "liability" instead of a fully functional adult?
But then again lori is super dysfunctional.
Ok baby, good call.
Also cant stand michonne, she has this perma >: ( face. I bet her face muscles get all frozen after filming the episodes TT

PS: As we were watching the show on skype webcam together, when lori started saying "this is my c-section scar, cut it there blahblahblah" I pulled my shirt up , did the same thing and used a swiss knife pretending to do the scene as well. bf went bat shit crazy and was super freaked out. intense... lol.


If you were a parent you would understand why you would choose the child.

I agree about Michonne, she looks retarded.
Derp
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
November 06 2012 16:27 GMT
#5045
On November 07 2012 00:51 Destro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 00:46 r00ty wrote:
Yeah of course it's just a TV show. But saying "The Walking Dead" is like the best TV show ever is just unfair. "The Wire" and "GoT" set the bar very high, maybe too high. "GoT" is also not perfect, but the acting omg. Anyone saying the acting and directing on "The Walking Dead" is on par with the likes of "Breaking Bad", "The Wire", "GoT" is just delusional.
Peter Dinklage, Lena Heady, Walter White, etc. compared to them, "The Walking Dead" cast is (with minor exceptions) on soap opera level. Most of the time it's the directors fault though imho.

I'm also a huge Zombie flick fan btw. And can just fully aggree with Dosey: A good Zombie film is not about goring through zombie hordes. "The Walking Dead" had a lot more potential and it's not as good as people make it seem to be. I'll keep watching, but i don't think it will improve.


For what its trying to achieve, its the best by far. Rivals nearly all zombie movies as well. You keep comparing it to completely different shows. For a zombie flick, it actually has the best acting. Trying really hard to think of a zombie flick with better acting,.. and failing miserably. Your points are valid. but irrelevant.

Breaking bad has better acting then sesamestreet, thus, breaking bad is the better children's tv show.

You're failing to get the point that this isn't just a zombie genre show. This is more a post-apocalyptic show with a zombie twist. You can replace the zombies with anything in this context; aliens, disease, electricity, nazis, dinosaurs, monsters, whatever. That's just the plot device used to put them in this world and remind them that they are always at risk of death and never safe. It's nothing different from Falling Skies, Revolution, etc... The only thing making it more popular is the fact that they chose zombies and people love zombies. That doesn't mean this show should be compared just to Zombie flicks and not held up to the standard of other shows that it can rival if executed correctly.
kellymilkies
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore1393 Posts
November 06 2012 16:32 GMT
#5046
On November 07 2012 01:25 blug wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 01:12 kellymilkies wrote:
So sick of seeing Lori whine and be a bitch about everything. Thank f*** she's gone.
pretty sad her son had to take her out though.
But seriously in a "real" zombie world, why would you choose a newborn baby which will be considered a "liability" instead of a fully functional adult?
But then again lori is super dysfunctional.
Ok baby, good call.
Also cant stand michonne, she has this perma >: ( face. I bet her face muscles get all frozen after filming the episodes TT

PS: As we were watching the show on skype webcam together, when lori started saying "this is my c-section scar, cut it there blahblahblah" I pulled my shirt up , did the same thing and used a swiss knife pretending to do the scene as well. bf went bat shit crazy and was super freaked out. intense... lol.


If you were a parent you would understand why you would choose the child.

I agree about Michonne, she looks retarded.


I am a parent. I have a 3 year old daughter, but we are talking about zombies.
On one hand, if you bring the baby out to this world, you are exposing him or her to this... shit. where you get chased all the time, half to sleep with your eyes half open, have to kill your mom to make sure she doesnt turn into a zombie, possibly get eaten up.l
On the other hand, most people I know are pro-life.. so I can see their point i guess. Everyone deserves a chance, blahblah, babies are part of the new future in case you need to re populate after zombies clear out. I get it!!
But i'm just saying.

As for Michonne..she's like kristen stewart in the walking dead. singular face. except this show is about zombies not vampires...
thought: can you be both a zombie and vampire?!?!
Be the change you wish to see in the world ^-^V //
Destro
Profile Joined September 2009
Netherlands1206 Posts
November 06 2012 16:43 GMT
#5047
On November 07 2012 01:27 Dosey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 00:51 Destro wrote:
On November 07 2012 00:46 r00ty wrote:
Yeah of course it's just a TV show. But saying "The Walking Dead" is like the best TV show ever is just unfair. "The Wire" and "GoT" set the bar very high, maybe too high. "GoT" is also not perfect, but the acting omg. Anyone saying the acting and directing on "The Walking Dead" is on par with the likes of "Breaking Bad", "The Wire", "GoT" is just delusional.
Peter Dinklage, Lena Heady, Walter White, etc. compared to them, "The Walking Dead" cast is (with minor exceptions) on soap opera level. Most of the time it's the directors fault though imho.

