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TheAngelofDeath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2033 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-24 20:53:08
July 24 2010 20:20 GMT
#481
People can hate or like movies. I don't know why we all have to flame each other for it. I liked the flick, and I loved Avatar. Sue me. About Inception - It wasn't that thought provoking, but the plot was good, the acting was good, so overall, it was a good movie. I doubt there will ever be a sequel, and if there is, it won't be related to the original. The movie ended in a fashion that people talk about, which is the whole point in an ending. Leave the audience wanting more, even if there will never be more.
"Infestors are the suck" - LzGamer
baller
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
527 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-24 20:31:55
July 24 2010 20:27 GMT
#482
On July 25 2010 04:46 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
shauni kinda reminds me of that guy that watches eel porn because everything else has already been seen/done.

Inception as a typical hollywood film? I fucking wish roflfl

i think shuani hates american hollywhood in general:
On December 20 2009 19:41 Shauni wrote:
Most of us hate American movies, it's just that they keep popping up in cinema, probably because of the multimillion American industry trying to kill off all other cultures. It's not us 'foreigners' fault.
On December 21 2009 00:54 Shauni wrote:
People are sheep and they want to see what's most easily available to them. They are just being brainwashed into believing American cinema is the best while Americans themselves can perhaps be more conscious of their own country.

shauni is just more of a japanese anime fan:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=&t=c&f=-1&u=shauni&gb=date

On July 25 2010 05:08 tonight wrote:
Shauni, do you only watch off the wall indie films or something? I mean, I don't know what you thought was so uncreative and unoriginal about this movie. Maybe you just have to over analyze it to death to where it just can't be in any way plausible as a movie.

he watches anime and non-USA asian movies, see his blog:
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=124480

every1 has different tastes, like shauni may hate inception and like anime more, but u guys might like inception but maybe not like anime as much. u guys just different opinions of what is entertaining.
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-24 20:33:43
July 24 2010 20:31 GMT
#483
It's odd, reading Shauni i guess i understand why some people I know got upset at me for bashing on Avatar so much. I've learned a life lesson today... thank you teamliquid.net. Thank you all!

For the rest of my days i will be a more accepting and unbiased movie goer.







...No, but really, Avatar sucked.
baller
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
527 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-24 20:38:01
July 24 2010 20:36 GMT
#484
On July 25 2010 05:31 DannyJ wrote:
It's odd, reading Shauni i guess i understand why some people I know got upset at me for bashing on Avatar so much. I've learned a life lesson today... thank you teamliquid.net. Thank you all!

its like this, imagine ur with a group of guys who r watching tv and u see some hot girls on the screen. most guys will say wow those girls r hot. but theres always that guy who is like "nah those girls r mad ugly i wouldn't even look at her twice" and every1 just rolls their eyes or gets annoyed because they think that guy really just wants to show he's above every1. yeah, its true girls and movies tastes r subjective, but if u just start talking down to ppl for liking things, they will get annoyed. i am sure shauni would feel the same way if u all said inception was better than whatever anime show he watches.
Laerties
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States361 Posts
July 24 2010 20:41 GMT
#485

It doesn't offer anything new, original or even vaguely artistic to the genre of artificial reality. Christopher Nolan is not a genius director, he makes entertaining films for the masses but that's how far it goes. It's a bit sad how you guys were fooled once with Avatar, and then you buy into the PR the second time with this movie. The characters were flat, story recycled and it followed the simple Hollywood mixture of corny jokes, quick paced dialogue and cool explosions. I don't understand how people can be excited over and over again just because they're supposed to like something.


