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necmon
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Dosey
United States4505 Posts
On November 06 2012 21:31 Left4Cookies wrote: I think The Walking Dead is some of the best television made in my 21yr life, and I can't fathom how some people in here think it's bad, not out of taste (since you obviously like this kind of show since you've stuck for almost 3 seasons) but out of bad writing, acting, etc. How can that be? Am I just easier to entertain or do you have REALLY STEEP expectations for a show like this? Oh, and I cried at the end of this episode like a little girl losing her dog. This show doesn't even compare to the likes of Breaking Bad, The Wire, Boardwalk Empire, etc. The acting is sub par, the drama is somewhat forced, and the fact that they veered so far away from the source material makes it widely disliked by fans of the comic. I'm not saying that if you veer away from the source material that it is automatically bad, Game of Thrones has a lot of original content and cut scenes when compared to the book but still manage to create a fantastic TV series. There's just something... off with the writing for this series. Very... bleh... and very predictable. | ||
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Left4Cookies
Denmark803 Posts
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Vesimias
Finland135 Posts
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loiop
34 Posts
On November 06 2012 21:31 Left4Cookies wrote: I think The Walking Dead is some of the best television made in my 21yr life, and I can't fathom how some people in here think it's bad, not out of taste (since you obviously like this kind of show since you've stuck for almost 3 seasons) but out of bad writing, acting, etc. How can that be? Am I just easier to entertain or do you have REALLY STEEP expectations for a show like this? Oh, and I cried at the end of this episode like a little girl losing her dog. Well here's my opinion. There are no interesting characters on this show, all of them have this boring stigma around them. Writing was extremely bad at season 2. I mean they just sat half of the season at the farm and absolutely nothing happened. Season 1 wasn't that good either and it was filled with lots of pointless and extremely boring drama, and both seasons, or atleast season 2, had very slow plot development as well. I'm not sure who to blame more, the writers or the comic as I have not read any of it. On the other hand the show is about zombie apocalypse and surviving so it's some what interesting for me. I've always loved zombie related and post-apocalyptic movies. Also there aren't that many tv series anyway that are worth the time or relaxing to watch before falling asleep so i'll keep watching but I just can't get over the fact that the characters are so damn boring. | ||
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TsoBadGuy
United States221 Posts
They really increased the level of zombie killing, the drama is alright, but the pick up in action is so very welcome. I'm glad they're at a time in the plot where everyone doesn't freak right the fuck out when they see a zombie. They've come to terms with zombies being a fact of life. I feel a lot more immersed that way. I'm really just trying to live in the zombie world.  And personally, I am glad they strayed so far from the source material. So many good plot points done differently. -COMIC SPOILERS- + Show Spoiler + Carl killing Shane, Completely different characters, Andrea being recognized as a natural sharpshooter, Andrea and Dale are lovers, Blackberry/Governor saga, Lori being shot after childbirth and falling on her newborn. Tyreese and his daughter's saga. I also like anime and manga a lot, so it's nice to see so many liberties taken. In Kuroko No Basket the dog comes a little sooner, with Naruto you occasionally get filler that isn't in manga. But with this you get so much extra content. Although I am sad the Redneck with the Crossbow and Tyreese will never meet. | ||
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r00ty
Germany1057 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Fits quite well: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/nWYKq.png) There's just more slashing in Season 3. I could go into details, but maybe you should think about a nicer way to adress your fellow forum members with different opinions. Thanks. | ||
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mythandier
United States828 Posts
His reaction to the events at the end of the last episode was remarkable. This coming from someone who lost someone very close to me recently and reacted almost identically (granted the circumstances were slightly different). User was warned for this post | ||
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Arkless
Canada1547 Posts
On November 06 2012 22:04 Dosey wrote: This show doesn't even compare to the likes of Breaking Bad, The Wire, Boardwalk Empire, etc. The acting is sub par, the drama is somewhat forced, and the fact that they veered so far away from the source material makes it widely disliked by fans of the comic. I'm not saying that if you veer away from the source material that it is automatically bad, Game of Thrones has a lot of original content and cut scenes when compared to the book but still manage to create a fantastic TV series. There's just something... off with the writing for this series. Very... bleh... and very predictable. That's like comparing a steak to a hot dog. Steak will always be a better cut of meat ( The Wire, BB, never seen boardwalk) But a hotdog is fucking good too. And sometimes, you just want a hotdog. It's kind of unfair, and ridiculous to compare TWD to any show, other than another zombie show. You could argue comparing the wire, to BB as they are both drug related shows, involving cops etc. But to compare a zombie apocalypse show, to a show (the best show ever) about the Baltimore drug/cop scene is on par with comparing the bible, to "everyone poops" Edit: I don't know how any of you "cried" at the end of the episode. I was literally laughing my ass off. Lauries birth was kind of a joke, and Rick crying at the end. WAS HILARIOUS! When he turned to Carl and did the whole "Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo" right in his face, I fucking laughed. Hard. | ||
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Dosey
United States4505 Posts