I'm also a huge Zombie flick fan btw. And can just fully aggree with Dosey: A good Zombie film is not about goring through zombie hordes. "The Walking Dead" had a lot more potential and it's not as good as people make it seem to be. I'll keep watching, but i don't think it will improve.


For what its trying to achieve, its the best by far. Rivals nearly all zombie movies as well. You keep comparing it to completely different shows. For a zombie flick, it actually has the best acting. Trying really hard to think of a zombie flick with better acting,.. and failing miserably. Your points are valid. but irrelevant.

Breaking bad has better acting then sesamestreet, thus, breaking bad is the better children's tv show.

You're failing to get the point that this isn't just a zombie genre show. This is more a post-apocalyptic show with a zombie twist. You can replace the zombies with anything in this context; aliens, disease, electricity, nazis, dinosaurs, monsters, whatever. That's just the plot device used to put them in this world and remind them that they are always at risk of death and never safe. It's nothing different from Falling Skies, Revolution, etc... The only thing making it more popular is the fact that they chose zombies and people love zombies. That doesn't mean this show should be compared just to Zombie flicks and not held up to the standard of other shows that it can rival if executed correctly.


I disagree. As a big fan of Romero's work, its impossible to not see a HUGE influence in this show.
bring back weapon of choice for hots!
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
November 06 2012 16:51 GMT
#5048
On November 06 2012 21:31 Left4Cookies wrote:
I think The Walking Dead is some of the best television made in my 21yr life, and I can't fathom how some people in here think it's bad, not out of taste (since you obviously like this kind of show since you've stuck for almost 3 seasons) but out of bad writing, acting, etc.

How can that be? Am I just easier to entertain or do you have REALLY STEEP expectations for a show like this?

Oh, and I cried at the end of this episode like a little girl losing her dog.


The star wars prequals were horribly written story-wise but still had good visuals for the masses and by it being part of the star wars franchise people watched all 3 regardless of how shitty the story was written.

Season 2 of TWD was like the prequals of the star wars trilogy. Lori's character being so horrible in the tv series is due to the bad writting done to create season 2. Season 3 has so far been MUCH better (partially because they went back to source material of what makes TWD such a good series with its dark atmosphere, instead of soap opera drama bs of lori) and to really improve it you gotta remove old remnants of what made the story so bad in the previous season. That would include getting rid of lori, who essetially embodies how bad the writting used to be to make such a horrible character, and even tdog who added literally nothing to the story.

You have to give the season 3 writers props. They took a shitty character and a useless character and actually made us emotionally attached to their deaths. It was done a lot better than the sophia plot in season 2 where nobody actually cared.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
November 06 2012 17:04 GMT
#5049
On November 07 2012 01:43 Destro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 01:27 Dosey wrote:
On November 07 2012 00:51 Destro wrote:
On November 07 2012 00:46 r00ty wrote:
Yeah of course it's just a TV show. But saying "The Walking Dead" is like the best TV show ever is just unfair. "The Wire" and "GoT" set the bar very high, maybe too high. "GoT" is also not perfect, but the acting omg. Anyone saying the acting and directing on "The Walking Dead" is on par with the likes of "Breaking Bad", "The Wire", "GoT" is just delusional.
Peter Dinklage, Lena Heady, Walter White, etc. compared to them, "The Walking Dead" cast is (with minor exceptions) on soap opera level. Most of the time it's the directors fault though imho.

I'm also a huge Zombie flick fan btw. And can just fully aggree with Dosey: A good Zombie film is not about goring through zombie hordes. "The Walking Dead" had a lot more potential and it's not as good as people make it seem to be. I'll keep watching, but i don't think it will improve.


For what its trying to achieve, its the best by far. Rivals nearly all zombie movies as well. You keep comparing it to completely different shows. For a zombie flick, it actually has the best acting. Trying really hard to think of a zombie flick with better acting,.. and failing miserably. Your points are valid. but irrelevant.