I think you must be trolling or saying this to be different or something. I'm not sure how you can define the characters as flat, Leonardo dicaprio's character was the most dynamic character I have seen in practically any movie. No he doesn't seem like a "real" person but during the movie he is trying to let go of his wife, slowly loosing his grasp on what is real and what isn't constantly regretting his actions all while attempting to maintain his professionalism and get back home to his children.....soo i'm not sure how you can define that as flat. I don't know what the fuck your talking about when you say the story was recycled which as follows:
+ Show Spoiler +

Inception centers around a team led by Di Caprio that specializes in venturing into the sub conscious of people to decode their innermost secrets. The team gets to work on the most challenging case when a Japanese business tycoon asks it to venture into the sub conscious of another businessman and plant an idea in his mind.

If thats a fucking recycled story than it was disguised so well I (and the rest of the world) couldn't tell.... There aren't 500 comparisons over the internet between this movie and another like there were for avatar. So i'm pretty sure there is no viable argument on that point for you. Also, TBH I enjoy the corny little jokes with a hint of clever thrown in and explosions, I feel that its like adding spice to foods.But thats just me. AAANNNDDD i'm ppretty sure that people dont just get excited about movies because they are "supposed to like them" Snakes on a plane is a perfect example...............
Happiness is when what you think, what you say, and what you do are in harmony.
Laerties
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States361 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-24 20:46:59
July 24 2010 20:46 GMT
#486
On July 25 2010 05:20 TheAngelofDeath wrote:
People can hate or like movies. I don't know why we all have to flame each other for it. I liked the flick, and I loved Avatar. Sue me. It wasn't that thought provoking, but the plot was good, the acting was good, so overall, it was a good movie. I doubt there will ever be a sequel, and if there is, it won't be related to the original. The movie ended in a fashion that people talk about, which is the whole point in an ending. Leave the audience wanting more, even if there will never be more.

(Avatar)
The acting was good!?~?!??!?!?! at what point in the entire drawn out 3 hours did you find at least .01seconds of quality acting? Also, I suppose if your idea of a good plot is a predictable story that has been used in all of the directors previous movies than you are correct when you say the plot was good. I will be contacting my lawyer immediately....
Happiness is when what you think, what you say, and what you do are in harmony.
TheAngelofDeath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2033 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-24 20:53:58
July 24 2010 20:49 GMT
#487
On July 25 2010 05:46 Laerties wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2010 05:20 TheAngelofDeath wrote:
People can hate or like movies. I don't know why we all have to flame each other for it. I liked the flick, and I loved Avatar. Sue me. It wasn't that thought provoking, but the plot was good, the acting was good, so overall, it was a good movie. I doubt there will ever be a sequel, and if there is, it won't be related to the original. The movie ended in a fashion that people talk about, which is the whole point in an ending. Leave the audience wanting more, even if there will never be more.

(Avatar)
The acting was good!?~?!??!?!?! at what point in the entire drawn out 3 hours did you find at least .01seconds of quality acting? Also, I suppose if your idea of a good plot is a predictable story that has been used in all of the directors previous movies than you are correct when you say the plot was good. I will be contacting my lawyer immediately....



My post was about inception, not avatar. I was simply responding to the flaming that people can like and dislike movies. T.T Edited my post to help it make more sense.
"Infestors are the suck" - LzGamer
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
July 24 2010 21:00 GMT
#488
On July 25 2010 05:41 Laerties wrote:
Show nested quote +

It doesn't offer anything new, original or even vaguely artistic to the genre of artificial reality. Christopher Nolan is not a genius director, he makes entertaining films for the masses but that's how far it goes. It's a bit sad how you guys were fooled once with Avatar, and then you buy into the PR the second time with this movie. The characters were flat, story recycled and it followed the simple Hollywood mixture of corny jokes, quick paced dialogue and cool explosions. I don't understand how people can be excited over and over again just because they're supposed to like something.