On November 06 2012 23:22 Arkless wrote: That's like comparing a steak to a hot dog. Steak will always be a better cut of meat ( The Wire, BB, never seen boardwalk) But a hotdog is fucking good too. And sometimes, you just want a hotdog. It's kind of unfair, and ridiculous to compare TWD to any show, other than another zombie show. You could argue comparing the wire, to BB as they are both drug related shows, involving cops etc. But to compare a zombie apocalypse show, to a show (the best show ever) about the Baltimore drug/cop scene is on par with comparing the bible, to "everyone poops" The thing is... this show isn't supposed to be your typical zombie genre turd (a genre which has become a parody of itself in recent years). This show is about the human element, and the effect a post-apocalyptic world over run with zombies on the human psyche. What happens when we're in an "every man for himself" situation and the lengths we will go for that "self". That's what I'm watching the show for. Not OTT zombie kills that I can find in any Zombie flick post-Romero era or OTT drama that's so forced, I feel like I'm watching a bad Spanish Soap. I want the nitty gritty, the devolution of Rick and co into sadistic stone cold killers who can't trust anyone. Not "OHMAGERD DER BABIE NEEDS MERLK!" It's like the show was a steak, somehow permanently transfigured itself into a hotdog, and is now trying to become a steak again. Just not working... | ||
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Destro
Netherlands1206 Posts
I can't fathom why people try to comment on things like writing/directing/acting in a goddamn zombie show. As a large fan of zombie flicks, this show is the answer to what i hoped for, for many many years. TV acting has always been shit. sorry if im being a conceited film enthusiast, but if you are watching tv for that sort of thing you are silly. Its like transformers.. how can you complain about bad acting/writing in a movie about giant fighting robots? Just as you cant go into a show about a zombie apocolypse. the show is about human survival in a zombie apocolypse and it bloody well delivers. Get over yourself.. enjoy it for what it is. Then again, everyone wants to be a critic... i just laugh at people's attempt to critique elements of something that isn't the focus of the subject matter anyways. It's television after all... back on topic, the last episode was AWESOME. edge of my seat the entire time. really interested to see what happens with merl/the governor. Rick is going to go insane and chop a lot of zombie heads and i wouldn't be surprised to see another survivor die because of it. Speaking of which, what happened to the short haired woman? After this episode, i would be surprised if even half of the core survivors even live to see the end of the season. | ||
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
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ZaplinG
United States3818 Posts
Poll: Who will be the next to go? Axel (7) Beth (2) Rick (1) Merle (1) Maggie (1) Oscar (1) Carl (0) Hershel (0) Glenn (0) Daryl (0) Andrea (0) Michonne (0) 13 total votes Your vote: Who will be the next to go? (Vote): Rick | ||
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Dosey
United States4505 Posts
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r00ty
Germany1057 Posts
Peter Dinklage, Lena Heady, Walter White, etc. compared to them, "The Walking Dead" cast is (with minor exceptions) on soap opera level. Most of the time it's the directors fault though imho. I'm also a huge Zombie flick fan btw. And can just fully aggree with Dosey: A good Zombie film is not about goring through zombie hordes. "The Walking Dead" had a lot more potential and it's not as good as people make it seem to be. I'll keep watching, but i don't think it will improve. | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
On November 06 2012 22:30 Vesimias wrote: I share the opinions of Lori dying with everyone, I didn't really like the character. When Dale died I admit I cried, but when Lori died, I was sad, but I didn't even shed a tear, won't miss her at all. But Tdog dying made me upset, but I guess I should've seen that coming... Apparently my sister and I are freaks because we were practically smiling when nosy ass Dale died. Actually, no deaths in the show could possibly bother us unless Daryl died. That'd suck hard. Actually, this ties into the other discussion going on. We can't take the show too seriously because we don't take the acting that seriously. And the dialogue. | ||
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Destro
Netherlands1206 Posts
On November 07 2012 00:46 r00ty wrote: Yeah of course it's just a TV show. But saying "The Walking Dead" is like the best TV show ever is just unfair. "The Wire" and "GoT" set the bar very high, maybe too high. "GoT" is also not perfect, but the acting omg. Anyone saying the acting and directing on "The Walking Dead" is on par with the likes of "Breaking Bad", "The Wire", "GoT" is just delusional. Peter Dinklage, Lena Heady, Walter White, etc. compared to them, "The Walking Dead" cast is (with minor exceptions) on soap opera level. Most of the time it's the directors fault though imho. I'm also a huge Zombie flick fan btw. And can just fully aggree with Dosey: A good Zombie film is not about goring through zombie hordes. "The Walking Dead" had a lot more potential and it's not as good as people make it seem to be. I'll keep watching, but i don't think it will improve. For what its trying to achieve, its the best by far. Rivals nearly all zombie movies as well. You keep comparing it to completely different shows. For a zombie flick, it actually has the best acting. Trying really hard to think of a zombie flick with better acting,.. and failing miserably. Your points are valid. but irrelevant. Breaking bad has better acting then sesamestreet, thus, breaking bad is the better children's tv show. | ||
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
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Vesimias
Finland135 Posts
On November 07 2012 00:47 Probe1 wrote: Apparently my sister and I are freaks because we were practically smiling when nosy ass Dale died. Actually, no deaths in the show could possibly bother us unless Daryl died. That'd suck hard. Actually, this ties into the other discussion going on. We can't take the show too seriously because we don't take the acting that seriously. And the dialogue. I totally agree on the taking seriously thing, by crying I meant like shedding some tears, I wasn't crying out loud or anything. I just felt kind of connected to Dale, I saw him more like a kind and sympathic old man who has beaten the odds, but I can see why you saw him nosy, he kinda was  And I too would be super upset if Daryl died, he's the best character atm. | ||
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