Breaking bad has better acting then sesamestreet, thus, breaking bad is the better children's tv show.

You're failing to get the point that this isn't just a zombie genre show. This is more a post-apocalyptic show with a zombie twist. You can replace the zombies with anything in this context; aliens, disease, electricity, nazis, dinosaurs, monsters, whatever. That's just the plot device used to put them in this world and remind them that they are always at risk of death and never safe. It's nothing different from Falling Skies, Revolution, etc... The only thing making it more popular is the fact that they chose zombies and people love zombies. That doesn't mean this show should be compared just to Zombie flicks and not held up to the standard of other shows that it can rival if executed correctly.


I disagree. As a big fan of Romero's work, its impossible to not see a HUGE influence in this show.

Influence in the show does not change the fact that your opinion is very much wrong. Read the comics. Zombies are only used to establish that the world isn't safe anymore. Every time they get a false sense of security, zombies will rear their ugly head to remind them that the world is still out there (see Atlanta Camp, Hershel's Farm, The Prison) . Everything else is about the human element. What are the lengths we will go to protect ourselves? Our loved ones? What beliefs do we abandon and what do we truly value when there is nothing left to guide us? What do we turn into at the end of a lawless, godless world? What of the evil of others? How do we deal with them? How do we trust outsiders? How do we rebuild in such a world devoid of trust and morals? Do we even rebuild, or remain ignorant and isolated?

Things are so much deeper in this world, and to hold it to the mediocre standards of 2 hr flicks that have been growing increasingly worse over the years is just absurd.
mythandier
Profile Joined January 2011
United States828 Posts
November 06 2012 17:05 GMT
#5050
On November 07 2012 01:32 kellymilkies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 01:25 blug wrote:
On November 07 2012 01:12 kellymilkies wrote:
So sick of seeing Lori whine and be a bitch about everything. Thank f*** she's gone.
pretty sad her son had to take her out though.
But seriously in a "real" zombie world, why would you choose a newborn baby which will be considered a "liability" instead of a fully functional adult?
But then again lori is super dysfunctional.
Ok baby, good call.
Also cant stand michonne, she has this perma >: ( face. I bet her face muscles get all frozen after filming the episodes TT

PS: As we were watching the show on skype webcam together, when lori started saying "this is my c-section scar, cut it there blahblahblah" I pulled my shirt up , did the same thing and used a swiss knife pretending to do the scene as well. bf went bat shit crazy and was super freaked out. intense... lol.


If you were a parent you would understand why you would choose the child.

I agree about Michonne, she looks retarded.


I am a parent. I have a 3 year old daughter, but we are talking about zombies.
On one hand, if you bring the baby out to this world, you are exposing him or her to this... shit. where you get chased all the time, half to sleep with your eyes half open, have to kill your mom to make sure she doesnt turn into a zombie, possibly get eaten up.l
On the other hand, most people I know are pro-life.. so I can see their point i guess. Everyone deserves a chance, blahblah, babies are part of the new future in case you need to re populate after zombies clear out. I get it!!
But i'm just saying.

As for Michonne..she's like kristen stewart in the walking dead. singular face. except this show is about zombies not vampires...
thought: can you be both a zombie and vampire?!?!

Hey Kelly, still casting games?

I thought the baby scene was a little bit silly, I'd have been more inclined to let Carl at least look out into the hall to see if it was clear to run for help. For them to not insist to try and save both was a bit far fetched for me.

On another note, I really can't wait until a walker eats Andrea's face. She has annoyed me since day one and now that she's got her own little story line going...I just want her to die already, more than anyone.

As to your question, Kelly, about zombie vampires....let me present:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
November 06 2012 17:14 GMT
#5051
On November 07 2012 01:11 FeUerFlieGe wrote:
I didn't have a problem with the acting. I rarely ever have. I found Rick's hysterical fit of crying to be very powerful. I think this is going to be a big turning point for him, where he goes bat-shit insane.


I think if you were watching in a group setting, you may find it a bit more ridiculous. I agree though, I thought it was rather moving in a very Southern Gothic style.