I think you must be trolling or saying this to be different or something. I'm not sure how you can define the characters as flat, Leonardo dicaprio's character was the most dynamic character I have seen in practically any movie. No he doesn't seem like a "real" person but during the movie he is trying to let go of his wife, slowly loosing his grasp on what is real and what isn't constantly regretting his actions all while attempting to maintain his professionalism and get back home to his children.....soo i'm not sure how you can define that as flat. I don't know what the fuck your talking about when you say the story was recycled which as follows:
+ Show Spoiler +

Inception centers around a team led by Di Caprio that specializes in venturing into the sub conscious of people to decode their innermost secrets. The team gets to work on the most challenging case when a Japanese business tycoon asks it to venture into the sub conscious of another businessman and plant an idea in his mind.

If thats a fucking recycled story than it was disguised so well I (and the rest of the world) couldn't tell.... There aren't 500 comparisons over the internet between this movie and another like there were for avatar. So i'm pretty sure there is no viable argument on that point for you. Also, TBH I enjoy the corny little jokes with a hint of clever thrown in and explosions, I feel that its like adding spice to foods.But thats just me. AAANNNDDD i'm ppretty sure that people dont just get excited about movies because they are "supposed to like them" Snakes on a plane is a perfect example...............


The only thing Cobb does is talk about himself a few times. And do you really get to know ANYONE else than him? We could just rename them to dream agent #1 #2 #3 #4 and it wouldn't make any difference. I'm always a bit perplexed on how they can make a movie over 2 hours, make it feel like half that time and add no real content, just the action, explosions and corny jokes.
In popular movie culture, I think Paprika dealt with it better, even though I wasn't very fond of that movie either. And I think you misinterpreted me. I didn't say it was nowhere near as recycled as Avatar story-wise, but the themes in the movie were. All the suspense triggers, the soundtrack by Hans Zimmer (BAMMMMMMMBAMMMMMMMM), the build-up and breakdown, the quick cutting sequences, the stressing gun fight scenes and so on... It feels too artificial to be able to appreciate it. It's like the elements were just added in to make it successful, to me they don't fit at all with suggestive 'deep brain think' (heh) idea.

On July 25 2010 05:36 baller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2010 05:31 DannyJ wrote:
It's odd, reading Shauni i guess i understand why some people I know got upset at me for bashing on Avatar so much. I've learned a life lesson today... thank you teamliquid.net. Thank you all!

its like this, imagine ur with a group of guys who r watching tv and u see some hot girls on the screen. most guys will say wow those girls r hot. but theres always that guy who is like "nah those girls r mad ugly i wouldn't even look at her twice" and every1 just rolls their eyes or gets annoyed because they think that guy really just wants to show he's above every1. yeah, its true girls and movies tastes r subjective, but if u just start talking down to ppl for liking things, they will get annoyed. i am sure shauni would feel the same way if u all said inception was better than whatever anime show he watches.


Why would it be offensive to people if you said you didn't like shiny things? Just because they do? And yes, I watch anime and thank you for ridiculing me for that. Japan's anime industry is actually even worse than Hollywood when it comes to shitting out meaningless shows just made for simple cash.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
July 24 2010 21:06 GMT
#489
Now your criticizing the music of the movie. What's next? You obviously just have some deep aversion to the movie and people that like it.

Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
July 24 2010 21:09 GMT
#490
Which Avatar are we talking about here? The blue guys or the later?
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baller
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
527 Posts
July 24 2010 21:17 GMT
#491
On July 25 2010 06:00 Shauni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2010 05:36 baller wrote:
its like this, imagine ur with a group of guys who r watching tv and u see some hot girls on the screen. most guys will say wow those girls r hot. but theres always that guy who is like "nah those girls r mad ugly i wouldn't even look at her twice" and every1 just rolls their eyes or gets annoyed because they think that guy really just wants to show he's above every1. yeah, its true girls and movies tastes r subjective, but if u just start talking down to ppl for liking things, they will get annoyed. i am sure shauni would feel the same way if u all said inception was better than whatever anime show he watches.

