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babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
February 25 2016 14:11 GMT
#1521
This game is over, unless Secret fucks up massively
hfglgg
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany5372 Posts
February 25 2016 14:11 GMT
#1522
On February 25 2016 23:00 HammerKick wrote:
Hey guys, because our predictions are already ruined due to MVP's first place in this group, should we bet on Archon being first place in tomorrow's group? : D


that would be a stretch. topping a group you are not even playing in would be a world first i think.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
February 25 2016 14:11 GMT
#1523
On February 25 2016 23:10 Rocket-Bear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2016 23:02 lolfail9001 wrote:
On February 25 2016 22:57 Rocket-Bear wrote:
On February 25 2016 22:55 lolfail9001 wrote:
So, can EE Morph carry this?

well there is more than 1v1 lategame. Beastmaster lategame is really fucking good. So is chrono / lina etc

Pretty even lategame imo. Roar can shut down sven during bkb and if he can't reach anything after that he is kinda useless even with 30k networth because Secret is going to keep at range. But at the same time Lina / Void / Enchantress can do shit too. Morph will be able to 1 shot enchantress with shotgun.

TL;DR the game isn't 1v1 lategame

I mean, out of this whole line-up Secret has, the only heroes that can really carry (not just be strong lategame, quite honestly Secret's line-up is good at that) are morph and invoker and w33 does not look on point.

Also, as someone who did ridiculous amounts of math on shotgun back in the day, Morph does not 1 round enchantress with cloak+dragon lance+aghs no matter how much agility he amasses in 6 slots.

There are still too many factors to say 1 person will be the lategame. The difference between a 1 man chrono and 3 man is huge.

I probably shouldnt be arguing but this shit bothers me so much.

So let's say Venge swaps sven he gets roar dies. Has to buyback, get smoke ganked and 100 sec no buybacks. Well that's just game. Positioning and initiation is huge factors lategame, not just who hits the hardest. Because Sven might not be hitting at all lategame.

Well, true, but i think you see what i mean.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
February 25 2016 14:11 GMT
#1524
It'd be easy to rag on old eleven's FV, but he's just a hair off. "Close is worse than a bad miss".
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 25 2016 14:12 GMT
#1525
10sec bkb sven is how ehome will crush next fight
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Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9568 Posts
February 25 2016 14:12 GMT
#1526
When was the last time Morph had his heyday? TI2? I welcome him back into the TI scene :3
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/4JknvV
Rocket-Bear
Profile Joined July 2014
3070 Posts
February 25 2016 14:13 GMT
#1527
On February 25 2016 23:11 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2016 23:10 Rocket-Bear wrote:
On February 25 2016 23:02 lolfail9001 wrote:
On February 25 2016 22:57 Rocket-Bear wrote:
On February 25 2016 22:55 lolfail9001 wrote:
So, can EE Morph carry this?

well there is more than 1v1 lategame. Beastmaster lategame is really fucking good. So is chrono / lina etc

Pretty even lategame imo. Roar can shut down sven during bkb and if he can't reach anything after that he is kinda useless even with 30k networth because Secret is going to keep at range. But at the same time Lina / Void / Enchantress can do shit too. Morph will be able to 1 shot enchantress with shotgun.

TL;DR the game isn't 1v1 lategame

I mean, out of this whole line-up Secret has, the only heroes that can really carry (not just be strong lategame, quite honestly Secret's line-up is good at that) are morph and invoker and w33 does not look on point.

Also, as someone who did ridiculous amounts of math on shotgun back in the day, Morph does not 1 round enchantress with cloak+dragon lance+aghs no matter how much agility he amasses in 6 slots.

There are still too many factors to say 1 person will be the lategame. The difference between a 1 man chrono and 3 man is huge.

I probably shouldnt be arguing but this shit bothers me so much.

So let's say Venge swaps sven he gets roar dies. Has to buyback, get smoke ganked and 100 sec no buybacks. Well that's just game. Positioning and initiation is huge factors lategame, not just who hits the hardest. Because Sven might not be hitting at all lategame.

Well, true, but i think you see what i mean.

Yeah I get what you mean. I am sort of veniting my caster frustrations on you and I apologize, sorry. Way too often I hear "X is better than Y lategame so they have it late". As if the other 4 in both teams might as well just disconnect or something.
Favorite players: Gh and Zai
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
February 25 2016 14:13 GMT
#1528
On February 25 2016 23:12 Latham wrote:
When was the last time Morph had his heyday? TI2? I welcome him back into the TI scene :3

Ti4 actually and was sometimes popping up after that.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
February 25 2016 14:14 GMT
#1529
On February 25 2016 23:11 hfglgg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2016 23:00 HammerKick wrote:
Hey guys, because our predictions are already ruined due to MVP's first place in this group, should we bet on Archon being first place in tomorrow's group? : D


that would be a stretch. topping a group you are not even playing in would be a world first i think.