Also T Dogg, something had to happen, something did. @__@
Destro
Profile Joined September 2009
Netherlands1206 Posts
November 06 2012 17:18 GMT
#5052
On November 07 2012 02:04 Dosey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 01:43 Destro wrote:
On November 07 2012 01:27 Dosey wrote:
On November 07 2012 00:51 Destro wrote:
On November 07 2012 00:46 r00ty wrote:
Yeah of course it's just a TV show. But saying "The Walking Dead" is like the best TV show ever is just unfair. "The Wire" and "GoT" set the bar very high, maybe too high. "GoT" is also not perfect, but the acting omg. Anyone saying the acting and directing on "The Walking Dead" is on par with the likes of "Breaking Bad", "The Wire", "GoT" is just delusional.
Peter Dinklage, Lena Heady, Walter White, etc. compared to them, "The Walking Dead" cast is (with minor exceptions) on soap opera level. Most of the time it's the directors fault though imho.

I'm also a huge Zombie flick fan btw. And can just fully aggree with Dosey: A good Zombie film is not about goring through zombie hordes. "The Walking Dead" had a lot more potential and it's not as good as people make it seem to be. I'll keep watching, but i don't think it will improve.


For what its trying to achieve, its the best by far. Rivals nearly all zombie movies as well. You keep comparing it to completely different shows. For a zombie flick, it actually has the best acting. Trying really hard to think of a zombie flick with better acting,.. and failing miserably. Your points are valid. but irrelevant.

Breaking bad has better acting then sesamestreet, thus, breaking bad is the better children's tv show.

You're failing to get the point that this isn't just a zombie genre show. This is more a post-apocalyptic show with a zombie twist. You can replace the zombies with anything in this context; aliens, disease, electricity, nazis, dinosaurs, monsters, whatever. That's just the plot device used to put them in this world and remind them that they are always at risk of death and never safe. It's nothing different from Falling Skies, Revolution, etc... The only thing making it more popular is the fact that they chose zombies and people love zombies. That doesn't mean this show should be compared just to Zombie flicks and not held up to the standard of other shows that it can rival if executed correctly.


I disagree. As a big fan of Romero's work, its impossible to not see a HUGE influence in this show.

Influence in the show does not change the fact that your opinion is very much wrong. Read the comics. Zombies are only used to establish that the world isn't safe anymore. Every time they get a false sense of security, zombies will rear their ugly head to remind them that the world is still out there (see Atlanta Camp, Hershel's Farm, The Prison) . Everything else is about the human element. What are the lengths we will go to protect ourselves? Our loved ones? What beliefs do we abandon and what do we truly value when there is nothing left to guide us? What do we turn into at the end of a lawless, godless world? What of the evil of others? How do we deal with them? How do we trust outsiders? How do we rebuild in such a world devoid of trust and morals? Do we even rebuild, or remain ignorant and isolated?

Things are so much deeper in this world, and to hold it to the mediocre standards of 2 hr flicks that have been growing increasingly worse over the years is just absurd.


stop ruining walking dead for me ;(


bring back weapon of choice for hots!
tehemperorer
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2183 Posts
November 06 2012 17:23 GMT
#5053
On November 07 2012 01:32 kellymilkies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 01:25 blug wrote:
On November 07 2012 01:12 kellymilkies wrote:
So sick of seeing Lori whine and be a bitch about everything. Thank f*** she's gone.
pretty sad her son had to take her out though.
But seriously in a "real" zombie world, why would you choose a newborn baby which will be considered a "liability" instead of a fully functional adult?
But then again lori is super dysfunctional.
Ok baby, good call.
Also cant stand michonne, she has this perma >: ( face. I bet her face muscles get all frozen after filming the episodes TT

PS: As we were watching the show on skype webcam together, when lori started saying "this is my c-section scar, cut it there blahblahblah" I pulled my shirt up , did the same thing and used a swiss knife pretending to do the scene as well. bf went bat shit crazy and was super freaked out. intense... lol.


If you were a parent you would understand why you would choose the child.

I agree about Michonne, she looks retarded.


I am a parent. I have a 3 year old daughter, but we are talking about zombies.
On one hand, if you bring the baby out to this world, you are exposing him or her to this... shit. where you get chased all the time, half to sleep with your eyes half open, have to kill your mom to make sure she doesnt turn into a zombie, possibly get eaten up.l
On the other hand, most people I know are pro-life.. so I can see their point i guess. Everyone deserves a chance, blahblah, babies are part of the new future in case you need to re populate after zombies clear out. I get it!!
But i'm just saying.

As for Michonne..she's like kristen stewart in the walking dead. singular face. except this show is about zombies not vampires...
thought: can you be both a zombie and vampire?!?!