Why would it be offensive to people if you said you didn't like shiny things? Just because they do? And yes, I watch anime and thank you for ridiculing me for that. Japan's anime industry is actually even worse than Hollywood when it comes to shitting out meaningless shows just made for simple cash.

whoa man i never ridiculed u for liking anime, dont be so defensive. i think anime is great for some people, its certainly colorful and loud and usually very good for kids. i just said u have different tastes than those who like inception. u like anime, they like inception, i think theres no need to start beef about it.

its the way u talk about the movie... u don't just say "i dont like inception bc of X Y Z"... instead u say that ppl only like it bc they r brainwashed and uneducated. ofc this going to offend them, u make it sound like ur some all knowing film god. in reality u just disagree and ur opinion is just as valid as any1 elses who likes avatar or inception.
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
July 24 2010 21:17 GMT
#492
On July 25 2010 06:00 Shauni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2010 05:41 Laerties wrote:

It doesn't offer anything new, original or even vaguely artistic to the genre of artificial reality. Christopher Nolan is not a genius director, he makes entertaining films for the masses but that's how far it goes. It's a bit sad how you guys were fooled once with Avatar, and then you buy into the PR the second time with this movie. The characters were flat, story recycled and it followed the simple Hollywood mixture of corny jokes, quick paced dialogue and cool explosions. I don't understand how people can be excited over and over again just because they're supposed to like something.


I think you must be trolling or saying this to be different or something. I'm not sure how you can define the characters as flat, Leonardo dicaprio's character was the most dynamic character I have seen in practically any movie. No he doesn't seem like a "real" person but during the movie he is trying to let go of his wife, slowly loosing his grasp on what is real and what isn't constantly regretting his actions all while attempting to maintain his professionalism and get back home to his children.....soo i'm not sure how you can define that as flat. I don't know what the fuck your talking about when you say the story was recycled which as follows:
+ Show Spoiler +

Inception centers around a team led by Di Caprio that specializes in venturing into the sub conscious of people to decode their innermost secrets. The team gets to work on the most challenging case when a Japanese business tycoon asks it to venture into the sub conscious of another businessman and plant an idea in his mind.

If thats a fucking recycled story than it was disguised so well I (and the rest of the world) couldn't tell.... There aren't 500 comparisons over the internet between this movie and another like there were for avatar. So i'm pretty sure there is no viable argument on that point for you. Also, TBH I enjoy the corny little jokes with a hint of clever thrown in and explosions, I feel that its like adding spice to foods.But thats just me. AAANNNDDD i'm ppretty sure that people dont just get excited about movies because they are "supposed to like them" Snakes on a plane is a perfect example...............


The only thing Cobb does is talk about himself a few times. And do you really get to know ANYONE else than him? We could just rename them to dream agent #1 #2 #3 #4 and it wouldn't make any difference. I'm always a bit perplexed on how they can make a movie over 2 hours, make it feel like half that time and add no real content, just the action, explosions and corny jokes.
In popular movie culture, I think Paprika dealt with it better, even though I wasn't very fond of that movie either. And I think you misinterpreted me. I didn't say it was nowhere near as recycled as Avatar story-wise, but the themes in the movie were. All the suspense triggers, the soundtrack by Hans Zimmer (BAMMMMMMMBAMMMMMMMM), the build-up and breakdown, the quick cutting sequences, the stressing gun fight scenes and so on... It feels too artificial to be able to appreciate it. It's like the elements were just added in to make it successful, to me they don't fit at all with suggestive 'deep brain think' (heh) idea.

Show nested quote +
On July 25 2010 05:36 baller wrote:
On July 25 2010 05:31 DannyJ wrote:
It's odd, reading Shauni i guess i understand why some people I know got upset at me for bashing on Avatar so much. I've learned a life lesson today... thank you teamliquid.net. Thank you all!

its like this, imagine ur with a group of guys who r watching tv and u see some hot girls on the screen. most guys will say wow those girls r hot. but theres always that guy who is like "nah those girls r mad ugly i wouldn't even look at her twice" and every1 just rolls their eyes or gets annoyed because they think that guy really just wants to show he's above every1. yeah, its true girls and movies tastes r subjective, but if u just start talking down to ppl for liking things, they will get annoyed. i am sure shauni would feel the same way if u all said inception was better than whatever anime show he watches.