I'm actually fucked up in time, don't mind me
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
February 25 2016 14:15 GMT
#1530
PLEASE PIE DO NOT GET AGHS THIS GAME THERE IS AN ENCHANTRESS IN EHOME'S LINEUP
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
February 25 2016 14:16 GMT
#1531
On February 25 2016 23:15 HammerKick wrote:
PLEASE PIE DO NOT GET AGHS THIS GAME THERE IS AN ENCHANTRESS IN EHOME'S LINEUP

Uh... i just realized.

That would be the pimp play tho, worthy of LanM.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Rocket-Bear
Profile Joined July 2014
3070 Posts
February 25 2016 14:16 GMT
#1532
On February 25 2016 23:15 HammerKick wrote:
PLEASE PIE DO NOT GET AGHS THIS GAME THERE IS AN ENCHANTRESS IN EHOME'S LINEUP

usually start with the orb if aghs so might be heavens halbeard
Favorite players: Gh and Zai
Rocket-Bear
Profile Joined July 2014
3070 Posts
February 25 2016 14:18 GMT
#1533
Secret is outplaying them atm, they get to do whatever they want without getting punished
Favorite players: Gh and Zai
DV G
Profile Joined September 2012
Argentina2339 Posts
February 25 2016 14:19 GMT
#1534
On February 25 2016 23:13 Rocket-Bear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2016 23:11 lolfail9001 wrote:
On February 25 2016 23:10 Rocket-Bear wrote:
On February 25 2016 23:02 lolfail9001 wrote:
On February 25 2016 22:57 Rocket-Bear wrote:
On February 25 2016 22:55 lolfail9001 wrote:
So, can EE Morph carry this?

well there is more than 1v1 lategame. Beastmaster lategame is really fucking good. So is chrono / lina etc

Pretty even lategame imo. Roar can shut down sven during bkb and if he can't reach anything after that he is kinda useless even with 30k networth because Secret is going to keep at range. But at the same time Lina / Void / Enchantress can do shit too. Morph will be able to 1 shot enchantress with shotgun.

TL;DR the game isn't 1v1 lategame

I mean, out of this whole line-up Secret has, the only heroes that can really carry (not just be strong lategame, quite honestly Secret's line-up is good at that) are morph and invoker and w33 does not look on point.

Also, as someone who did ridiculous amounts of math on shotgun back in the day, Morph does not 1 round enchantress with cloak+dragon lance+aghs no matter how much agility he amasses in 6 slots.

There are still too many factors to say 1 person will be the lategame. The difference between a 1 man chrono and 3 man is huge.

I probably shouldnt be arguing but this shit bothers me so much.

So let's say Venge swaps sven he gets roar dies. Has to buyback, get smoke ganked and 100 sec no buybacks. Well that's just game. Positioning and initiation is huge factors lategame, not just who hits the hardest. Because Sven might not be hitting at all lategame.

Well, true, but i think you see what i mean.

Yeah I get what you mean. I am sort of veniting my caster frustrations on you and I apologize, sorry. Way too often I hear "X is better than Y lategame so they have it late". As if the other 4 in both teams might as well just disconnect or something.


Come on chopper, you know there's a 1v1 rosh battle vs the 6-slotted carries to know who wins after 60m
Go pro or die trying
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
February 25 2016 14:22 GMT
#1535
Though now that i think about it, Morph got to be second most abusive hero for venge+chen+invoker+bm combo.

That's what? 150 AS, 110 damage and 96% base damage bonus total?

Eeek.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
BlazingGlory
Profile Joined February 2010
Bulgaria855 Posts
February 25 2016 14:23 GMT
#1536
Pie carried em hard this game. Clutch kills, saves, swaps, wards.
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
February 25 2016 14:25 GMT
#1537
The rat dota is real
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
Rocket-Bear
Profile Joined July 2014
3070 Posts
February 25 2016 14:25 GMT
#1538
Ice wall destroyed sven holy shit he couldnt get to anyone
Favorite players: Gh and Zai
traumatism
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore3728 Posts
February 25 2016 14:26 GMT
#1539
Classic
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32746 Posts
February 25 2016 14:26 GMT
#1540
EE kills all buildings.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
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