Cool I'm a parent too, but both are younger
Seemed that Lori was pretty adamant about having the baby since I think she knew she was going to die either way (if she gave birth or they had to remove the child), I was sad for the moment but not for the character haha, that whole thing with getting mad at Rick for blowing Shane away after she had basically sanctioned the killing was a head-scratcher.

Yes Michonne is certainly one-sided, but I buy into the story so it doesn't bother me much. I think I would've boned out already if I were her, especially after finding out what she did.
Knowing is half the battle... the other half is lasers.
tehemperorer
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2183 Posts
November 06 2012 17:25 GMT
#5054
On November 07 2012 02:14 ThomasjServo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 01:11 FeUerFlieGe wrote:
I didn't have a problem with the acting. I rarely ever have. I found Rick's hysterical fit of crying to be very powerful. I think this is going to be a big turning point for him, where he goes bat-shit insane.


I think if you were watching in a group setting, you may find it a bit more ridiculous. I agree though, I thought it was rather moving in a very Southern Gothic style.

Also T Dogg, something had to happen, something did. @__@

Depends on the group. If one person doesn't buy in, then the others that feel safer following suit will do so, even if they would have done otherwise if watching it by themselves; that's just human nature and it isn't really indicative of the quality of acting.
Knowing is half the battle... the other half is lasers.
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
November 06 2012 17:31 GMT
#5055
How in the hell did that black dude survive...
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
November 06 2012 17:37 GMT
#5056
On November 07 2012 02:18 Destro wrote:
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On November 07 2012 02:04 Dosey wrote:
On November 07 2012 01:43 Destro wrote:
On November 07 2012 01:27 Dosey wrote:
On November 07 2012 00:51 Destro wrote:
On November 07 2012 00:46 r00ty wrote:
Yeah of course it's just a TV show. But saying "The Walking Dead" is like the best TV show ever is just unfair. "The Wire" and "GoT" set the bar very high, maybe too high. "GoT" is also not perfect, but the acting omg. Anyone saying the acting and directing on "The Walking Dead" is on par with the likes of "Breaking Bad", "The Wire", "GoT" is just delusional.
Peter Dinklage, Lena Heady, Walter White, etc. compared to them, "The Walking Dead" cast is (with minor exceptions) on soap opera level. Most of the time it's the directors fault though imho.

I'm also a huge Zombie flick fan btw. And can just fully aggree with Dosey: A good Zombie film is not about goring through zombie hordes. "The Walking Dead" had a lot more potential and it's not as good as people make it seem to be. I'll keep watching, but i don't think it will improve.


For what its trying to achieve, its the best by far. Rivals nearly all zombie movies as well. You keep comparing it to completely different shows. For a zombie flick, it actually has the best acting. Trying really hard to think of a zombie flick with better acting,.. and failing miserably. Your points are valid. but irrelevant.

Breaking bad has better acting then sesamestreet, thus, breaking bad is the better children's tv show.

You're failing to get the point that this isn't just a zombie genre show. This is more a post-apocalyptic show with a zombie twist. You can replace the zombies with anything in this context; aliens, disease, electricity, nazis, dinosaurs, monsters, whatever. That's just the plot device used to put them in this world and remind them that they are always at risk of death and never safe. It's nothing different from Falling Skies, Revolution, etc... The only thing making it more popular is the fact that they chose zombies and people love zombies. That doesn't mean this show should be compared just to Zombie flicks and not held up to the standard of other shows that it can rival if executed correctly.


I disagree. As a big fan of Romero's work, its impossible to not see a HUGE influence in this show.

Influence in the show does not change the fact that your opinion is very much wrong. Read the comics. Zombies are only used to establish that the world isn't safe anymore. Every time they get a false sense of security, zombies will rear their ugly head to remind them that the world is still out there (see Atlanta Camp, Hershel's Farm, The Prison) . Everything else is about the human element. What are the lengths we will go to protect ourselves? Our loved ones? What beliefs do we abandon and what do we truly value when there is nothing left to guide us? What do we turn into at the end of a lawless, godless world? What of the evil of others? How do we deal with them? How do we trust outsiders? How do we rebuild in such a world devoid of trust and morals? Do we even rebuild, or remain ignorant and isolated?