Why would it be offensive to people if you said you didn't like shiny things? Just because they do? And yes, I watch anime and thank you for ridiculing me for that. Japan's anime industry is actually even worse than Hollywood when it comes to shitting out meaningless shows just made for simple cash.

I think you missed his point. He wasn't making fun of you for watching anime.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-24 21:22:44
July 24 2010 21:21 GMT
#493
the blue duuuudes

EDIT: i heard the later avatar, also known as the last airbender, is pretty bad. haven't seen it yet heh :o
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
July 24 2010 21:24 GMT
#494
It was horrible. Don't see it.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Pinkie
Profile Joined May 2010
United States145 Posts
July 24 2010 22:04 GMT
#495
Who decided this thread needed to be about liking movies and such. Before, this thread was about different questions and plausible outcomes and ideas concerning the movie.

Now it has gone to a bash one guy who didn't like it because he is trolling the TL general forums.

Why don't we get back on to what this thread was and talk about the movie, not about trolls.

Questions After Second Viewing
+ Show Spoiler +
In the beginning of the movie starts in Media Res and then goes to what we assume is the beginning. Cobb is trying to convince Sato to protect himself from extractors by using Cobb to teach him. We see Mal then and assume she is Cobb's girlfriend. She asks Cobb if she jumps will she die and Cobb says she might not.
This seemingly short exchange foreshadows some deeper elements in the movie (Mal killing herself)

Later Cobb breaks into Sato's safe but is caught by Sato, and Mal

What is bugging me is that when this happens Cobb asks her if she is working for Sato(even though he has to know she is a projection of his imagination) and she seems to be against Cobb but for Sato as she hurts Arthur.

What do you guys think this interaction has to do with the movie? In my first viewing the entire encounter seemed as just a way to introduce Extraction to us and show us the characters of MAl, Arthur, Cobb, and Sato.

I think there is more to it but I can quite figure it out.



The Difference between Stupidity and Genius, is that genius has its limits
Nal_rAwr
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2611 Posts
July 24 2010 22:12 GMT
#496
wait what exactly is your question again?

yeah mal is against cobb because she wanted to live with cobb in limbo but cobb refused to live his life like that, and now mal is a projection in cobb's dreams and she always sabotages the operations
Nony is Bonjwa
sva
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States747 Posts
July 24 2010 22:28 GMT
#497
I loved this movie, it was quite possibly one of the best movies I've ever seen and can't wait to watch it again.
ShAsTa
Profile Joined November 2002
Belgium2841 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-24 23:28:15
July 24 2010 23:28 GMT
#498
Just saw it and I am not impressed. It was a good film but definitely not a masterpiece. I kept waiting for the mindfuck but it never came.
If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.
mikado
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia407 Posts
July 25 2010 00:28 GMT
#499
I don't understand why people would not like this movie, much less hate it. You knew there was going to be far-fetched action scenes and they were very well done. You knew it was going to be about dreams and the question of reality vs fantasy. You knew these were to be expected and they were done superbly.

And for those who are attacking the originality of the whole piece, citing banality and various other pretentious reasons; I don't know what you would find interesting if not the unexplorable and unexplainable boundaries of reality and fantasy, the close nature of both and the lack of logic/rules thereof. You have no way of knowing this is a reality, every sensation is just a sum of action potentials in your neural network system.

I think the movie gets its point across very elegantly with good actors, with a protagonist with deeply seated character dilemmas and for those who just like to see stuff crash and burn (80% of the movie-goers), with great eye-candy. Enjoy.



perditissimus
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
July 25 2010 04:43 GMT
#500
Quick question; why didn't the kick of van hitting railing then falling off platform not wake up the dude in the hotel who was suppose to wake everyone else?
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