Things are so much deeper in this world, and to hold it to the mediocre standards of 2 hr flicks that have been growing increasingly worse over the years is just absurd.


stop ruining walking dead for me ;(



I'm not trying to ruin the show... I'm just saying that we shouldn't lower the bar to B-movie standards because the show happens to have a popular B-movie twist
Aldehyde
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Sweden939 Posts
November 06 2012 17:47 GMT
#5057
This show is really starting to annoy me. They're trying to do this drama driven story where the zombies are more of a background than anything but since they're failing to do anything cool with that they're also failing to just do the zombie killing right.

It's incredibly frustrating to watch.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
November 06 2012 17:48 GMT
#5058
On November 07 2012 02:25 tehemperorer wrote:
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On November 07 2012 02:14 ThomasjServo wrote:
On November 07 2012 01:11 FeUerFlieGe wrote:
I didn't have a problem with the acting. I rarely ever have. I found Rick's hysterical fit of crying to be very powerful. I think this is going to be a big turning point for him, where he goes bat-shit insane.


I think if you were watching in a group setting, you may find it a bit more ridiculous. I agree though, I thought it was rather moving in a very Southern Gothic style.

Also T Dogg, something had to happen, something did. @__@

Depends on the group. If one person doesn't buy in, then the others that feel safer following suit will do so, even if they would have done otherwise if watching it by themselves; that's just human nature and it isn't really indicative of the quality of acting.



That was all I really meant by it, my girlfriend ruined the moment for me on that one last night.
mythandier
Profile Joined January 2011
United States828 Posts
November 06 2012 18:00 GMT
#5059
On November 07 2012 02:48 ThomasjServo wrote:
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On November 07 2012 02:25 tehemperorer wrote:
On November 07 2012 02:14 ThomasjServo wrote:
On November 07 2012 01:11 FeUerFlieGe wrote:
I didn't have a problem with the acting. I rarely ever have. I found Rick's hysterical fit of crying to be very powerful. I think this is going to be a big turning point for him, where he goes bat-shit insane.


I think if you were watching in a group setting, you may find it a bit more ridiculous. I agree though, I thought it was rather moving in a very Southern Gothic style.

Also T Dogg, something had to happen, something did. @__@

Depends on the group. If one person doesn't buy in, then the others that feel safer following suit will do so, even if they would have done otherwise if watching it by themselves; that's just human nature and it isn't really indicative of the quality of acting.



That was all I really meant by it, my girlfriend ruined the moment for me on that one last night.

My wife broke down last night when we watched it and that caused me to tear up as well.
Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
November 06 2012 18:01 GMT
#5060
hey, i fucking shed a tear when both characters died, and i looked over at my fiancee and she was doing the same. Tdog going down was just sad, i know he wasn't the most developed character, but he went down for a purpose and was always a useful person in the group, seeing him get ripped apart trying to save Carol is something remnant of a 'good world', something that is forgotten in this apocalyptic world where it's every man for himself. Sure you see people risk themselves all the time, but rarely do you ever see someone outright throw themselves to save another. You could argue that he was dead already because of the previous bite which gave him more courage, but in this show, we've seen sad whiny people beg for life rather than do what's necessary. I dunno, something about just how he pulled through to save Carol (unconfirmed I suppose) gives me respect to Tdog.

When Lori died, I was equally hurt because she was doing something selfless for her child. People just like to rag on how much they hated her acting etc, but I dunno, since I never hated her acting so much as her character at times, I knew she was going to die, but wanted to see how, and the way they did it was just tragic. To have her own son there, to have him ultimately be the one to put her down. To basically give her life to create another. There's so much going on from a deeper level than you normally see in a zombie movie that it's heart wrenching to see people have to make these decisions. People who haven't lost someone close to them, TRULY close to them, I don't think fully understand the emotion that Rick was going through. When I lost someone truly close to me, i literally collapse on the floor like he did and screamed at the top of my lungs, god why (i'm atheist) and let out a long Nooooooooo. Call it bad acting, but it's a real emotion and true reaction to losing someone who you've loved most of your life, the mother of your children, no matter how mad you are at her.

Sometimes I just feel like the people who post in this thread are here to post hate and vitriol because they have nothing better to do, but incite the shared hatred of others, while those of us who genuinely like the show have no way to fight back because ultimately it's everyone's own opinion of the acting/writing/casting/etc. That or the general population really are more heartless and coldblooded than I'd like to believe. Jeez people.
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